CoastieShep
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To me, too much thinking takes away the fun of hitting the target. I like having my gun zeroed in at xxx yds, and using Kentucky windage and elevation to hit the target farther out at xxx yds.
My brother and his guns.
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I love shooting and hunting and our passions are just as similar if not equal with maybe me bordering on obsession. That could be from my military background. But I just got off the phone and he traded his XDM springfield .45 acp never fired he just bought 3 weeks ago for $750 for a COLT PYTHON with 6 inch barrel.
HE JUST GAVE ME THE PYTHON:
HE JUST GAVE ME THE PYTHON:
My brother is hard on gear. He's a pretty good shot, but you can bet any rifle or handgun he carries is going to come back from the field with scratches in the bluing, dings in the stock and wonky scope rings. That's just 'how it is.'
I can't 'make' him treat his gear better. Means when we get his rifle out to check it for a hunting season it usually needs adjustment, we adjust and re-zero and move on.
Couple years ago I refinished a stock for him. I don't have the skills/room for a re-bluing but I suspect he'd be better off with a parkerized rifle.
I can't 'make' him treat his gear better. Means when we get his rifle out to check it for a hunting season it usually needs adjustment, we adjust and re-zero and move on.
Couple years ago I refinished a stock for him. I don't have the skills/room for a re-bluing but I suspect he'd be better off with a parkerized rifle.
My brother is just as hard on his gear, he refuses to clean his rifles after shooting. He believes that it messes up the accuracy. He has a bushmaster that he recently bought and has put about 300 rounds through it. He just wants to know how many rounds he can shoot before he has a jam. I told him that it could come in a most in-opportunity moment in a hunt that would cause him to miss his chance for a mountain lion or coyote, or worse in a home invasion scenario.
Mine is no slacker on cleaning, he's just hard on stuff.
MikeNice
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It could be worse. When I showed my brother my CCH permit he just said, "All that means is they'll be harder on you because you should know the law."
He has no interest in guns what so ever. He has a pregnant wife and a daughter. He has been shot at in his own front yard, and he workings a job that keeps him "on call" half the month. So, he gets called out at two and three in the morning to work.
He told me, "I don't need one. I don't mess with nobody and nobody messes me." I just don't understand his reasoning. You would think somebody that had been shot at would know better.
(The person that shot at him was the brother of a woman he was dating. They had an argument and she ran to her brother claiming he beat and raped her. The girl was psycho. At least he learned to leave her alone.)
He has no interest in guns what so ever. He has a pregnant wife and a daughter. He has been shot at in his own front yard, and he workings a job that keeps him "on call" half the month. So, he gets called out at two and three in the morning to work.
He told me, "I don't need one. I don't mess with nobody and nobody messes me." I just don't understand his reasoning. You would think somebody that had been shot at would know better.
(The person that shot at him was the brother of a woman he was dating. They had an argument and she ran to her brother claiming he beat and raped her. The girl was psycho. At least he learned to leave her alone.)
rozziboy18
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my brother and my dad
my brother loves to hunt and shoot with me but refuses to let go of the "tactical lifestyle" that he like to pretend to live. the boy once showed up on a bear hunt with a 700p ready to pull a 2 mile hike up a mountain! but hey what ever works for him, what i dont get is; he has a 700p 308 with leupold mark 4, 6.5-20x50. and he doesnt know how to use any of it! the last two years i have had to dial in his rifle and remark his 200 and 300 yard marks on the dial.
my dad on the outher hand is the best hunter i have ever know and he and i run a hunting and fishing service here in the smokies. it one thing to go out and take a deer for yourself, its a hold other thing to put someone on a deer. but he refuses to try anything new, in ways thats great in others, ammo and scopes, not so much. he still runs the remington core-lokt rn 270 rounds and will not shoot anything else! nothing worng with the round, he just beleves that all other bullets explode on inpact leaving no meat. he also believes that all the new scopes out there are to technical!
my brother loves to hunt and shoot with me but refuses to let go of the "tactical lifestyle" that he like to pretend to live. the boy once showed up on a bear hunt with a 700p ready to pull a 2 mile hike up a mountain
! but hey what ever works for him, what i dont get is; he has a 700p 308 with leupold mark 4, 6.5-20x50. and he doesnt know how to use any of it! the last two years i have had to dial in his rifle and remark his 200 and 300 yard marks on the dial.my dad on the outher hand is the best hunter i have ever know and he and i run a hunting and fishing service here in the smokies. it one thing to go out and take a deer for yourself, its a hold other thing to put someone on a deer. but he refuses to try anything new, in ways thats great in others, ammo and scopes, not so much. he still runs the remington core-lokt rn 270 rounds and will not shoot anything else! nothing worng with the round, he just beleves that all other bullets explode on inpact leaving no meat. he also believes that all the new scopes out there are to technical!
1KPerDay
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Okay... you officially don't get to complain about anything anymore. LOL
doc2rn
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For me its the opposite! I had to loan my brother a dozen rifles I had lying in reserve for him to regain his mancard. Now if only I could get him to understand MOA...for an older brother he is cool.
I'll openly profess I know NOTHING of MOA or mil fomulas, but still own guns and would consider myself as much of a shooter as the next guy. I'm guessing the vast majority of hunters/shooters around here are as clueless as I am about such things....but I don't doubt their ability to defend themselves or put venison in the freezer at will. I think its just as annoying whne someone thinks because they know something or possess a certain skill that they are somehow "shooters' while everyone else is just an "uninformed gun owner". i will say this though....As a lifelong shooter/hunter, NOT knowing mil formulas or MOA ranging HAS NOT hindered my enjoyment of the shooting sports or affected my ability to harvest whatever game it is that I'm hunting. Truth is, I may die being just as "ignorant" but will still have fun, will still fill the freezer, and will still consider myself every bit the shooter as the rookie next to me who thinks he HAS mastered all things sniper, yet can't hit an 8 in. square @ 50 yards/
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Slap him.
mljdeckard
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I didn't read the whole thread, I'm sure someone else already summed this up,
The vast majority of hunters don't need to worry about it. Most hunters won't take shots past 300 yards. For my .270 shooting 130 gr bullets, this means zero at 200, 1/2" high at 100 yards, maybe a 1-1.5" drop at 300 yards. Certainly minute-of-broadside-ribcage for game animals. For varmints, we use even faster, flatter shooting cartridges so that we don't have to do much math on the fly.
Distance shooting is a different ballgame with different rules and gear. You can certainly do one without needing to know how to do the other.
The vast majority of hunters don't need to worry about it. Most hunters won't take shots past 300 yards. For my .270 shooting 130 gr bullets, this means zero at 200, 1/2" high at 100 yards, maybe a 1-1.5" drop at 300 yards. Certainly minute-of-broadside-ribcage for game animals. For varmints, we use even faster, flatter shooting cartridges so that we don't have to do much math on the fly.
Distance shooting is a different ballgame with different rules and gear. You can certainly do one without needing to know how to do the other.
If your brother liked watching "Queer eye for the straight guy", going to "Drag Queen" contests & decorating wedding cakes, does he have the right to be mad or frustated with you because you don't?
All I'm saying is just because something works for you or you enjoy every aspect of your hobby, doesn't mean he should too. Just be happy you two have something in common that allows you to spend time together. We as men are competitive. When you start out shooting him or make those long shots, he'll come around & ask for advice. Now if the real reason for your frustation is because he out shoots you, well that's on you to deal with ;^)
All I'm saying is just because something works for you or you enjoy every aspect of your hobby, doesn't mean he should too. Just be happy you two have something in common that allows you to spend time together. We as men are competitive. When you start out shooting him or make those long shots, he'll come around & ask for advice. Now if the real reason for your frustation is because he out shoots you, well that's on you to deal with ;^)
my younger brother had two guns. One was a p-64 [maybe] and the other was a 30-30 winchester model 94 [i think]. He kept them in the basement for several years without doing anything to them. He needed some $ so he sold them. Needless to say the Winchester was covered with surface rust. What a sad sight.
pockets
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Different streaks for different freaks. Whatever works for an individual to hit the intended target. Not everyone does it by formula.
Lost of people don't get wrapped up in MOA and MIL formulas. The world keeps right on rotating anyway.
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Lost of people don't get wrapped up in MOA and MIL formulas. The world keeps right on rotating anyway.
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ForumSurfer
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MikeNice said:
Haha, I've heard that one before from a friend a million times. Either it's a pretty popular way of thinking in NC or I know your brother.
Claude Clay
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just about all over 16 know the basics of how to drive. how many can tell you if their car has fuel injection? or if it is port injected or sequential? or what it even means...
they just know that it works and go about using it.
thinning out my accummulation of firearms and i asked my wife what guns she likes.....
the kind that go bang. <---her words. she is a safe gun handler and a better than good revolver shooter. go figure.
they just know that it works and go about using it.
thinning out my accummulation of firearms and i asked my wife what guns she likes.....
the kind that go bang. <---her words. she is a safe gun handler and a better than good revolver shooter. go figure.
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I'm the younger brother, but my older brother does like to make himself out to be very knowledgeable on everything guns. Really though he doesn't know much more then how to clean the gun.
My 3 younger brothers share the same feeling, consequently my sister and I are the only ones with CCH permits.Haha, I've heard that one before from a friend a million times. Either it's a pretty popular way of thinking in NC or I know your brother.
DC3-CVN-72
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I have a twin brother. We are about the same skill wise. we don't shoot alot, but, when we do we always have a grate time. were not snipers, and don't want to be. I don't care how he shoots as long as we can shoot together for a verry looooooong time !!
MikeNice
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Forumsurfer, That was the first issue my CCH instructor addressed. He said it was the most common reason he heard for not getting one. I guess it is a popular way of thinking in NC.
ForumSurfer
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Completely understandable given all the severely twisted gun laws here.
mokin
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I'd like to wring my brother's neck too. He isn't nearly as knowledgable about guns as I am (I'm okay with that) but he owns a few, enjoys shooting, has places to shoot, and is pretty proficient with them. I'd like to wring his neck because he has never taken his son, my nephew (going on nine years old) shooting. I could really rant here....
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You failed to teach him. you're fault.
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