My fiancee wants to buy us a HD shotgun... help!

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All are GREAT choices so I would let her get the one she likes. Unless you have an issue other then looks. I've wanted a mariner since 1993? or so but I think the first one I saw was an 870. I had forgotten about them till now DAMMIT!! lol

Although you may want to try to get her to shop around. Those prices seem kinda high.
 
Hold the PHONE.....

The Mossberg 590 Mariner is STAINLESS. I don't see ANYWHERE where it is nickel plated.

Description: MOS MAR 12M/20CB 9SHT SYN&PG
Manufacturer: Mossberg
Model #: Model 590 Mariner 9 Shot
Type: Shotgun
Finish: Marinecote Stainless Steel
Receiver: Marinecote Stainless Steel, Drilled & Tapped
Stock: Black Synthetic, Pistol Grip Kit
Sights: Bead
Barrel Length: 20"
Overall Length: 41"
Weight: 7 lbs
Chokes: Cylinder Bore
Chamber: 3"
Butt Plate Recoil Pad: Black Rubber
Additional Features 1: Sling Swivel Studs
Caliber: 12 Gauge
Capacity: 2 3/4" 8+1
Action: Pump Action
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...just tell her that you love her.

( and tell her that she looks sooo great with that stainless shottie in her hands.)
 
I'm definitely not the Mossberg expert around here, but I don't think Mossberg's Mariner is actually stainless steel. Marinecote is a FINISH that is stainless steel COLOR, I can go with that. Mossberg is always kinda hazy as to exactly WHAT it really is, but it's a FINISH and not solid stainless as far as I know.

As always, YMMV...

lpl
 
Okay, my first post (been a lurker for a while). I'm in the same boat, except my wife wants a glock 17 (or 19) because that's what she liked when we tried some guns out at the range. Frankly I like glocks, but it wouldn't be my first choice - I'd rather get a nice stainless steel 357 revolver, because I think they are beautiful guns and probably better suited for a beginner. Honestly though, I don't know squat about firearms...

Guess what? She's going to get a glock in the next few weeks, and we aren't going to run all over town to find the best price on a used one either, even if I think the prices for new at the local gun store are a little steep. We'll just pick it up (it'll be in her name - it's hers), and go to the closest range, it doesn't matter if it has the highest range fees. And, by 'coincidence' an instructor will happen to be there to show us how to run the gun and be safe.

The point isn't that I'm trying to burn money needlessly - it's that I want her to feel GREAT about her first gun. If your girl wants the mariner, buy it. Then take her to the closest range, get an instructor and shoot some trap.

...and let us know how it goes!
 
. . .If your girl wants the mariner, buy it. Then take her to the closest range, get an instructor and shoot some trap. . . .
Cylinder bore choke would be tough to shoot Trap, Skeet OTOH would be good practice, especially stations 1,7 & 8. That said, I agree with your sentiments. Get the gun of her choice, pay to make sure it fits her (may be tough with a synthetic stock, wood stocks can be fitted so much easier) and then take her out to actually shoot it. Bust some clay, make it fun. Let it really sink in that it's her gun and she really can use it.
 
Let her get the Mossberg, the finish will hold up better, no rust from handling it (course aluminium doesn't rust anyhow) and there's nothing wrong with a pretty gun anyhow. In addition thank your lucky stars that you are one very blessed man to have a future wife who will not only indulge your passion for guns, but wants to partcipate and actually wants to buy a gun. There members of THR who would give their "eye teeth" to have a wife like your future bride. Indulge her, not only her choice of gun, but where she wants to buy it, let her feel comfortable with this purchase . That way in the future when she wants another gun, then you can take her "shopping" at more reasonably priced gun stores.

Good Luck and congratulations on your future wedding.

JohnnyOrygun

If this post seems a little "weird" I am typing it on my Blackberry while in the hospital recovering from hip replacement surgery...and my fingers are "asleep" from trying to type on a Blackberry and my carpal tunnel syndrome. But I'm doing good, Thank God!
 
Indeed, embrace the situation, embrace her, and be nice to her so she'll let you use her nice shotty. Seems like a fine 12ga to me.

If I could have only one gun (yes, I skip those threads too:rolleyes:), it would likely be something like this.
 
OK. Explain to her that the "pretty gun" can give her away if the light shines off of it in an HD situation.
Now the choice is back to you!

Buy this gun http://www.remington.com/products/f...model_870_express_synthetic_7-round_specs.asp

Then, put this stock on it http://www.blackhawk.com/product/SpecOps-Adjustable-Shotgun-Stock,1158,165.htm

What you now have is an adjustable-stock Remington 870, that you can shoot almost anything out of without flinching. I have the Knoxx stock on my HD gun and it is a thing of beauty. Works very well, and your gf with be able to shoot it without trouble.
 
OK. Explain to her that the "pretty gun" can give her away if the light shines off of it in an HD situation.
Now the choice is back to you!

I respectfully disagree. As others have said above, don't wrestle the choice away from her. It is patronizing, and will only discourage her participation in the future.

Let her take ownership of the purchase.
 
Once she buys "her" gun, it will free you up to buy your own shotgun. Having your own will be much better than sharing her's.
 
..or you could introduce her to the Benelli SNT as an alternative.

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Well, at least I think this is "pretty.":D

(Bad pic..sorry)
 
I think the Mariner is nice, but I don't really want my first shotgun to be a boat gun. The 870 and the 500 are both configured similarly from what I can tell (7+1 and all that), but I didn't handle them. I assumed because of the price tag that the 870 was not the Express model (tag just said 'Remington 870 Home Defense), could I be wrong about that?

The mariner might actually be the best of the choices. It has 6 shot capacity(but I'm not sure if that's 6 in the magazine or 5 in the magazine) and the nickel finish means it's less likely to rust. Also, as an alternative, the 590 mariner has 9 shot capacity. These are probably built to be defense guns, but throw on a rifle or aperture sight, and you could probably have a good short-range deer gun.

The nickel finish could be especially nice if you will be using the shotgun a lot, or not very much, I think it prevents rust. I'm not sure if they are finnicky like insight-NEO said, however, so that's worth looking in to.
 
A 20 gauge might be better, or even a youth version, so that it fits her better. (It's easier for you to use a smaller stock than for her to use a bigger one and the 20 gauge will have less recoil either way.)

Also, you may wish to research the 870 marine magnum, it's remington's version of the mariner.

Mossberg JIC,
Not a good idea, it will be very uncomfortable to shoot.
 
SHopping is part of the fun. Then shooting IS the fun.

You might want to have her take a look at a nice Remington Wingmaster with blued steel and nice wood.

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Also check out the Remington 870 Marine Magnum.

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You'll probably run across other nice shotguns.

One thing these days (political commentary on :) )... you might CONSIDER a semi-auto shotgun like a Remington 1100, Winchester Super X3, Benelli, Beretta, etc. Just because they could POSSIBLY be included in any new assault weapon ban. The more folks we have with so-called assault weapons...the better (political commentary off :( )...

Let pick the one she likes and have it fitted to her. Eventually get one for yourself, get a few more couples shooting and start a trap or skeet team.

You've got a winner there.:)
 
Well, we went to Dick's last night. My girl walked right up to the counter and asked for both shotguns. She checked out the 870 for a couple of minutes, then asked for the Mariner. After holding the Mariner for about 5 seconds, she said "nope, gimme the other one back". She thought the Mossberg was flimsy (and I agreed). The 870 seemed like a much more quality firearm.

Before any Mossberg owners jump all over me, it wasn't really a fair fight. The 870 Dick's had was not your run-of-the-mill Express model (for $500 it better not be!). It came with some extra stuff, like a door breach/muzzle brake type thing and a really nice recoil pad, a nicer stock, and it also has a finish that was way nicer than any other Express I've seen (more on that in a minute). It is sharp looking, feels very well-built and very smooth. I haven't had a chance to learn too much about it, but someone on another forum said that this was a part of a special run of guns that Remington made for Dick's, but I don't know if that is really true or not. Either way, it is a very nice gun and well worth the $80 price difference in my opinion.

Now, as for the finish, I'll describe it and maybe someone can let me know what it is. It sort of looks like a carbon-fiber type finish. Looks sort of like black/gray fish scales. Any clue what it is called? Anything I should know as far as taking care of it?
 
The "door breach/muzzle brake type thing" is a Haskinator Choke Tube. You can find pictures of them online. Allegedly helps with recoil and serves other 'tactical' purposes, whatever those might be.

Our gun looks like the bottom picture at this link: http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/10/27/new-remington-870-express-tactical/ Bead sight, no rail. Except, like I said before, it has a different finish. I don't know how to describe it, except to say that it looks like fish scales, lol.
 
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Yes you are right

It does look like carbon fiber. I know exactly what you are talking about but I am sorry to say that I do not know what it is called. I am also sorry I didn't get into this thread sooner because Cabellas has the 870 HD for $299 right now. These have the extended mag tube and a redesigned stock that makes it look more comfortable and less intimidating if you can believe that. I think $500 is on the high side but if you like it then what the hell, right.:)
 
iv never owned an 870, but my moss. 500 persuader is a tank. its been dropped, drug though mud, rained on, thrown in the back of trucks, busted open locked shed doors, and had about 3000 rounds fired through it(many of those 3" magnum slugs) in its 10 years and sad to say has been cleaned about twice. It still fires like the day I brought it home from wal-mart for $199. Now it resides under the back seat of my truck ready to be called upon at a moments notice. Mossberg builds 'em simple and strong, and thats what a good HD gun needs to be.
 
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