My Krazy Cowboy Carbine idea

[Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow]

Yeah, HSO, where is that from? Yes, like that, but a pump, with a P-grip and buttstock, and a forward-mounted ESD of some sort.

KKK..... hhmmm, oops, didn't think of that. OK, then it's the CCC - Crazy Cowboy Carbine.

 

[Yo Mama]

Yup, ccc just sounds better to me!

 

[shagmcnasty]

great idea

 

[hso]

www.orl-llc.com

 

[Still 2 Many Choices!?]

Acera:

If you didn't notice, the ATF makes a distinction between a "handgun", and a "pistol". All pistols CAN BE handguns(or not), but all handguns not pistols. Pistols are allowed to have a second grip! Pistols can be handguns because they CAN be fired with on hand, and have a short stock below the bore axis; they don't HAVE to be designed that way like DEFINED HANDGUNS though.

The ATF doesn't regulate HOW you hold/fire PISTOLS, or HANDGUNS(yet); but how many STOCKS are on a HANDGUN. Specifically a handgun that was purpose built with only one stock, by adding a second GRIPPABLE STOCK, it is modifying the original design to something new. As stupid as it is, I see their logic.

Still 2 Many Choices!?

 

[jeffmack]

Hey Dr. Tad,
Did you ever get it made?

 

[kayak-man]

Are you making props for a FIREFLY comeback?

Please say yes!!!

Actually, I think that could be a pretty slick gun.

Chris "the Kayak-Man" Johnson

 

[BlacklabelOP]

 

[Dan Forrester]

Well I only read the first page but I think it’s a great idea. I have looked at the various pump action pistol caliber rifles but it seems like the lever actions are the way to go. I had a Marlin lever action with a 3 lug barrel and a Gemtech Trinity that I messed around with for a while. It was a great combo. Even though the Trinity is a loud suppressor it still was very pleasant out of the rifle barrel with .38 spl.

I sold that particular gun but am planning on building another now that the stainless steel Marlin .357 lever guns are out. I always opt for stainless over blued living around salt water. I also now have an AAC Ti-Rant which is a fantastic suppressor. Once they come out with the three lug adapter for it I’ll be making another lever gun.

If you do go with .44 or .45 LC I would look at the new 2011 AAC Ti-Rant .45 ACP since it is now possible for the end user to disassembled the can and remove the baffle stack with a supplied tool. This will allow you to remove lead buildup if shooting cast bullets. The Ti-Rant is also probably tied for the quietest .45 can on the market along with the Silencerco Osprey. However AAC revealed at the shot show that for 2011 their Ti-Rant 9mm and .45 ACP suppressors will be end user serviceable for internal cleaning.

If you want big bore quiet you could do a lever gun in .44 magnum if you wanted. Douglas barrels makes a stainless steel fast twist barrel which can be chambered in .44 spl or .44 magnum. The barrel is 1:11 twist so you could easily stabilize 300 grain and up cast slugs at under the sound barrier. I would go with a Marlin .44 magnum lever gun in stainless with the tube cut off at the end of the stock along with a Douglas 1:11 fast twist barrel fit to the gun. That would make for a compact package firing 300 grain plus lead slugs at 1,000 fps with probably no more noise than a pellet rifle. You’d be surprised how quiet this new generation of suppressors from AAC and Silencerco are on manually operated actions.

Post a write up if you build anything.

Dan

Edit: Just realized I’m replying to a year old post. Oh well. I got excited!

 

[Harve Curry]

Nothing New

I once saw a antique 1892 Winchester 25-20 in a beautiful fitted case. Guess what accessory slot was missing, the suppressor.It was considered a gentleman's varmint gun for shooting around the estate.

 

[Kentucky_Rifleman]

It looks like a pretty dumb idea. Several times over. But, its your money. I'm all for it.

If you get this done, I may have to follow suit. I always wanted a Delisle carbine. This would be an acceptable substitute.

KR