My 870 Express 28-gauge shoots very high, is there an attachment for the vented rib?

[ACES&8S]

First, I am not a shotgun guy except for small game, so excuse my ignorance.
I thought there was an attachment for the ---vented rib--- on shotguns for sight adjustment.
I have looked all over but I am not a very good searcher and found nothing resembling my memory.
Is there such a thing or not????
I have both full and modified chokes for it, and it patterns perfect but extremely high like 10" high center mass at 25 yards.
Makes it hard to squirrel hunt with it, but it is perfect for those ferocious critters, for me anyhow, except for having to
remember how to aim it.
My notes say both barrels are 26" each, and both have [vented ribs], if that is the correct term.

 

[WisBorn]

Does the barrel have a double beads (like front and rear sights)?

I like them, as they help me get my cheek down on the stock of the gun.

 

[cfullgraf]

Generally, stock fit is important for getting a shotgun to shoot where it is supposed to.

To do it properly is above my pay grade. It is not like the clicks on a rifle scope will give a finite move of bullet impact but you can be a little off with the fit and still hit the target. But, you can get too far off with the fit and you will miss with the hit.

If you want to get better with your gun at least consult with someone who fits shotguns to the shooter and decide if you want to proceed.

P.S. I grew up shooting a 28 ga side by side and have been fond of the gauge ever since. I won my first class match at skeet with a 28 ga tubed Browning Citori.

 

[jmr40]

I think you really just need a little more trigger time with the gun in order to learn how to mount the gun in order for the shot to hit where you're aiming. Most all shotguns are designed to hit a little high in the 1st place. Normally shotguns are used to hit either a clay target at the range or flushing birds. All of those objects are moving away and UP when you take the shot. Having the pattern hit a little high helps. But when shooting stationary targets it can be a little bit of a handicap.

You might try one of the strap on cheek risers made for rifles. They are designed to raise the head and make it easier to see through scopes mounted very high. But on a shotgun it will raise your head which will change POI of the shot.

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[243winxb]

the strap on cheek risers

Will make the pattern hit even higher.

The comb needs shaved or get you head in the correct position on tne stock.

Old trap shooters (me) used a Morgan pad to adjust where the shot pattern hits. But only works if gun is mounted, on your shoulder, ready to fire.

The curved pad cant be used on a field gun, the flat pad can.

Point is, how you bring the butt stock to your shoulder, determint where the shot pattern strikes.

Bring shotgun to face, not face to shotgun. A shotgun should be brought up to the cheek with the head in an upright position, then straight back to the shoulder pocket.

The choke tubs may have been installed crooked, At time of manufacture? Have someone else shoot, patern the shotgun.

 

[Armored farmer]

It is not impossible for a barrel to be bent.

 

[PapaG]

Put on one of those stinking, obnoxious magnetic glow worm front sights. Get one that is taller than your existing front bead. I've seen many a fair trap shooter have his scores plummet after adding one because they started shooting under the bird. Higher front sight, lower poi.

 

[RKRCPA]

Before you do anything else you should verify that your eye is properly aligned with the rib. If your eye is too high you will shoot high.

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[.45Coltguy]

That Yorkshire Gent was a good read. Thanks for posting that.

 

[Mark_Mark]

Shotgun fit is so important!

I had my Beretta fitted and it was not right. I shoot very low ready (below my elbow) hunting style, and the smith put a sticky butt pad on it. It kept getting caught on my clothing. I put the factory Beretta pad back on.

Anyways the Beretta I shoot best is the A400 Excel, it has adjustable shims that lets me adjusts any way I want.

 

[ACES&8S]

Does the barrel have a double beads (like front and rear sights)?

I like them, as they help me get my cheek down on the stock of the gun.

Single bead.

 

[ACES&8S]

It is not impossible for a barrel to be bent.

Found 2 in my time, one was a K98 Mauser, probably war damage.
The other was a savage in 6.5 cred, my son inherited it, and it wasn't obvious till we put a scope on it.
But this one shoot high with both the modified and full choke.

 

[ACES&8S]

Not sure about fit for the shotgun.
Both barrels, modified and full choke shoot high.
Three of us have shot it, standing and even off bench they all shoot high, almost 2 boxes of shells.
I tried it myself for the best pattern and used them for the shooting. Wondering if perhaps I should
go back to other shells and see if it is the shell I am using.
God, forbid I have to get one of those -glow worms- for the front, but I will if I have to.

 

[ACES&8S]

Oh NO.
I just went to the site Yorkshire Gent info and that may well be the problem, will try it tomorrow and see the drop and such.
Thanks for the info.

 

[ACES&8S]

Before you do anything else you should verify that your eye is properly aligned with the rib. If your eye is too high you will shoot high.

Thanks for the info, it could easily be the problem.
Just tried it, without shooting. I don't think that is the problem, it still may be the ammo, or worse.

 

[kudu]

God, forbid I have to get one of those -glow worms- for the front, but I will if I have to.

Even a Bradley white front bead will slightly raise the height as opposed to the brass bead. Most shotguns shoot a slightly high pattern. For it to shoot flat like you want it you will have to push your cheek into the stock so you barely can see the top of the bead when looking down the vent rib.

 

[Armored farmer]

Found 2 in my time, one was a K98 Mauser, probably war damage.
The other was a savage in 6.5 cred, my son inherited it, and it wasn't obvious till we put a scope on it.
But this one shoot high with both the modified and full choke.

I also have found two.
A 1100 12ga skeet shot wide left.
A 870 12ga supermag that was thrown to riverbank from considerable distance. It shot high and right after that. I fixed it with a new barrel.

 

[GE-Mini-Gun]

A quick and easy way to check if you’re “lining” up correctly or at least in the ballpark. This is going to be the most unnerving thing you’ve probably done, but it’s quick and will get you “better” centered, and you’ll need a trusted friend that knows a little about guns. With gun unloaded and no ammo ANYWHERE near you, mount the gun as if you were shooting at a bird…find a spot on the wall to aim for about shoulder level. This is a quick thing and not a “planned” move, think trying to hit a dove in flight. Once you’ve mounted at the spot, have your friend look down the top of the barrel…the bead should be in the center of your eye, if you had two beads (mid and front) you would see a snowman and your buddy would see the front bead centered. I’ve done this more times than I can count, it’s still an unnatural feeling. Also, the only shotguns that shoot high are trap guns as the bird is rising, field, sporting and skeet guns shoot flat, unless they have been modified by the owner.

 

[Armored farmer]

^^^^^
This.
Also mount your gun naturally with your eyes closed, then open them and see where the beads line up.
That's also pretty good practice for a wingshooter to just repeatedly mount your gun (with your hunting coat on).
Muscle memory...and all that ya know.

 

[ACES&8S]

^^^^^
This.
Also mount your gun naturally with your eyes closed, then open them and see where the beads line up.
That's also pretty good practice for a wingshooter to just repeatedly mount your gun (with your hunting coat on).
Muscle memory...and all that ya know.

Oh yea, we must be in our hunting gear before we practice shooting.
That is as important as can be with bow shooting and rifle shooting, BUT I never considered shotguns. They have always been a
kind of throw it up there, follow and shoot. I was very good with grouse many years ago when there were so many here, but
when the numbers dropped off, I have left them alone even here on our property.
I honestly never had any trouble with slug guns or turkey guns or wing shooting, even squirrel shotguns until now. I never knew
there was so much involved with shotguns except what I have seen on tv with skeet, clays or whatever.
I have an old Winchester Ranger which I had killed lots of deer with and had the slug barrel back bored and a super choke put in it.
It is the perfect turkey gun because it has adjustable sights and can go to center pattern easily. It also has a standard barrel which
has several chokes and no problem with almost any shell I tried. Just a Cheap old Ranger. I guess it spoiled me, along with the Ithaca
Deerslayer I used for grouse.
I guess I always thought, One Size Fits All.