My new 686 has a "feature"!!

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ArchAngelCD, I think you misunderstood me. Sooo....

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Originally Posted by 460Kodiak
That's down right embarassing for S&W. LOL. Yeah keep us updated on the outcome. It's almost worth keeping as a joke. Maybe if it was done on a Charter or a Taurus, but not on a $700 + S&W.

Actually I think it's more like an $800 revolver.
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That's why there is a + at the end of the $700 in my post. Sorry I didn't research the price before posting. :scrutiny:

but mistakes can and will happen.
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Unless all guns are made by God now..... duh.

BTW, what does the price of a revolver have to do with human mistakes.
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Absolutely nothing. You took my coment totally the wrong way. I'm saying that keeping a screwed up revolver as a novelty or joke would be more palatable if it was a less expensive revolver, because you haven't wasted as much money then. That's all. The cost of an item doesn't mean mistakes won't happen, and that isn't what I was implying. You could buy a $400,000 Lamborgini, and there could still be a problem from the factory. Price in my mind reflects overall quality, and that companies service in general. It has no bearing on the fact that a factory or QC person may be tired or distracted, and make a mistake.

There are many more problems with the other companies mentioned than S&W or Ruger.
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Agreed. That's why the two revolvers I do own are a S&W and a Ruger. I believe, based on first hand experience with S&W, the reputation of both companies, and the research I do, that I'm better off buying their products.

I'm sure S&W will take care of this quickly, with other companies you would probably wait 6 months or more for the fix.
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Agreed. Based on the stories I've read, and first hand experience seeing the problems with other manufacturer's products and CS stories I've heard, my future revolver purchases will be S&W, Ruger, and Freedom Arms. They are good companies that remedy problems quickly when they come up. That's why I buy their products.
 
I would LOVE to see what the guys over at Ruger have to say about this since it's all over the web now. Priceless. Tuner, that had to be the infamous "Dirty Harry gun" that was stamped .44 Magnum (for the camera) but really only fired .41 Magnum "light special" cartridges so Clint wouldn't flinch. I'm kidding here. I actually think I remember someone else finding one of those back about that time. They could put it on Gunbroker for a gazillion dollars. And someone would probably buy it.
 
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Well........at least the barrel is on strait......on that one anyway. :)
 
Just my guess but it looks like what happened is that after the cylinder was bored it got sent to the wrong CNC machine for the fluting operation.
 
This is a QC problem no doubt and shouldn't have ever gotten out of the doors but fact of the matter it did. Most likely several got out the door like that because these things are machined in lots. The entire lot probably had the wrong number of cyls and flutes.

To all of the guys that say "you should just have S&W send you a new cylinder" or "you should keep the cylinder", I would be willing to bet dollars to dough-nuts that S&W will do nothing unless they get the entire gun back.

So if the OP wants to keep the bad cylinder, he will end up with an $800 paperweight. As the gun will not be safe to shoot in it's current form and Smith is not going to send a new cylinder out without getting the entire gun (cylinder and all) back.

As for changing to a 7 shot configuration, that would require completely retiming the gun and installing new components for advancing the cylinder. That and the fact that no manufacturer I know of will change the configuration of a shipped firearm to another configuration. That would require them to resubmit paperwork and have a change log to document those changes.

Send the gun in, get it fixed, get it back and shoot it.
 
This is just the kind of thing we should have expected living in these the days of denying Pluto's planetary status, the notion that the Mayans were right/wrong and the misguided notion that revolvers should have more than 6 chambers.
 
I just had to check mine out, its a 6 shot with 6 flutes. somehow yours slipped through and i would contact S&W.
 
As for changing to a 7 shot configuration, that would require completely retiming the gun and installing new components for advancing the cylinder.
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I'm pretty sure that's a new cylinder and star, and a new hand of the right length to carry up 1/7 rotation insted of 1/6. Not that big a deal.


... That would require them to resubmit paperwork and have a change log to document those changes.
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Resubmit what paperwork?
 
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Well, they're closed for the holidays.

I've got this fiasco posted on several firearms forums, so they'll be getting the publicity they deserve until sometime next year. :cuss:
 
It apperas they placed seven flutes on a six shot cylinder. I would call S&W and have them replace it under warranty. They will email you a shipping label.
 
Too bad it is not a minted coin printed with a huge mistake like this; it could have been worth lots of $$$$.
 
It apperas they placed seven flutes on a six shot cylinder.
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Yes, it would seem so. But the question is, "How could this happen on a revolver that was supposedly assembled in their esteemed Performance Center not have been noticed? Have they become so dependent on computer-controlled machinery that nobody pays attention?

Of course anyone (I emphasize “one”) can make a mistake, but isn’t this the reason several “someone’s” should be involved in looking and inspecting at various stages of production?

In the opening post the writer mentions that he discovered the flaw after doing some tuning of the lock work. I for one, wonder why this should be necessary on a substantially more expensive Performance Center revolver?

He was paying out hard earned money for something, but what? :confused:
 
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In the opening post the writer mentions that he discovered the flaw after doing some tuning of the lock work. I for one, wonder why this should be necessary on a substantially more expensive Performance Center revolver?

He was paying out hard earned money for something, but what?
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The gun had a good action out of the box. It was pretty smooth and "stacked" just before letoff the way Smiths usually do. For the average guy who's not into competition or doesn't know what a really good DA trigger feels like, it would be fine.

That's not me. I almost never shoot revolvers SA. I've been doing revolver action jobs for over 30 years. I like doing my own work.

What I was paying for was a new, clean, stainless L frame that I could set up the way I wanted it. Now it has a much lighter pull, very smooth, no "stacking", clean letoff and a positive trigger return. It'll require some experimenting to find that "sweet spot" that gives me the trigger feel I want with 100% ignition.

I won't be doing that experimenting until the cylinder is made right.
 
I used to work for a Chevy dealer; every so often we'd get a truck in that was badged Chevy on the port side and GMC on starboard. Stuff happens. In the grand scheme of life it's really not that big of a deal. It's correctable and nobody got hurt.
 
In the grand scheme of life it's really not that big of a deal. It's correctable and nobody got hurt.
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Pure luck. If I'd fired a cylinder full of full-bore factory .357 Mag ammo, it might very well have been a much bigger deal and I'd have been talking to lawyers.
 
WNC Seabee, a .357 chamber wall that's only .100 thick kind of IS "a big deal". If you were standing next to this gun on a range when it fired with someone's handload in that chamber I am quite sure you would think it was "a big deal". Amazingly over at the S&W forum the reactions seem for the most part to be "it happens" or "yeah, I've seen those before or simply that it is funny. I am worried about our race when people look at a firearm made that poorly and don't see any problem or just shrug it off as "no big deal."
 
I am worried about our race when people look at a firearm made that poorly and just shrug it off.
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Naw... The fanboys will never see anything wrong...

Unless it happens to them. :banghead:
 
I can't blame you for wanting to keep this cylinder as a souvenir and I believe S&W will want a proper cylinder in this gun regardless and in the worst way because of liability risks. I really wouldn't doubt if S&W sends a couple of reps to your door after they see this pic all over the forums.......:eek:
 
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