whats with everyone recommending Stingers for self defence?
I think a heavy bullet would be much better for a .22 defence load such as CCI Velocitors or Aguila Interceptors.
I agree with regard to defensive use against humans and any other creature larger than a rodent (not counting ROUSes--rodents of unusual size--but I don't think they exist
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The reason I recommend CCI Stingers for personal protection in a self defense gun, FOR THOSE who are determined, or for whatever reason on another, to use a 22cal. round
They're easier to shoot, making some people far more effective as shooters, and you can pack up to 10 of them in some DA revolvers.
is because I've used them for decades and always been satisfied with them..
Back before I decided killing a critter I didn't NEED to kill wasn't fun anymore, I dispatched many a tree rat with Stingers... I've seen what a Stinger jhp can do to the little fellers, and I'm sure the results would be equally impressive when shot into the human body..
Not at all, in my opinion. Larger creatures such as humans require far more penetration for a load to be effective enough for defensive purposes. While a Stinger may blow small creatures apart, such a small amount of energy, relatively speaking, would have little effect on humans. It would be far more effective to use that energy to instead penetrate more deeply in order to have a greater chance of inflicting lethal wounds on humans.
A 22 is just a 22, and I don't recommend them for anyone for personal protection..
With the right loads, a .22 can easily kill a person with good shot placement, and some people are better shots with it. With varmint loads such as the CCI Stinger, it would be best to stick to squirrels and rats and such.
My wife and I prefer the Ruger LCP.. But IF a person is determined to place their faith in the lowly 22rimfire round, then my experience tells me the CCI Stinger is a good choice.
I presume that your experience does not include shooting humans.
Mine doesn't either so far, but different loads behave very differently in terminal ballistics tests, at the very least, and there should be an analogous difference when shooting living things.
I'm sure the CCI Velocitors or Anguila Interceptors are fine choices too, perhaps even better than the Stingers, don't know...
Unlike the Stinger, these loads can meet and often exceed the minimum penetration standard used by most people as well as law enforcement, which is 12" in calibrated ballistic gelatin (although CCI Velocitors use hollow-point bullets, out of a pistol there is not enough velocity for them to expand, so they penetrate deeply).
But Stingers are available most places that sell ammo, and since I've never been disappointed in their performance I just like 'em..
Just personal preference.
They are a superior load against small critters, no doubt, but don't underestimate what .22 LR can do against larger creatures when using loads designed for that purpose (and further improvement is possible, in my opinion).
