Need Help with Aftermarket AR Trigger

[John C]

I need some advice from AR gurus.

I have a DPMS lower on which I built a Bushmaster parts kit in the middle nineties. I had an acquaintance of mine who's a police armorer look it over before firing and he gave it a thumbs up.

The problem is the trigger. I did nothing to the trigger upon building it other than inserting the parts. I'm now at the point where I'd like a very nice triggr. I've been trying to find a 2 stage Chip McCormick trigger, but can't find one anywhere. So I've been looking at other high end AR triggers, the Jewel and Giessele. Which one is better?

My question is: Can I install one of these triggers myself, or do I need to have an AR-smith do it for me? To what degree are these triggers "Drop In"? I am not particularly mechanically inclined, but have some basic skills.

Thanks,

-John

 

[MMcfpd]

My first foray into fiddlin' with a gun's innards was to put a Jard trigger in my AR; it was really pretty easy, although I did fret a little beforehand. The trigger and hammer pins will tap out without breaking anything. And look at your old trigger first and make a note (or a digital photo) of how the spring sits.

Subsequently I searched for Chip McCormick triggers and found them "out of stock" almost everywhere, until finally I found one at Shooters Connection.

 

[dakotasin]

no knock on the jewell, because it is one of the finest, but i think the geisselle is better - as long as we're splittin' hairs n' all. either is worlds better than what you have, and both are leagues ahead of about anything else.

 

[Dienekes]

I suspect that the high end triggers are better, but I put a non-adustable Jard in my Bushmaster M4gery to replace the 9# creepy factory trigger. From what I have learned over the years, that is about par for a stock setup on the AR. My Colt in the late 80s was no better.

Installation is easy and the results were well worth it. I went with the 3# spring which is pretty touchy. Lighter (!) and heavier springs are available but I got used to this and like it now. I'm not sure that spending twice as much would give me twice as good a trigger, and this is a vast improvement as it is.

Certainly worth the money and slight effort involved.

 

[bobhead]

I have ARs with both Jewel and Giessele triggers. Both are user installable (just follow the directions). The Jewel trigger is very good. The Giessele is incredible.

 

[antichrome]

another for Jard

I have a Jard (fixed) in my AR. Breaks like glass, I'm happy with it.

~ac

 

[Mr White]

I'll cast my vote for a Rock River National Match trigger. Its not adjustable but its a damn nice trigger. smooth, 4# total, 3 on the first stage, 1 on the final stage, breaks very clean with no creep.

about 1/2 the cost of a Jewel or a Giesele

 

[DogBonz]

I have the Jewel

in my 6.5Grendel and I like it alot. I am very happy with it. It is very smooth and crisp, but it was a bit of a pain in the a$$ to install (well, for me anyway). I have not tried the other trigger that you mentioned, so I cannot speak to which one is better, but I do like my Jewel.

 

[jem375]

Another one to look at is the JP trigger assembly:
www.jprifles.com

 

[Nhsport]

The factory triggers are bad to poor with the RRNM being way ahead of them and a pretty decent trigger. I like the RR and run it in several guns. It runs my Ceiner Conversion and my OLY 9mm upper fine also.
The jewell is really in a different class than the RR ,the one I had never did run the rimfire at all,do not recall if I ever tried it with the 9 mm.
The jewell does take some work to install/adjust but the RR goes right in like a factory trigger with no adjustments to mess with.

 

[John C]

Thanks, fellas, for the replies.

I find it interesting that all the aftermarket triggers advertise how crisp they are. I'm actually looking for a good two stage trigger, preferably adjustable. Are there any out there?

Thanks for the tip on the JP. I'll check it out.

-John