Mosins and “gracefully aging” THR members

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So how many of the over 45 THR members still have some sort of Mosin Nagant M-91 based rifle propped up in the back of a closet or safe or out in the truck that they bought in the twentieth century?

Before the wall came down or China Thawed I got an M-1944, apparently a bring back. Back in high school our Librarian ( a grand olde Southern Lady) had loaned me her son’s 1967 bring back M1944 on condition that I clean it.

It road home with me on the bus, and back to school the same way uncased!

It got shot with US commercial ammo a few rounds, cleaned and oiled, and taken to JROTC class.

I wanted one. They were few and hard to find. Then there was one on a gunshow table at St.Augustine Florida… until it found itself in my car headed back towards The Swamp.

Ammo was scarce. I found a few rounds of US commercial at a collectors table and Paid way to much for it.

In about six months the Chinese guns came in at less than half the price and those string wrapped bags of 15 rounds of ammo came in for about what I paid for two rounds of ammo.

I meant to get a like new Polish model for 2/3 what I paid for my battlefield pick up. but never did. I wanted an arsenal refinished M91/30 for half what I paid for my bring back’44, but never got around to it. I picked up and fondled any number of Finn modified and reissued Mosins and appreciated their potential at a price about what I had paid for my Carbine-ized 91 but there was always something else shinier at another table. My truck insisted it needed even a counter bored M1938 behind the seat, but then his unexpected and untimely death meant no gun related purchases for a good bit.

So the -1944 is all I have of the Great Mosin Migration.

So how many guys still have Mosins from when they were cheap?

No Doubt Gunny has enough Mosins to make every 59 year old Ukrainian not allowed to leave the country a sniper, but I meant to ask the rest of you.

Of course Gunny is always welcome to play!

Having problems posting pictures via the phone…. but you all know what a M1944 looks like.

-kBob
 
I’m about 10 years short of 45 but I have one and really enjoy it. I experienced the tail end of them when you could buy them everywhere for 89.99 and tins of ammo for $69.99. Regrettably I was told by all the old guys at the time that they were worthless jam-o-matics that couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn so I didn’t get in on the good times. I found this very nice condition 1940 Tula on armslist an hour away about 5 years ago for $120. The seller hadn’t gotten the memo that they had become valuable. I was quite pleased to find it to be a very accurate and effective rifle. I especially like shooting it on a winter day as I’ve found it to be one of the easiest rifles to operate with thick gloves on.

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So how many of the over 45 THR members still have some sort of Mosin Nagant M-91 based rifle propped up in the back of a closet or safe or out in the truck that they bought in the twentieth century?

Before the wall came down or China Thawed I got an M-1944, apparently a bring back. Back in high school our Librarian ( a grand olde Southern Lady) had loaned me her son’s 1967 bring back M1944 on condition that I clean it.

It road home with me on the bus, and back to school the same way uncased!

It got shot with US commercial ammo a few rounds, cleaned and oiled, and taken to JROTC class.

I wanted one. They were few and hard to find. Then there was one on a gunshow table at St.Augustine Florida… until it found itself in my car headed back towards The Swamp.

Ammo was scarce. I found a few rounds of US commercial at a collectors table and Paid way to much for it.

In about six months the Chinese guns came in at less than half the price and those string wrapped bags of 15 rounds of ammo came in for about what I paid for two rounds of ammo.

I meant to get a like new Polish model for 2/3 what I paid for my battlefield pick up. but never did. I wanted an arsenal refinished M91/30 for half what I paid for my bring back’44, but never got around to it. I picked up and fondled any number of Finn modified and reissued Mosins and appreciated their potential at a price about what I had paid for my Carbine-ized 91 but there was always something else shinier at another table. My truck insisted it needed even a counter bored M1938 behind the seat, but then his unexpected and untimely death meant no gun related purchases for a good bit.

So the -1944 is all I have of the Great Mosin Migration.

So how many guys still have Mosins from when they were cheap?

No Doubt Gunny has enough Mosins to make every 59 year old Ukrainian not allowed to leave the country a sniper, but I meant to ask the rest of you.

Of course Gunny is always welcome to play!

Having problems posting pictures via the phone…. but you all know what a M1944 looks like.

-kBob
My sporterized, 1939 Tula 91/30 has markings that indicate it was rearsenaled and given to the East Germans. Not sure how it ended up in the states. Anyway, it's my primary hunting rifle right now.
 
I've aged to 74 but "gracefully"? Snicker.

Bought a Navy Arms N.J. import Chinese Type 53 (1953) back in 1992 from a private owner for $35. The wood was terrible. The handguard, barrel bands, forearm from just in front of the rear barrel band, and bayonet were missing. The action and barrel were sound, fired casings brass or steel showed no expansion, so I figured it would make a foul weather hunting gun with a little bubba gunsmithing on the stock . I ground off the pointy mounting ears on the barrel for the bayonet and rezeroed the sights. This back when PPU 180gr softnose 7.62x54R was imported under the Hansen brandname.

At Widener's in 2008 I bought a 91/30 built on a 1926 "hex" receiver for $129. I started using it in vintage military to save wear on my M1 Carbine which I had been using in both vintage and modern matches. I bought at least 4 or 5 spam cans of Bulgarian 183gr yellow tip (heavy ball) ammo at $45 for a 300 round tin in 2008-2009. Slowly built up a wooden crate of yellow tip.

Finally located a complete Russian M1944 stock set and mated it to the Type 53 barreled action. I call it my Frankenmosin. Quite frankly it feels as heavy as the 91/30. I have shot it in the modern (post-1947) military matches.
 
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I think I paid $75 for an M44 years ago. Not sure if I still have it. I'd like to trade it off for a modern rifle.
 
Mosin is so quirky, and double so in the U.S.. For example, the secondary spring in the magazine is essential for the smooth action. The rifle still feeds with a weak secondary spring, but requires manhandling. Just to make it worse, it's dovetailed (primary is on a screw), and it is essentially impossible to find replacements. I was thinking about running a hobby business where I'd press tired springs from floorplates, anneal, bend, and re-temper them. The result is mind-boggling to anyone who's used to rough and tired Mosins found at American gun show tables. But alas it's not commercially viable.
 
I've got a couple....91/30 PU Sniper and a M38 carbine

The prices on these were thru the roof at the OVMS Show of Shows last month

Nice ones north of $600

Sniper......2k

I paid 145 for the 38 in 1997, and ot is a Izhvik or however its spelled
The sniper, the real deal, a 42 Tula, I paid 500 for with all the goods around the same time
 
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ark! $400? Maybe I should be cleaning that puppy up!
Still… do you like if? Does if fill a perceived need?

It was pretty cherry as purchased, except the original buttplate had been replaced with a rubber recoil pad. I later bought a replacement steel buttplate from Apex that fit perfectly. The bore is perfect and shoots great.

I'm not sure whether most would see a milsurp rifle collection as a 'need', but it filled my gap for a Mosin representative. Still wouldn't mind adding a good Finnish Mosin at some point, but those have really gotten pricey.

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I guess I’m an outlier. I’ve never really been fired up about Russian arms, so I’ve never owned a Mosin-Nagant or an AK. I had a Chinese SKS years ago but sold it when it didn’t do much for me. Maybe it was growing up close enough to an AFB where we had air raid siren tests at noon every day and did the “duck and cover” bomb drills monthly throughout grade school that soured me on most anything about Russian arms.

I do have a knock around 20 ga Baikal O/U and I like the 7.62x39 round (I have an AR and a Mini 30) so I’m not a total Russo-phobe, but for whatever reasons the Mosin just never tripped my switch. :(

Stay safe.
 
I have a carbine MN. It was given to me with a plaque on the stock as a PCS gift when I was in the army. Never shot it.
 
Thirty plus years past your starting point and I'm that one in a million that never caught the Mosin bug. I guess having hand me down Krag, Arisaka, and Springfields kept me busy. Sure sold a ton of them where I worked. Just never caught it myself.
 
I only had one Mosin. It was a 1943 make from Izhevsk plant. Still caked in Cosmoline. I cleaned it up, fired some ammo through it, fixed a few rough parts on it, did a trigger job, and sold it for double what I paid for it. I had plans to put a Monte Carlo or Archangel stock on it, scope it, bend the bolt handle and turn it into a beater hunting rifle. But I got side tracked by different projects.
 
Still wouldn't mind adding a good Finnish Mosin at some point, but those have really gotten pricey.

I would really like to add a Finnish Mosin, a dragoon, and an M38 to the collection, but sadly at todays prices its becoming less and less likely I'll run across any of them for a price I'm willing to pay. I finally started to appreciate milsurps about 10 years too late.
 
I couldn’t buy one in the 20th century as I turned 18 very early in the 21st. I bought one when they were $99 in 2006 or so. Sold it when they were $129 in 2009 or so.

Sometimes I lust for one but I think I would only buy one that had been recently rebarreled with a premium barrel. Haha so probably not ever again.
 
I feel bad for the younger generation. I paid $110 for my M44 and $89 for my 91/30. You'd go to gun shows and there were crates of them sitting around. 7.62x54 was very cheap and plentiful as well. Nowadays you see them sparingly and they've definitely jumped up in price. Same with the ammo prices. Glad I have several spam cans of ammo sitting in the basement.
 
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