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My last inservice.

Discussion in 'Strategies, Tactics and Training' started by GunnyUSMC, Nov 6, 2019.

  1. GunnyUSMC

    GunnyUSMC Member

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    Ever year as a LEO in Louisiana, and many other states, Officers are required to receive so many hours of training. This was my last year, because I retire next August.
    Each year I have inservice training during my birthday month which takes up four days.Two days are spent at the range for firearms training, the other two cover medical, and other topics.
    The two days at the range are a blast.
    On day one we re-qualified on the Louisiana POST Pistol Course.
    Here’s a link to the post I did on the LA. POST course.
    https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/louisiana-post-pistol-course.844164/

    This year I only shot a 114 out of a 120. It’s getting harder to to shoot with the nerve damage in my right shoulder, but I still out shoot a good many officers on my department.
    We were on the range and shooting in less then an hour of our day starting.
    After shooting POST, patrol rifle and shotgun re-qual was done. Then the fun started.

    The rest of the day we used SIM guns. We did firing position, prone right and left, kneeling and from on our back. We fired from each position several times, moving from one position to the next on command. We also did shooting and movement with a partner.
    We then finished off the day in the shoot house, clearing rooms in shoot, don’t shoot scenarios.
    I didn’t get pics of us shooting, just to busy.

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    Today was fighting from vehicles. How to use the vehicles pillars for cover. Using the different firing positions and shooting with and without a partner.
    Here’s my old zone partner. We have been doing inservice training together for the last 14 years.
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    Here I am, with another officer using the vehicle pillars as cover as we engage targets and change positions on command.
    I’m really going to miss training with my brothers and sisters.
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  2. Olon

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    Nice post, Gunny! Looks like the first two days were fun ones. I’ve got to ask, do those pillars really provide adequate cover? I wouldn’t think so but I’ve really no idea.
     
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  3. labnoti

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    Not today's cars. Not against today's 9mm. But if it was a '32 Ford, you can bet you'd be safe behind there even from a Thompson because of how anemic .45 is compared to modern bullets. Well, that and the fact that back in the days of Henry Ford everything was made out of AR500 plates.

     
  4. shootstraight57

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    I used to come home bruised up from hits from the SIMMS ammo! We would take different scenarios and take turns with good guy bad guy.
    I always loved playing the bad guy because there were no holds barred. LOL
    In Service was 10 hours a year for us. Boring but qualifying was fun.
     
  5. psyopspec

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    Good luck in your last year, Gunny, and stay safe! I've really come to look forward to your posts, so I hope you'll keep writing even if the topics shift to whatever hobbies/passions you decide to take up.
     
  6. total recoil

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    Gunny! YOU GONNA' LOVE RETIREMENT!
    Retirement $checks every month and Social Security are my bread and butter along with all the empty beer bottles and cans from the road
    shoulders. (don't laugh they are 10 cents deposit in MIchigan)
    You have so much time on your hands that you can repair 10 gun stocks per day. You will go to the range at least once per week and blow away some of that stockpiled ammo you have. You can also stop in at work and give the new guys some pointers. You will also have time to fix that screen door or leaky faucet.
    Whatever you do............. don't forget us here on the Road. Everyone here wishes you well and a happy retirement,
     
  7. GunnyUSMC

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    Today’s cars don’t have as thick of metal as older cars, but they do have heaver pillars.
    First off a car is a death trap. If you can find better cover, move. But that is not always an option for police officers. But by using the pillars for cover you have a little better chance in a fight.
    Here’s a pic showing the pillars on a vehicle. These pillars go down to the frame.
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    Another problem with using a vehicle for cover is when rounds hit the hood, trunk, or roof they can glance off and keep coming at about four inches higher.
    Here are some rounds that struck a hood.

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    Also, when someone is shooting into a windshield from the front, the rounds come in at a downward angle. The last place you want to be is in the vehicle.
    So if you ever have to fight from a vehicle, GET OUT! Move to the opposite side from where the fire is coming from. Do not get up against the vehicle. You want to be about three feet away from it. You will have better fields of fire, and less chance of glass getting in your face.
     
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  8. GunnyUSMC

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    Those little @*#% do hurt.:mad:
     
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    Today’s vehicle pillars have multiple layers, and angles. We have shot them with 556 green tip ammo and they stop most of them. They stop all 9mm, 40 and 45.
    If you take a good look at the pics of the SUV, you can see the targets on the other side. They are numbered, but not in order.
    The instructor gives you a target number and a pillar letter and you have to move and use the pillar for cover and hit the target twice. At the same time the other instructor is giving command to the other shooter. There’s a lot of yelling and gun fire. This all adds to the stress. It’s fast and fun.
    The guys that say how good they can shoot and all that is needed to end a fight is a well aimed shot have never been in a gun fight. There’s a difference in training to shoot and training to fight.
    If you ever get a chance to take a fighting vehicle course, I recommend it. It will open your eyes and show you some things you didn’t know. Most often a course will cost from $400 to $800.
     
  10. GunnyUSMC

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    I am so looking forward to retirement. When I retire, I’ll sell back a year of vacation and sick time, which will give me more then enough to pay off my house. After that I will be bill free. I plan on taking a road trip before sinking into my many hobbies.
     
  11. lemaymiami

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    I “retired” out years ago and didn’t like it at all - so I went back to work in a completely different field and am still working today, 24 years later...
     
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    Nice info Gunny. When I was in the military I always like going to the range, but nothing compared to the fun you get. I too am on the downward slope. I figured I have five to seven before retirement. Like my dad always said after he retired "I don't know how I ever found time to go to work".
     
  13. GunnyUSMC

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    I have two hobbies that make me money, stock repair and tying paracord bracelets, dog leashes and other things. I have a table this weekend at a local gun show to sell my paracord items. I will most likely finish the show with a nice profit. I only do a gun show every other month, but will most likely start doing more.
    Some might call it work but if it ain’t fun, I ain’t going to do it.:)
    I have always loved the range and love to push myself. Getting down on the ground is not as easy as it was years ago, but it’s still fun.
    This is one of the harder positions for me to shoot from, Urban pron, due to nerve damage in my right shoulder and neck. But I don’t let that stop me.
    You can see the spatter impact on the ground in this pic.
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    I retired in 90 and went to nursing school.
    Retired from that in 08 and went to work p/t at the gun store. Can't/ won't stay home too easy to become.e a lazy slug.
     
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    Thanks for the share Gunny.

    Having only shot civilian comps I can only imagine how much fun some of the drills you guys run are.

    I wish you well in your retirement. So many folks dont know anything but work and get bored with retiring. Sounds like you'll be fine.

    Hope you still have time to check in here from time to time as IMHO you're an invaluable resource/member well liked by many, myself included.
     
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    Thanks for the comps.
    Hell, I might start posting more after I retire.
    I have plenty of project guns to get to and plan to take lots of pics so that I can make post on them.
     
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    That photo looks like my “office” since I work on the water myself.... Most days this time of year I’m on the water with customers a full hour before sunup running into the backcountry...
     
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    Retired 2007 due to LOD stuff.
    2 total knees replacements and a total shoulder.
    I still hunt & shoot [ more now that when I was a R/O ].
    The boo boo's do slow me down and I am not as 'spry' as I was upon pulling the pin.
    BUT at 72 I can still enjoy life and keep busy as all get out.
    Not allowed to work due to total disability statis.
    Retirment is the start of a new life = enjoy the hell out of it.
     
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    Gunny

    I'm not there yet (retirement age that is), but I plan to stay as active as I can (that is if my body holds up), and enjoy my "free time"!

    Looking forward to more postings from you once you retire and get settled into your new lifestyle!
     
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    Good pictures. Being related to and knowing quite a few police officers, I remain impressed with how well the job gets done with the training they get. We expect a lot of cops these days.
     
  22. Buzznrose

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    Congratulations on your upcoming retirement! Thank you for your service to our nation and communities!

    I'm on my second career. Ended my first career after 27 years 9 months at 46 years old. Now at 56, I plan to be working this job until at least 65...then who knows, but one thing I learned in Japan...you cannot stop having a "mission/purpose" or you begin to deteriorate. Of course, the mission can be volunteering at churches/hospitals/schools/shelters, helping friends/family, production gardening, small business, consulting...something to get you out of bed in the morning.

    Keep up with your health! I made that mistake when I left active duty. The downhill slope can be a steep mother! Working hard now to get it back. I have found a huge help in that regard. If you have an open mind and willing to make adjustments, you can reduce and reverse many chronic ailments:

    https://gamechangersmovie.com

    Godspeed Gunny!
     
  23. whughett

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    I retired from an active job at age 56. Family, home and hobbies keep me as busy as I want to be. Boredom is not in my repertoire, boredom is for the idle mind.
    I worked for a local utility for 30 years, been retired for 22, if I can make it 8 more years I’ll have collected a pension from a big company for as long as I worked for them. I’d call that sticking it to the man. ;)
     
  24. czhen

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    Well done Gunny showing the newbies how's done.
    Now is time for another phase in life, you have a good share of fun between USMC and LEO dragging yourself around the field.
    Sharing more time with family, friends, traveling or range time; the other day I said to my wife, tools are my second sidekick around the house
    (the only issue is that she always find something to do for me.)
    In my case, if i don't work out and jog, new pain start coming around, (hehe sometimes we don't want assume our age).
    Thank God you are in shape and active best recipe to stay healthy.
    Soon you will find something to have fun, congrats you made it Gunny.
     
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