Muzzle Loading Shotgun Primer-refresher Thread

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Just got one, after years of hankering.

Will post some images later.

I was thinking it'd be nice to have a refresher Thread, or a Primer, revisited, for Muzzle Loading Shotgun Care-&-Use details, since me for one, and other boys and girls also, may be a little new or unsure as to the particulars of right Loading/Charging, Powder rules of Thumb, Wad election, and so on.

Thus maybe I move forward from the so-far back-of-the-Class on this.


2F Powder?


Projectile weight ( Wads included) should be roughly the same as the weight of Powder? Or?


Weight of Powder, for a given Bore/Gauge, decided...how?
 
Have not had a chance to ( or to remember to ) get any decent images yet... had many rainy days lately, plus harried with work-things...weather is getting nicer ( fingers crossed ) so maybe tomorrow, may have some decent outdoor Sunshine..! Yippeee!


I still need to see if it is Loaded or not...Lol...but I won't use a Cigarette Lighter.


Anyway...need to be ordering Wads I s'pose...and, head on out to the Range and try it out.
 
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mykeal, Nice shotguns........Didn't even know that Pietta made a shotgun. But, there is a lot I don't know. Here is my CVA 12 and I love it. The tang, hammers and locks are highly polished. At the last Rondy I loved shooting it at birds. So I have a local gun maker making one. Single barrel 12 with both flint and percussion. Will post pic's when it comes home.


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The only one still on the new market is a Pedersoli; it's an excellent gun, made in both 10 and 12 ga I believe, but very expensive. I built the CVA from a kit in 1983; I used it last season on some sporting clays. It's cylinder choked so it's great for that sport. The other two I picked up at local auctions, both in the last 5 years. The Pedersoli is the oldest, made in 1976, very nice fit and finish. The Navy Arms/Pietta is the newest, made in 1984, not quite the same fineness as the Pedersoli but still a fine gun. I've misplaced the bore dimensions, but I recall the Pedersoli is the closest to 12 ga with improved cylinder barrels; the CVA is a bit oversize for a real 12 ga cylinder bore and the Navy Arms/Pietta is halfway between a 12 and 14 ga, kind of. Have not patterned them yet, maybe this year.
 
Well dang! Now you've done it. My old CVA SxS has been sleeping peacefully in the safe for years. Now I've got to get it out and see if it's worth refinishing the stock and maybe actually use the thing. I think I used one of the loading procedures and loads from the first or second edition of the Sam Fadala blackpowder handbook. I'll have to look them up.

I used this shotgun on my last two hunts (haven't hunted in years) for rabbits and birds. Kicked out 3 bunnies and 4 birds, made 7 shots and took them all home. And I'm not a great shotgunner. These are underrated tools. Hmmm! Might be time to work up a load for the trap and skeet ranges. Another project for spring and summer

Jeff
 
Jeff, I think you'll be disappointed with trap and skeet results - chokes are too open to do very well at those more disciplined sports. However, it's a real hoot to be shooting an Italian smokepole next to some guy in spandex with a $5000 Italian pretty boy. Wear your leathers and watch their faces.
 
Mykeal, you're right. The humor factor would be high! ;) Actually, I've got a buddy with the same model who would enjoy the chance to give it a try. (We're both relaxed about our shhoting, so high scores don't matter.) I'm a fair trap shooter but stink on ice at skeet. That cylider choke might improve matters, LOL.

Jeff
 
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Modern plastic shotshell wads can help to improve patterns, and some folks make their own paper shot cups and experiment by cutting slits of varying lengths in them to help control the shot spread.
Loading extra shot (& powder) and mixing up the shot sizes within a load can also help to improve patterns at longer range. The theory is that the larger the shot load and the sizes of shot that can be mixed into it the better. :)

http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=314416

http://www.thehighroad.org/showpost.php?p=4524868&postcount=13
 
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Newly aquired toy!

Hi Oyeboten!! :) :)

I recall you telling me you were able to aquire a 12ga. & I was just wondering how you are making out on your research for the powder charges etc. for it. I wish I was able to contribute something helpful to you as you certainly helped me. Have fun with it & enjoy it. Catch you later.

Digger.
 
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Hi Digger Odell,


Thanks for asking!


The Old Shotgun is sitting a foot behind my Computer as I type.


I've done a little reading-studying, as per some of the links others have posted, for understanding Loads and projectile weights and so on.

I've been slammed with work and family obliges to where I have no free time lately unless it ia like five minutes here or there.

Nice an Sunny today...maybe I can make a couple images to post to show off the old Thing...


There's probably enough people now who have Muzzle Loading Shotguns, for us to start the "Official HR ML SG Social Club"


All five of us!


Lol...


Edit - Just tried some images...so bright out, could not see the Camera back-screen for focusing even with a cupped-hand...images came out all washed out AND out of focus...

Oye...
 
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Some pics -


Shotgun does not apear to show any Maker's name...saying only "Laminated Steel Barrels" on the rear Barrel mid-top area.






Checking if fairly crisp...has lots of very fine engraving which includes small Animals, but, I was not able to capture these details in the images.





The only Proof or other Marks I find, are on the rear underside of the Barrels/Breech.


 
revolver with two barrels

arcticap, One of the guys in the club told me about those. I got some for my Tingle pistol. The 28 gauge barrel, going to try to shoot birds at the club. I don't know if it will work. But some of the guys said it will. Let you all know what happens.
Oyeboten nice looking old shotgun. I have the same problem with my $ 400 Kodak. I use to set on stupid and everything was clear and crisp. But, not anymore. I do find that it works better in the dark with flash only.
 
Thanks CAMPBELL49T,



My prior Camera was a bought-new 1998 Soni 'Mavica' which was easy to focus, easy to compose with, fun, easy, reliable, did great fine super-up-close detail, I used the heck out of it for 11 years. I have Birds, and the little Harpies knocked it off a high shelf onto the Concrete...and, busted it wide open...so...

Got a newer used one, and, it is not the Camera the 'old' one was...

I am thinking this is a Belgian Shotgun maybe? Made for the English-speaking Markets..?
 
The stake mark makes it look like the breech plug on the lower barrel has started to back out. Does everything else line up?
 
Hi Sport45,


Everything seems perfectly tight and lined up Breech wise...other than, yes, I agree, the strike-mark on the one side is slightly off 'tween the two parts.


I'd like to find a long-snouted Otoscope or other for seeing how the Breech-end looks inside...

I wonder if there are really tiny Digital Cameras or Video-type Cameras on-a-cord one could use?


Exterior wise, everything looks very nice...no hints of any rust ever...everything looks goot to me.

Planning on Shooting it of course...

But I have to say, I do feel a little nervous!!!


Lol
 
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