Mpro7 gun cleaner

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MikeJ

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I bought some Mpro7 to try out as I have read that it is pretty good stuff. I have always used Hoppe's in the past and have been happy with it but since my wife can't stand the smell of Hoppe's I thought I would give this a try. It appears to have worked well on my pistols and revolver yet my patches didn't come out as dirty as when I used Hoppe's. Granted, I only shot 100 rounds each of Winchester jacketed ammo through three different guns so they weren't terribly dirty to begin with. What are all of your opinions on Mpro7? As I said, each gun looked clean when I finished and they were a Sig 229, Beretta Centurion and a S&W 65.
 
I use this stuff. I think it works very well! After cleaning with Mpro7, then I clean it again with Hoppes 9 & BF CLP; I cannot get the patch dirty with Hoppes 9 or BF CLP! It cleans the barrel against lead residue very well too.
 
gudel said:
...After cleaning with Mpro7, then I clean it again with Hoppes 9 & BF CLP; I cannot get the patch dirty with Hoppes 9 or BF CLP!
Good stuff. I use the MPro7 Gun immediately after cleaning. I also use compressed air to blow out the MPro7 and to distribute the gun lube.

I think Hoppe's Elite is the same as MPro7.
 
5Wire said:
Good stuff. I use the MPro7 Gun immediately after cleaning. I also use compressed air to blow out the MPro7 and to distribute the gun lube.

I think Hoppe's Elite is the same as MPro7.

I have the gun cleaner one, is the Elite a cleaner or the clp model? For lube I still use BF CLP. I picked it up for $25, in a black spray bottle.
 
gudel said:
I have the gun cleaner one, is the Elite a cleaner or the clp model? For lube I still use BF CLP. I picked it up for $25, in a black spray bottle.
Elite is the cleaner. I use CLP in bores, and other place that lead up.

I hope the $25 got you a BIG bottle of CLP. ;)
 
Those big bottles should last a while. Too bad your wife doesn't like the smell of Hoppe's. Although, I liked the smell of the older formula better, so I can see how it could happen.

I'm also a big fan of Elmer's Slide-All, a dry Teflon propelled by aerosol. $5 or so at a good hardware store. It's wonderful for keeping crud from collecting around cylinder, bore, ejector stars on revolvers, and the breech, gas piston, and gas cylinder of my H&K P7s.

I was told that under high heat conditions, such as produced around the chamber of a fired gun, that the teflon actually bonds to the surface of nearby metal. Eventually there is a teflon to teflon surface instead of metal to metal which is about as lubricated as it comes.
 
Mpro 7 was all I used to clean my guns until I called a major gun manufacturer and was told not to use it but instead something like Shooters Choice, hoppes or CLP. They said Mpro 7 removes all the lube from the internals of the gun which then leaves them unprotected and unlubed. He said Shooters Choice does not remove all the lube. He was concerned about it getting inside where you don't take it apart regularly.

I have since switched to Shooters Choice and CLP.

LBTRS
 
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LBTRS said:
Mpro 7 was all I used to clean my guns until I called a major gun manufacture and was told not to use it but instead something like Shooters Choice, hoppes or CLP. They said Mpro 7 removes all the lube from the internals of the gun which then leaves them unprotected and unlubed. He said Shooters Choice does not remove all the lube. He was concerned about it getting inside where you don't take it apart regularly.

I have since switched to Shooters Choice and CLP.

LBTRS

What was described to you is exactly why I use MPro7. It gets the metal 'molecularly clean' is the claim. MPro7 also specifically states that because the metal is so thoroughly cleaned, it must be lubricated afterwards. MPro7 recommends their own Gun Lubricant product. I'll use that or CLP blown thin over all metal surfaces with compressed air (except for dry teflon spots as posted above). All the internal parts get relubricated and there are no problems I've encountered.

Another major firearm manufacturer Smith & Wesson markets cleaning products that look suspiciously MPro7ish to me, although I have no experience with the S&W cleaners and lubricants.

Shooter's Choice and CLP is a good combination, too. I haven't tried Militec but I suspect the teflon bonding may happen there, too. CorrosionX is something elso that seems to work pretty well, especially for longer term storage.
 
LBTRS said:
Mpro 7 was all I used to clean my guns until I called a major gun manufacture and was told not to use it
LBTRS

HK uses Mpro7, I use it on my HK's too. No rust. well, I don't expect any rust on all of my HK's. I live near the beach, humidity goes to 90% here. No rusts in all my guns by using Mpro7. Sounds like hokey pokey to me.

Too bad your wife doesn't like the smell of Hoppe's.

Well, no wife here, which is why I can get any guns when I want :D I think it was MikeJ's wife that couldn't stand. It smells different now than the older ones. I do found another use for it, Hoppe's 9 works great for beach tar on the feet.
 
I would like to know which 'major gun manufacturer' recommended not using M-Pro 7 because it got weapons 'too clean'???
 
gudel said:
...Well, no wife here, which is why I can get any guns when I want :D I think it was MikeJ's wife that couldn't stand. It smells different now than the older ones. I do found another use for it, Hoppe's 9 works great for beach tar on the feet.
Oops. Misdirected. Sorry.
 
Another MPro-7 fan and user here. I had seen it in the Dillon catalogue, but never thought much of it other than just another product to separate you from your money. Then I decided to give it a try after listening to 'Gun Talk'.

I had just bought a BHP that hadn't been cleaned until I got it. I originally cleaned it with Hoppes and Break-Free and thought I had gotten it squeeky clean.

I cleaned it again using MPro-7 and couldn't believe all the crud that was coming loose from a supposedly GI inspection-ready clean pistol. Needless to say I don't clean with anything else unless I need a copper remover.

MPro-7 does strip all the lube and rust protection from the metal so you have to recoat all the parts after cleaning, but I think it's worth the extra effort.

I have tried MPro-7 CLP and I'm not real impressed with it. Break-Free CLP is still king of the mountain.
 
Onmilo said:
I would like to know which 'major gun manufacturer' recommended not using M-Pro 7 because it got weapons 'too clean'???

It doesn't take a major gun manufacturer to know that it gets the parts "too clean" and requires re-application of all lube. Mpro 7 says this themselves as has been noted above. The problem lies in the fact that this gets into the internals of the firearm and removes all lube and most people don't detail strip their weapons each time to replace the lube that was removed.

I was having a problem with the disconnector on a 1911 so I called this major manufacturer of custom 1911 handguns (spoke to the guy who's name is on the side of the gun) and he asked what I used to clean it, I told him Mpro 7. He asked if I had detail stripped the gun and relubed the disconnector and sear recently? I said "NO" and he said "that's your problem". He said that if you use Mpro 7 the gun should be detail stripped and relubed each time you clean it as Mpro 7 removes all the lube. He said he recommends Shooters Choice and CLP to prevent this.

Sure enough, I detail stripped the weapon, lubed the disconnector and sear and have not had a problem since. I now use Shooters Choice and CLP and have not experienced the problem again in between times when I detail strip the gun.

LBTRS
 
Onmilo said:
I would like to know which 'major gun manufacturer' recommended not using M-Pro 7 because it got weapons 'too clean'???

Looking at his signature, I think the major gun manufacturer which said that was Les Baer :)
It's a 1911 thing.

Another major firearm manufacturer Smith & Wesson markets cleaning products that look suspiciously MPro7ish to me,

I think you're right about S&W uses this stuff too. If it works for these people, then it's good enough for me.
 
gudel said:
HK uses Mpro7, I use it on my HK's too. No rust. well, I don't expect any rust on all of my HK's. I live near the beach, humidity goes to 90% here. No rusts in all my guns by using Mpro7. Sounds like hokey pokey to me.

The only thing "hokey pokey" around here is your reading comprehension skills. :) Nothing was said about "rust", only that Mpro 7 removes all traces of lube from the weapon and requires it to be re-lubed completely (which most people don't do during a normal cleaning since the gun isn't completely disassembled).

I own dozens of handguns and I rarely completely disassemble my Glocks, Sig's, HK's, etc. to re-lube all the areas where the Mpro7 was able to get too. As I stated, this caused a problem on a firearm of mine and was told the solution was to completely re-lube those parts each time or switch cleaning products.

It's a great product, no one is taking that away from it, however. I would be willing to bet there are a lot of guns out there that have the internals lubed only with Mpro 7 (which is the opposite of a lube).

LBTRS
 
So after Mpro7?

Is it ok to blast a little CLP into the insides of a semi or a revolver to "make things right" again after some mpro7 leaks in, or is this looking for more trouble? Over clean or over oil? Life is full of wonderful choices...
 
"MPro-7 does strip all the lube and rust protection from the metal"

And your hands. Get out the hand lotion. Actually, being a super soap it works pretty well as a hand cleaner after doing car work. A little pricey, but I was out of that orange stuff.

John
 
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