Never owned or shot a shotgun...........yet

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The main guns you will see on a skeet range,
Remington 1100, solid, reliable, good weight (most skeet guns run about 8-10 pounds)
Remington 11-87 solid, reliable, good weight, will run 3" shells for hunting if necessary.
Beretta 3## series shotguns, very light recoil, reliable, many target versions available. 391, 390, 303 most run 3" shells if necessary but work well with light loads.
O/U's Beretta, Krieghoff, Caeser Gurrini, Browning, SKB, Kolar etc.

Ruger Red Label had about a 50,000 shell life span, about 3 years for a heavy shooter, I know, went through the BS with Ruger about them, never again. NOT MADE ANY MORE AND NO SERVICE. Loved that gun though, felt great. You will find an odd assortment of occasional shooters that shoot M12's, 870, Ithacas, Mossbergs, but they are more for sharpening up before bird season. Rarely will a Benelli be seen on the skeet range, most I have seen will not function superlite target loads. An occasional SxS will happen by as well.
Barrel Length, most modern skeet shooters like 30"+ barrels.

Weight is your friend with a target shotgun, it absorbs the felt recoil of the 100-300 shells shot in a day, helps with follow through of targets as well.

Trap guns that you will mostly see;
Browning BT's, Perrazzi, Krieghoff, Beretta, Kolar, Remington 870 trap grade, Caeser Gurrini, the occasional Win M12. Very few people will shoot an autoloader on the trap range as it will bounce shells off of your partner to the right unless you use a shell catcher. Of course you will see all the field guns out there shooting as well, but I can just about guarantee you will see a couple of these on about any squad of dedicated trap shooters. Barrel length , 32"+

It is really not the gun, although the right one for the right game is extremely helpful, but the shooter that takes the time to learn how to shoot. My most fun gun I use is a Winchester 1897 with an ugly poly-choke on it, last week ran a 25 with it in 20degree weather. My business gun is a Beretta 682 Sporting with 30" barrels for skeet and sporting clay, my go to trap gun is a Winchester M12 with 30" barrel.

If you are a pistol and rifle shooter, you may need to unlearn some things, stance, both eyes open, foot work, all play their part.
 
I have been watching this thread and it seems to be gravitating to semi-autos for the gun of choice.

When I was a teen I had an 1100 to shoot for skeet. I quickly made the change to an 870 12 gauge 26" VR IC choke, and after much practice I could rechamber it faster than an 1100.

Just a personal note: with an 870 one knows whether or not the chamber is loaded or not as a safety concern. It all has to be done manually with the 870. With semi-autos one may have a live round in the chamber after the last shot and not know it.

My vote goes to the 870 only because I am familiar and comfortable with it.

YMMV.

Jim
 
My vote goes to the 870 only because I am familiar and comfortable with it.
I agree, but I believe a new shooter that has never run a pump will be at a disadvantage trying to develop the skills to shoot the clay games. Even then an autoloader will take a bit of time to learn, but at least he doesn't have to remember to shuck it. The bad things about autos, is picking up the d*** shells because I reload, other wise it would be about all I would shoot.
 
The bad things about autos, is picking up the d*** shells because I reload, other wise it would be about all I would shoot.
I used to reload for 12 Ga until the shot got to be too spendy for me. I can't even break even anymore compared to factory. I still have to pick up my shells though so I lay a tarp down when shooting backyard with my family.
 
I used to reload for 12 Ga until the shot got to be too spendy for me. I can't even break even anymore compared to factory
I can reload the equivalent of premium factory superlite loads for about $3.40 per 25. Lead costs about $2.25 of that, primer, wad and powder the rest. Give or take a few cents. The real savings is the small gauges.
 
I can reload the equivalent of premium factory superlite loads for about $3.40 per 25. Lead costs about $2.25 of that, primer, wad and powder the rest. Give or take a few cents. The real savings is the small gauges.
That's not bad. Years back I could pull off around $2.25-$2.50 a box, then finally ran out of shot and checked cabelas and man did lead go up from what I remember. Id dust off the reloader if I could make my own consistent shot. But I pay $19.99 for a 100 at wally world for federal target loads. Just too close to what I can reload for and for how much I shoot shotgun. Sorry for the thread hi jack.
 
Pete, Another thought. Don't want to start a war here, but regarding Browning A-5s. In my experience people either love 'em or hate 'em. Two of my brothers have them and I've shot their's quite a bit before I made enough money to start buying my own shotguns. Also my best pheasant hunting buddy loves his A-5 light 20. Having also shot my dad's 870, I had some experience to base my choices on later in life. Quite honestly, I just don't like the recoil and the older 12s are really heavy, so I'm in the don't like them category. Benelli has done a great job of designing a gun with a rounded hump that is similar in function to the A-5 hump, but with a much smoother and lighter recoil. Your best bet will be to try as many options as you can and be prepared to try something different even after you buy something. You could easily get overwhelmed by the number of choices. But, experience will guide your choices. Have fun. Tom
 
Pete, Another thought. Don't want to start a war here, but regarding Browning A-5s. In my experience people either love 'em or hate 'em. Two of my brothers have them and I've shot their's quite a bit before I made enough money to start buying my own shotguns. Also my best pheasant hunting buddy loves his A-5 light 20. Having also shot my dad's 870, I had some experience to base my choices on later in life. Quite honestly, I just don't like the recoil and the older 12s are really heavy, so I'm in the don't like them category. Benelli has done a great job of designing a gun with a rounded hump that is similar in function to the A-5 hump, but with a much smoother and lighter recoil. Your best bet will be to try as many options as you can and be prepared to try something different even after you buy something. You could easily get overwhelmed by the number of choices. But, experience will guide your choices. Have fun. Tom

True about liking or disliking the original A5’s. Since the barrel moves, a person feels two recoil impulses(there is probably a better term for it) instead of the one impulse you feel with any other type of shotgun. Some people find it distracting, some find it unpleasant.

Someone mentioned Browning marketing A5’s again. Other than having the humpback shaped receiver the new ones are totally different shotguns than the original - Inertia instead of long recoil.
 
They are meant to be an extension of your will and intercept flying objects.

Feeling metaphysical? Since the talk had turned to autos, I agree, the 1100 or better yet, 11-87 will be a better skeet gun. And Sniper66 is right, A-5's are a love/hate thing. The thing I dislike is having to set the rings for the load.
I started shooting Trap with an 1100. But I hunted also, and that 1100 jammed often enough on hunts that I bought an 870 shortly after turning 18, and have had at least one since. The pump hasn't affected my Skeet scores any (though I admit this is more to focusing on Trap) , and is 100% reliable. The most common malfunction on an 870 is short-stroking it, and isn't the gun's fault.
 
I bought an 870 shortly after turning 18, and have had at least one since. The pump hasn't affected my Skeet scores any (though I admit this is more to focusing on Trap) , and is 100% reliable. The most common malfunction on an 870 is short-stroking it, and it isn't the gun's fault.

Bravo to you and that post! I always found it hard to short stroke an 870 Wingmaster because the empty has to eject before the next round can be chambered, but that is just me. Others not accustomed to a pump gun may have different experiences.

I never had a problem short-stroking my Dad's Win Model 12 16 gauge either, nor a Win Model 42 .410 that I was allowed to shoot once for a round of skeet, nor a friend's Model 12 20 gauge with a Cutts Comp.

I guess it all boils down to preferences.

Very good thread. I have enjoyed it.

Jim
 
I think a pump is the perfect first shotgun. They’re cheap and reliable. American as apple pie. Easy to care for. And even after graduating to something better that gun will still have a role as backup, loaner, and home defense weapon.
 
Almost all shotguns today have screw-in choke tubes. Used guns without them are often much cheaper, but much less flexible in use. I'd never get another one without choke tubes.

I have an older 1100, 12 gauge Special Field and it's a real killer on birds of both live and clay. It's got a very smooth action, short barrel, and straight english-style stock. The newer 11-87 is more flexible, since it shoots both 2 3/4 and 3" shells. I don't semi-autos as much as I used to because we do a lot of road hunting up North and it's slower to load two rounds than my O/Us.

I had an 11-87, 20 gauge with a straight stock, but hadn't used it much, so just gave it to my grandson, who's 16. He's one happy camper!

My best shooting shotgun now is a Franchi 20 gauge O/U, bought at Dick's Sporting Goods on sale for $750 a few years ago. It comes up right every time and very fast. I like the pistol-grip stock. The gun seems to be custom made for my body.
 
When I was younger and guns didn't have choke tubes, I always bought modified barrels. The mod barrels were versatile enough to shoot every type of bird. These days when I can easily swap tubes, I often go with modified. I've shot sporting clays with guys who carry a speed wrench and will change tubes at almost every station. My brother shoots improved cylinder on every station and usually wins. As my brother says, "It doesn't matter which choke you use; you still have to hit the target."
 
When I was younger and guns didn't have choke tubes, I always bought modified barrels. The mod barrels were versatile enough to shoot every type of bird. These days when I can easily swap tubes, I often go with modified. I've shot sporting clays with guys who carry a speed wrench and will change tubes at almost every station. My brother shoots improved cylinder on every station and usually wins. As my brother says, "It doesn't matter which choke you use; you still have to hit the target."
I agree; I use a Turkey Full in my 870 for 16 yard and handicap. Really smokes 'em from 16 yards.
 
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