My "new" Bicycle gun

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I've looked for one of this type I could afford for a long time. This is an Iver Johnson chambered in .32 short. This one has lost all it's finish, but is mechanically sound. Grips are worn a bit but intact, no cracks or chips. I thought about cold blueing it, but I think I'll leave it alone. Looks like a 1915 production.

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popeye

Now that's an oldie but goodie! Liked the ad too with the gun being "...designed especially for cyclists and is used now by thousands of wheelmen throughout the country" and "...we make a special offer to wheelmen: I. J. Automatic Hammer Cycle Revolver $4.00 each. Cash with Order. On receipt of order, we will send, postpaid, to any part of the United States". Yes indeed, those were the good ol' days!
 
Howdy

'Bicycle Revolvers' were very popular at the turn of the Century. Bicycle riding was a huge craze and it was very popular with the emerging Middle Class. Bicycle Revolvers were small and easily concealed, they were meant to discourage ruffians, both the two legged and four legged types.

I'm pretty sure that Iver Johnson has a transfer bar inside, that's why IJ considered them so safe. The little owl on the grips facing backwards indicates that is a Smokeless model and is OK to shoot with modern Smokeless ammo.

Smith and Wesson made a Bicycle Revolver too, a hammerless model with a grip safety. I had a chance at one last year, but it was way, way too expensive.

This is my favorite advertisement for Bicycle Revolvers of the time.

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I have one like yours from Iver Johnson and also have a H&R bicycle model that sports the 2 inch barrel and also shoots the .32S&W cartridge. It would be nice to find the S&W version at a good enough price to have the trio.

Anybody know if Hopkins and Allen or any other manufacture made these ?
 
I have one like yours from Iver Johnson and also have a H&R bicycle model that sports the 2 inch barrel and also shoots the .32S&W cartridge. It would be nice to find the S&W version at a good enough price to have the trio.

Anybody know if Hopkins and Allen or any other manufacture made these ?

Unfortunately the 'Bicycle' model S&Ws are relatively rare... and very expensive. Even the 2" .38 S&W version has gotten bloody pricey. I'm always on the lookout for one in bad cosmetic condition that I can afford and restore, but no luck so far.
 
Popeye --- Have you shot yours yet ? If so , or when you do, let us know how you like it. They are cute little revolvers.
 
Popeye --- Have you shot yours yet ? If so , or when you do, let us know how you like it. They are cute little revolvers.
The bore and chambers are like new. The mech locks up great, but the gun has the "hammer the hammer" FP in frame, transfer bar gizmo. I dug up some ammo but I doubt I'll shoot it. I'd only shoot it 5-10 rds. to test functionality but with my luck it would break something.
 
Driftwood

The little owl on the grips facing backwards indicates that is a Smokeless model and is OK to shoot with modern Smokeless ammo.

Very interesting as I did not know that! Thanks for the tip!
 
Here's mine. She's an original, inherited from my dad and much loved by me. I've loaded up some gentle .38 S&W rounds using new Starline brass, Matt's .361, 150 gr. bullets and Trail Boss. I don't shoot her much, but I just love the old top breaks, especially safety hammerless lemon squeezers like this one and someday I'l hope to acquire a stable mate that I can shoot to my heart's content without worrying too much about wear and tear. Until then I'll keep shooting this one, a cylinder or two full every few years anyway, just to keep her in fighting trim!


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Very interesting as I did not know that! Thanks for the tip!

Around 1900 Iver Johnson completely redesigned their line of revolvers.

The ones designed during the Black Powder era had a less sophisticated method of locking the cylinder in battery. The bolt only engaged one surface of the locking slot on the cylinder, the hand kept the cylinder from rotating backwards. The little owl on the grips faced forward, and if you remove the grips you will see the hammer spring is a leaf spring.

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When they redesigned their revolvers for Smokeless powder they used better steel. The locking slots now engaged the bolt on both sides, and the little owl faced backwards. If you remove the grips you will see the hammer spring is a coil spring. But the quick way to tell them apart is which way the little owl is facing.

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Notice the subtle differences in the OP's revolver and the advertisement he posted.




Spug: Lovely S&W Bicycle revolver. As I said earlier, they are very pricey. I inspected one a few months ago, but did not bid on it. It was way out of my price range. For what it's worth, the grip safety on that one was not operating properly. The gun could be fired without depressing the grip safety.

I would be a little bit leery of using Trailboss in any 19th Century revolver. It is not a Black Powder substitute and does not generate the same low pressure that Black Powder and the subs do.
 
Thanks Driftwood. My S&W is a 5th generation model, serial 260xxx, so near the end of the production according to what I've read, maybe around 1939 (?). I figure by that date it was designed for smokeless. I thought Trail Boss was about as close as you could get to black powder in a smokeless propellant, anyway. I have no idea what it's worth. I thought about getting a letter from Smith & Wesson as to its origin, but whenever I get close to doing so I get cold feet.
 
Thanks, I hadn't seen that. I guess in this case it did, in fact, "stop" the machete-wielding assailant, but there's no doubt that the .38 Special is a more potent round. For me this revolver is a sentimental link to another time, and not a carry piece. Although at one time I did carry it. As a teen still in high school, I worked nights in a big city and often took the last subway out, then had to hoof it about three miles to my home in the suburbs. I started running into some unfriendly folks in the midnight hours, and "borrowed" the lemon-squeezer from my dad, stashing it in my groin in a little suede clip holster. It is a small gun, even smaller than a J frame. When my father found out he almost called the police on me. He didn't like me working nights anyway, and was furious that I'd taken his gun. I'm glad he didn't bring the law down on me, and also glad that my discrete carry choice didn't cause it to rust. It really is an elegant firearm, and hearkens back to another time. Someday I hope to find another similar one, perhaps with a longer barrel, that I can shoot a bit more without worrying about affecting the value too much. I've got the reloading dies and a few cases. If I could swing it I'd get one of those .45 Schofield-style reproductions; I just like the top break, and it's especially practical for a lefty like me.
 
Thanks Driftwood. My S&W is a 5th generation model, serial 260xxx, so near the end of the production according to what I've read, maybe around 1939 (?). I figure by that date it was designed for smokeless. I thought Trail Boss was about as close as you could get to black powder in a smokeless propellant, anyway. I have no idea what it's worth. I thought about getting a letter from Smith & Wesson as to its origin, but whenever I get close to doing so I get cold feet.


Howdy Again

Production of the 5th Model 38 Safety Hammerless ran from 1907 until 1940, with Serial Numbers running from 220,000 to about 261,493. So your guess of 1939 is probably a pretty good guess. By that time, S&W was certainly using steel that was strong enough for Smokeless Powder.

Your comment about Trailboss is not unusual. Because of its name and connection with Cowboy Action Shooting, many shooters think that Trailboss is a Black Powder substitute. It is not, but your gun should be good for whatever powder you choose, as long as you stay within recommended published loads for the cartridge.
 
Spug ---- The S&W is the top line of the bicycle guns, and I have seen less than a handful of them in the excellent condition yours appear to be in. Any S&W collector would love to have it.
 
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