Need help with value of a few old guns
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oldman1946
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Get a shooters bible
It will have the value of everything.
As to the .410 Stevens, I would be interested in buying it. My first gun was at 12 yrs of age and was a Stevens .410 double. It was given to me by a lady that my father was building a house for. Like an idiot, I sold it a few years later so I could buy a grown up gun.
Sure wish I had it back.
It will have the value of everything.
As to the .410 Stevens, I would be interested in buying it. My first gun was at 12 yrs of age and was a Stevens .410 double. It was given to me by a lady that my father was building a house for. Like an idiot, I sold it a few years later so I could buy a grown up gun.
Sure wish I had it back.
The Winchester dates to around 1947 and while some people are asking over $1000 for them I suspect closer to $800, providing it was not refinished.
If it was a pre-war gun the value tends to go up.
If it was a pre-war gun the value tends to go up.
From 1949 to 1970 Stevens Double barrel shotguns were date coded. This code can usually be found behind the hinge pin or ahead of the trigger guard on the bottom of the frame. The code will appear as a small circle with a letter and a number in it. (Source: gundealersonline.com)
Many inexpensive arms were NOT serial numbered pre 1968, so that is not unusual. Are there any other marking on it? Pictures are always helpful.
Many inexpensive arms were NOT serial numbered pre 1968, so that is not unusual. Are there any other marking on it? Pictures are always helpful.
Your M12/12a, with the poly choke is not what it could be since that choke is there!!! It is certainally not worth any where near $700 let alone more; ....the choke....cut the barrel ....yuck...yuck.... NOW if the choke was a factory install which is HIGHLY unlikely ....the choke, choked the value...
On the other had your 410 maybe of considerable ---beyond that of the pee-choked M12/12--- value in excess of $500....if you sell it for less w/o researching in more depth...you're a goof...who does not deserve it!
Just my humber thoughts... hehehehee.....lol...lol...lol....
On the other had your 410 maybe of considerable ---beyond that of the pee-choked M12/12--- value in excess of $500....if you sell it for less w/o researching in more depth...you're a goof...who does not deserve it!
Just my humber thoughts... hehehehee.....lol...lol...lol....
DammitBoy
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Unless there is something unusual about the two guns you mention;
The winchester is worth about $800 and the stevens is worth around $500.
The winchester is worth about $800 and the stevens is worth around $500.
DammitBoy
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Those aren't worth squat, but since I feel sorry for ya, I'll pay the shipping on them to my house.
Think that Stevens is a 1949 vintage gun. There should be a model number on the barrel or more markings of some kind.
Your Remington should have a number/letter code on the barrel (left side, near receiver) that is not the serial #, that's the date code. Pics are helpful, as a true pristine 60's vintage 3 inch magnum wingmaster is a BIG difference in value to a shot out beat up one, or a modern version.
Beretta shotguns were never 'cheap'. There are several grades of Beretta shotguns. They were made 87-96 or so date codes are on the bottom of the barrel or receiver in a rectangle: Date codes for those years are: AS = 1987, AT = 88, AU = 89, AZ = 90, BA = 91, BB 92, BC = 93, BD = 94, BS =95, BH = 96.
Beretta shotguns were never 'cheap'. There are several grades of Beretta shotguns. They were made 87-96 or so date codes are on the bottom of the barrel or receiver in a rectangle: Date codes for those years are: AS = 1987, AT = 88, AU = 89, AZ = 90, BA = 91, BB 92, BC = 93, BD = 94, BS =95, BH = 96.
Telling you your ALTERED MODEL 12/12ga with that poly-choke IS AN $800 VALUE ...
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TRY THIS: POST IT ON AN AUCTION SITE FOR $800.
Then post .410 for $500 see which one brings the most cash....
Book values SUCK. The info in those books is ""months"" old before publication and is months old before actual distribution! A book value does not reflect consumer interest. Does not reflect REAL MARKET CASH VALUE. I gave up on book values more tha 30 yrs ago. When you are told a value of a gun ask the person setting the value if they will give you that value in cash....see what happens!
Take it the 12 to a gun show, approach a vendor ask him to buy it a gun book value, been to hundreds of gun show....
Here are likely responses...
--I was just giving you a value, I did not want to buy it!
--I can't give you $800 no room to make a profit!
--If I bought it I'd just have to find a buyer for an ALTERED GUN...etc..etc..
Just some thought here: you might be surprised at the value of you shotgun for parts......
I've seen a $5 gun sell for $100 and a $100 gun sell for $5...in both cases it is the gun IQ of seller or buyer... which is a comedic story all to it self!
The only value your 12ga has is what someone will pay for it in it's altered condition; it is a shooter grade gun not a collectible. For $800 there are more vestitile shotguns (steel shot), better grade interchangable chokes and readily available parts....If you sell that 12 for $800 let me know I will buy an Original model 12 / 12 ga for $450***, 3" chamber, Nickel Steel, UN-CUT, in factory original configuration then I will send it to you and you sell it for $800 or more: we will split the profit.
***I turned one down...it may still be availble..
Bottom line accept PROPOSED GUN BOOK VALUES WITH POUND OF SALT
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"My grandfather left me a few old guns and I have no idea of the value."
Actually this says it all! And that value..to me...Warren Buffet does not have enuff gelt!
...: !TRY THIS: POST IT ON AN AUCTION SITE FOR $800.
Then post .410 for $500 see which one brings the most cash....
Book values SUCK. The info in those books is ""months"" old before publication and is months old before actual distribution! A book value does not reflect consumer interest. Does not reflect REAL MARKET CASH VALUE. I gave up on book values more tha 30 yrs ago. When you are told a value of a gun ask the person setting the value if they will give you that value in cash....see what happens!
Take it the 12 to a gun show, approach a vendor ask him to buy it a gun book value, been to hundreds of gun show....
Here are likely responses...
--I was just giving you a value, I did not want to buy it!
--I can't give you $800 no room to make a profit!
--If I bought it I'd just have to find a buyer for an ALTERED GUN...etc..etc..
Just some thought here: you might be surprised at the value of you shotgun for parts......
I've seen a $5 gun sell for $100 and a $100 gun sell for $5...in both cases it is the gun IQ of seller or buyer... which is a comedic story all to it self!
The only value your 12ga has is what someone will pay for it in it's altered condition; it is a shooter grade gun not a collectible. For $800 there are more vestitile shotguns (steel shot), better grade interchangable chokes and readily available parts....If you sell that 12 for $800 let me know I will buy an Original model 12 / 12 ga for $450***, 3" chamber, Nickel Steel, UN-CUT, in factory original configuration then I will send it to you and you sell it for $800 or more: we will split the profit.
***I turned one down...it may still be availble..
Bottom line accept PROPOSED GUN BOOK VALUES WITH POUND OF SALT
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
"My grandfather left me a few old guns and I have no idea of the value."
Actually this says it all! And that value..to me...Warren Buffet does not have enuff gelt!
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chuckusaret
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For information about the model, you can find it in The Standard Catalog of Firearms. The 311 started as the Springfield 5000 about 1920 and the model designation changed to 5100 in 1931 and about 1940 it became the 311. In 1948 the Springfield line was dropped and it became the Stevens 311 until it was discontinued in 1989.
If it was manufactured between 1949 and 1968 there will be a small circle with a number and a letter stamped between the trigger and the hinge pin. The letter indicates the year of manufacture.
A thru N > 1949 thru 1962
P > 1963
R thru V > 1964 thru 1968
I have a 1953 Model 311 .410 which has been appraised at $450-$650. Hope the above info helps.
If it was manufactured between 1949 and 1968 there will be a small circle with a number and a letter stamped between the trigger and the hinge pin. The letter indicates the year of manufacture.
A thru N > 1949 thru 1962
P > 1963
R thru V > 1964 thru 1968
I have a 1953 Model 311 .410 which has been appraised at $450-$650. Hope the above info helps.
Jim Watson
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On the Beretta, BS is Italian date code for 2002.
Thanks Jim I couldn't find date codes that went that late.
I suspect your 870 was made in 1971.
As for the value of your Winchester, there is indeed a big difference between what a DEALER would give you for it, what a BUYER (at a gun show) might pay, and what you may INSURE it for. Poly choke or not, the barrel of a shotgun is the most replaceable part, and spare barrels for shotguns are pretty common and often not expensive. Fact is Winchester isn't making any more of those, and the value will only go up. It won't skyrocket like a 1st generation Colt SAA, but it's still got some value.
I looked around at Winchesters that old, and gave you a ball park figure. Without detailed pics, all these are gross estimates at best.
Hope you continue to enjoy your shotguns.
As for the value of your Winchester, there is indeed a big difference between what a DEALER would give you for it, what a BUYER (at a gun show) might pay, and what you may INSURE it for. Poly choke or not, the barrel of a shotgun is the most replaceable part, and spare barrels for shotguns are pretty common and often not expensive. Fact is Winchester isn't making any more of those, and the value will only go up. It won't skyrocket like a 1st generation Colt SAA, but it's still got some value.
I looked around at Winchesters that old, and gave you a ball park figure. Without detailed pics, all these are gross estimates at best.
Hope you continue to enjoy your shotguns.
TEDDY
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during WW2 the gov bought a lot of shotguns for arial gunners and they had poly chokes on them.I was in Navy and had charge of a training range.
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