My wife responds to anti's verbal assault

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I am guessing that the lever action comment was more along the lines of a slow second shot.

For some reason I am thinking the 50 beowolf is big and slow since it fits in an ar platform so it would be a great gun to stick a muffler on.

However, with current stupid people being so prevalent I would see if you can even walk around with a rifle and a muffler in the state park or whatever since that could end that concept before it gets quiet.
 
Your wife carries a .50 Beowulf? I could see a bear charging her, screeching to a halt upon spotting the gun, politely doffing its cap and saying "sorry ma'am, thought you were someone else."


You left out her reply to the bear. "no problem mr. bear, I think the couple you are looking for is right around the bend". "I think she's wearing a red sweater in fact". "OH thankyou very much kind lady, enjoy your hike"
 
Can your wife sing? Perhaps she could learn to sing to the bears instead of carrying a scary rifle that upsets the yuppies.
 
Re: nature walks somehow being bad for the kid...

The human race has been running around in nature with their kids of any and all ages longer than they haven't been.

I gotta say, our society is a bit overprotective of the kids.

Case in point: Daddy's DeathSwing.

Ever since my daughters came home, they've been playing in various iterations of Daddy's Death Swing. When they where younger, it was one of those blue bucket strap in things, now that they're a little older, it's a normal rubber seat swing.

The thing that makes if fun is that it's suspended from a tree by a single rope, which means that' it's good for a full 180 of arc, spins, does circles and ellipses, the whole 9 yards.

Yeah, I suppose it might be dangerous if A) I was a dumbass and B) didn't watch them like hawks.

THEY LOVE IT.

I have never elicited such laughs, giggles and screams of delight as I have with Daddy's Death Swing.

The kids are growing up fearless.

Contrast this with the neighbor's kids, timid, protected little creatures who can tolerate the DDS at perhaps a mere 20% of it's potential.

I think we can predict whose kids are going to be better off in the long haul.

I look forward to the day when I can post up a bumper sticker proclaiming, "My honor student beat up your thug in training". :)
 
"Lady: "Well did he DIE!?" Like if he didn't DIE then no harm to foul, right?"
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Response: If you could hang around for awhile, I could lose the rifle as long as you promise to throw yourself in front of the baby and let the bear gnaw on your head until I can take the baby to safety. You probably won't die--no harm no foul, right?
 
Rope Swing

The thing that makes if fun is that it's suspended from a tree by a single rope
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I had one of those growing up. They're a blast, especially if you can reach the trunk of the tree from which it's suspended.

When we moved into our last neighborhood, it was the first thing I put up. The kids loved it. Within 2 months, just about every other house in our neighborhood had one.
 
Yes you have to go through the paperwork, but all in all it will cost you about $700 for a supressor, and that really isn't that bad.
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Not for all of us. Here in MO we aren't allowed to have supressors, though MGs are legal. :banghead:

I'm thinking a .454 or .500 revolver registered and equiped with a shoulder stock. Smaller, and with the shoulder stock, a bigger load can be used. Don't know about having a baby across my chest with that though.
 
In TX you can have a suppressor (after jumping through the hoops), but NOT for hunting. True, they weren't exactly hunting, but sometimes it can be tricky to convince a Game Warden that you're in the woods with a rifle but you're not hunting... ;)
 
Stupid Questions

I have been shopping with my mother twice, open carry with a Kimber 1911, condition one. (open carry is legal in Michigan)

I have been asked, "Is that a real gun on your hip" both times. Now I am 48 years old, full head of hair, full beard with a little grey in it. Why would I be carrying a toy gun?

Guess I will just have to stop shopping with my mother (grin).

I almost wanted to respond "no I am 48 years old and here with my mother of course it is a toy gun" but I didn't.

The first time the guy also asked me why he couldn't carry a gun, I told him I don't know, do you own one, Open Carry is legal in Michigan. Then the guy behind the counter said yes it is and that was the end of the discussion.

The second time the guy told me I had to cover it up. I told him no as open carry is legal in Michiga and he said no it was not. He even went back and checked with a woman who had just taken her CCW course and told me she said it was not legal.

I printed off the information from Packing.org and OpenCarry.org and my sister took it back to the store later that evening. Not sure what happened after that. I even offered to show him that it was legal if he had access to a computer with internet access but he was not interested. Oh well it was fun.
 
I'm going to agree with Frandy here. They're bliss-ninnies extrodinaire and believe all wildlife are "gentle woodland creatures" like Bullwinkle or Wocky-Squirrel. Instead of the humorful, harmless and cuddly "Boo-boo" they git WildtearyourgutsoutBrownAlaska who sees them as a link in the food chain. Kudos to your wife for taking responsibility of caring for your child and herself!
 
I looked on ammoguide for the .50 Beowulf numbers and found out if you were using 500 grain bullets, you wouldn't be too far above the speed of sound. If you can find heavier ones than that in the .500" diameter, you could get a load to go at 1050 or so, eliminating the sonic crack and allowing the suppressor to work even better.
 
Good Story!

Is that an air rifle, LOL........... "why yes the song bird population as gotten a little thick around here and I am just trying to do my part!"

I would of loved to seen the look on there faces if that would of come out of your wifes mouth.
 
Assuming the child is up against your chest, I'm not sure a few shots are going to permantely damage the childs hearing. Hearing damage usually results from chronic exposure unless you are talking really loud noises. Most kids are not going to tolerate ear plugs. Might not be a bad idea to have some muffs handy. If you have some time in a bad situation, i.e., bear is stalking you, you might be able to slip them on quickly.
 
I wouldn't worry about the noise. The probability of having to actually shoot a bear is very, very low and the added length/weight of a suppressor could present a problem when trying to present a rifle in the woods. And the likelihood of permanent hearing damage from a single exposure to a barely supersonic firearm is low.

If a bear is stalking me, I DEFINITELY would not be putting earmuffs on the child, either. The benefit would be small and you have to take your hands off the rifle AND lose your situational awareness to do so. If I were being stalked, I'd be keeping my eyes on the bear and trying to extricate us from the situation without having to shoot.

To me, that would be sort of like having a pair of earmuffs on the car seat next to you, so in case you see you're about to get into an accident, you can put the earmuffs on so the detonation of the airbag doesn't damage your hearing. The problem being that your time would be much better spent trying to avoid the accident.
 
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Dear Jordan & Wife;

I think that you are wonderful parents, and your child(ren) are very lucky indeed!!!!!

I wouldn't worry about ear damage in the event of a few shots at close range....far better than the alternative.

Since you live up there, I'm sure that you know far more about bear behavior and safety precautions than us flatlanders. The part about the dogs always going along for your walks is the safest thing you could do in addition to being armed. The vast majority of violent bear encounters happen when a human suddenly violates the bear's space and the bear suddenly goes into attack mode. There are very few bears that "hunt" humans and "stalking" is not a normal bear behavior. Bears are primarily scroungers. Where you live, if it weren't for your dogs, you'd be just as likely to suddenly encounter a bear at close range rounding the corner of your house as you would out on the trail.

I hope that you continue to enjoy the forest, and raise your kids in paradise!
 
Wife here:

It has been a pleasure to read the posts here. Thank you for the compliments and for the interesting discussion. We chose the Beowulf as the best choice from the guns we currently own. I have carried loaner handguns before and felt comfortable with them. I am sure we will purchase something more portable someday. Though I have to say I like that the Beowulf holds so many rounds.. reloading would be the last thing I would want to worry about. Oh and sorry fellas, no sisters. I have some single friends though... :p

I love the outdoors and I try to be outside as much as I can. This is the first year that I have ever carried a firearm with me on my adventures. If there were going to be other people around, then I would go unarmed. (though I really should have been just as nervous about people threat!) And if I wanted to venture further out, then I would invite my father or a male friend to go along and carry a firearm. More often than not I could not get anyone to go with me and so there I sat, at home, dreaming about the adventure I missed out on. As August and September roll around, my female friends want to go berry picking but the men are too busy. And where there are berries there are bears. So another year goes by missing the berry season.

My husband works hard and is often too busy to go out hiking with me as often as I like, so he convinced me that I could carry the rifle myself and be just as safe. I was already comfortable with it at the range (the recoil is NOT bad at all) and the sling made it very portable. Every time I used to go out armed with only the dogs I would be so skittish that it lessened my enjoyment. If a game hen startled in the bushes near me I would jump just about out of my shoes. I was so frightened all the time! It didn't happen overnight, but now that I have the Beowulf with me I am much more confident and at ease -- however, my gaurd is never down completely. As I neared the river during my walk yesterday I was ever so alert and my heart began pounding as I was scanning my surroundings. After a short while my heart resumed its normal pace and I was struck with how seldom I feel so nervous anymore. I really enjoy my time out there now. I stay alert, but I am more aware of my environment than I am frightened of it.
 
THANK YOU BenEzra!!

Your post is exactly along the lines I've been thinking.

Folks: concerning the ear protection direction this thread has taken--

I've shot the Beowulf outdoors without hearing protection (in a hunting situation) and I'd rate the Ear Pain And Ringing ("EPAR") factor a 4-5 out of 10.

I've shot a 9mm pistol indoors, in a car, and other confined spaces, without hearing protection (don't ask why) and I'd rate the "EPAR" factor an 8-9 out of 10!!

Enter the infant. Imagine scenarios such as car jacker/kidnapping.

Should one
A)drive around on daily errands with ear plugs in the kids ears just in case that should ever happen? Several posters have made similar suggestions.
B)leave the kid at home? As one poster has suggested.
C)go unarmed? As these hikers would have us.

Now how about home invasion? Armed ne'er-do-well busts into the house at night-- shall I scramble in the dark for the baby earplugs before responding to the armed threat?

These, like an unavoidable dangerous bear encounter, are dire EMERGENCIES! One might lose the hearing "battle" in order to win the survival "war".

Moving on to suppressors:

I can appreciate the fun in discussing suppressors here. I fantasize about such things myself.. but let's be honest, it really is kind of fantasy land.
The point of this thread was really about apearances and how narrow-minded people have trouble accepting simple safeguards that seem obvious to us.
What greater leap an evil "silencer".
Even with arming oneself there is already an appearance of "Looking for trouble" rather than avoiding it. A suppressor really looks like you are planning to have to shoot. Like a roving "Bear Assasin".
Not to mention how it's going to look to the Park Rangers... like I'm trying to "get away with something".
 
Jordan & Wife,

I got the feeling from your recitation of the conversation that the people were not so much anti as clueless.

I believe you handled the conversation just right. You didn't give the clueless ones any reason to dislike people who carry guns and you may have educated them enough about the hazards of wandering around in bear country unarmed to save their lives.

Now, forget about the sister and girl friends. How would you like to adopt a 58 year old son? I make a great grand pa and am a pretty decent baby sitter, haven't misplaced one yet.

So how about it, Ma, Pa? Sounds kind of good, huh?

DM
 
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Hunter Rose,

When they're young, Velcro works just as good and they don't scream as much when you take it off as they do with the duct tape. :evil:

DM
 
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