JustsayMo
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Anyone have a data source for a load that will push a 250g and/or 300g 45 Colt cast bullet (safely) around 1400 fps in a Marlin 1894?
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Need a 45 Colt rifle load
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Most reloading manuals will have a Ruger/TC section for 45 Colt loads. These are loads that run in the 20 to 27K PSI range and are way above SAAMI specs.
I don't know about Marlin but I did get Winchester to admit that the 94 would handle 28K loads safely.
Some of the Hodgdon H110 or Lil'Gun loads should push a 250gr bullet out of a 20" barrel at 1400+ fairly easily.
I doubt if you can move a 300gr bullet at 1400 FPS though.
Here's a link to the Hodgdon Ruger/TC page:
http://www.hodgdon.com/data/pistol/45coltlil.php
Keep in mind the velocities reported on the linked page are for a handgun so the velocities out of a rifle will be higher. Use a chrony.
I don't know about Marlin but I did get Winchester to admit that the 94 would handle 28K loads safely.
Some of the Hodgdon H110 or Lil'Gun loads should push a 250gr bullet out of a 20" barrel at 1400+ fairly easily.
I doubt if you can move a 300gr bullet at 1400 FPS though.
Here's a link to the Hodgdon Ruger/TC page:
http://www.hodgdon.com/data/pistol/45coltlil.php
Keep in mind the velocities reported on the linked page are for a handgun so the velocities out of a rifle will be higher. Use a chrony.
Hobie
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I load 23 gr. H110 under 300 gr. cast or jacketed for about 1590 fps from MY EMF/Rossi 92.
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That's a really hot and high pressure 110 load for a 300 gr bullet and to get the same velocity out of both jacketed and lead???
I hate to question your veracity but can you please check that and get back with us. If you can cite a published load or one close I'll back off, apologize and then ****... Otherwise.
I for one wouldn't put 23 gr of H110 under a 300 gr jacketed bullet - a lead one - yeah - maybe - but no way a jacketed one.
That's a really hot and high pressure 110 load for a 300 gr bullet and to get the same velocity out of both jacketed and lead???
I hate to question your veracity but can you please check that and get back with us. If you can cite a published load or one close I'll back off, apologize and then ****... Otherwise.
I for one wouldn't put 23 gr of H110 under a 300 gr jacketed bullet - a lead one - yeah - maybe - but no way a jacketed one.
Funny I was just looking this up today. Paco Kelly at Leverguns.com has an article on just this subject; .45 Colt in Leveraction Rifles.
http://www.leverguns.com/articles/paco/45coltlevergun.htm
http://www.leverguns.com/articles/paco/45coltlevergun.htm
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THESE ARE HOT LOADS AND ARE INTENDED FOR USE ONLY IN THE FIREARMS LISTED
That caveat made, these are not really "hot" loads for the guns listed. They are very accurate through the guns noted.
I prefer #2400 in the .45colt. I get superior accuracy to either H110 or Hod LilGun.
I use 20.0gr of #2400 under a Lee 300gr FNGC (cast to 315gr w/gascheck).
I get 1,175fps from my Ruger Redhawk w/5.5"bbl.
I get 1,600fps from my Winchester M94 "Legacy" w/24"bbl.
Backing down to 17.5gr will net you the 1,400fps you are looking for.
Also very accurate is the 20.0gr load of #2400 under the Nosler or Hornady XTP 250gr jacketed bullets. This load runs about 1,650fps from the rifle, and 1,200 from the revolver. their 250gr. It is listed max for Contenders, Blackhawks in the Nosler manual.
I usually prefer to shoot somewhat lower powered loads however. These load are not really neccessary. I find a load of about 8.0gr of Hod. Universal under a 255gr WFN at about 950fps (from pistol) to be entirely adequate. (about 1,200 from rifle).
That caveat made, these are not really "hot" loads for the guns listed. They are very accurate through the guns noted.
I prefer #2400 in the .45colt. I get superior accuracy to either H110 or Hod LilGun.
I use 20.0gr of #2400 under a Lee 300gr FNGC (cast to 315gr w/gascheck).
I get 1,175fps from my Ruger Redhawk w/5.5"bbl.
I get 1,600fps from my Winchester M94 "Legacy" w/24"bbl.
Backing down to 17.5gr will net you the 1,400fps you are looking for.
Also very accurate is the 20.0gr load of #2400 under the Nosler or Hornady XTP 250gr jacketed bullets. This load runs about 1,650fps from the rifle, and 1,200 from the revolver. their 250gr. It is listed max for Contenders, Blackhawks in the Nosler manual.
I usually prefer to shoot somewhat lower powered loads however. These load are not really neccessary. I find a load of about 8.0gr of Hod. Universal under a 255gr WFN at about 950fps (from pistol) to be entirely adequate. (about 1,200 from rifle).
"I usually prefer to shoot somewhat lower powered loads however. These load are not really neccessary. I find a load of about 8.0gr of Hod. Universal under a 255gr WFN at about 950fps (from pistol) to be entirely adequate. (about 1,200 from rifle)."
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This is exactly the load I use in my Rossi 1892 24" rifle. I think pressing for high pressures in these pistol cartridges, and the rifles designed for them, is a mistake. The Marlin 1894, since it is a more modern design, might be an exception, but I'd never attempt the load in the OP in my 1892.
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This is exactly the load I use in my Rossi 1892 24" rifle. I think pressing for high pressures in these pistol cartridges, and the rifles designed for them, is a mistake. The Marlin 1894, since it is a more modern design, might be an exception, but I'd never attempt the load in the OP in my 1892.
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