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If only CZ would FIX that stupid azzbackwards safety!!
DM
It's funny how people have such a problem with that on the CZ rifles, but nobody seems to mind it on the pre-64 Model 70 Winchesters.
If only CZ would FIX that stupid azzbackwards safety!!
DM
It's funny how people have such a problem with that on the CZ rifles, but nobody seems to mind it on the pre-64 Model 70 Winchesters.
Look into it...Huh?
It's funny how people have such a problem with that on the CZ rifles, but nobody seems to mind it on the pre-64 Model 70 Winchesters.
I'm sitting here with a pre-64 M70 from 1950 in my hands. The safety isn't backwards. Back is safe, middle unlocks the bolt, forward is fire. Only the pre-WWII M70's (1936-1941 or so) were configured like the CZs, which require the safety be back to fire, forward is safe.
No, you said pre-64's, which would be all of them.In truth, it was only the first 5yrs out of 28yrs of production.So like I said....
No, I didn't miss it. Apparently you put a lot more stock in that than I do.YBut you missed the point where I mentioned that I'm a dealer.
As do I, about two dozen of them in fact.I have a large number of rimfire rifles in my personal collection...
And I do not agree, especially for their modest price. Again, you act as if there is a huge gap between Savage and CZ and I just don't see it. IMHO, both rifles are accurate and good values. Neither is perfect....my opinion is that while they are accurate, they leave a LOT to be desired in terms of fit and finish.
I'm not a "Savage fan" and I'm not here to defend my choice. I'm not so small-minded as to think that my choice is the only valid choice and that statements denigrating my choice should be taken personally. I just guns based on merit, not emotion. That said, I don't care for their centerfires at all.I actually own Savage centerfire rifles personally also and have no problem recommending them.....I get it. You're a Savage fan and you actually own the gun in question so it's only natural that you're going to defend your choice of purchase.
As I said, you obviously put more stock in that than I do. Having worked n a gun shop in my youth and been to countless shops in 37 states, I see little reason to value a dealer's opinion over any other. That's not an insult, just an observation.But you missed the point where I mentioned that I'm a dealer. I have owned FAR more examples of rimfire rifles than a vast majority of members here. I sell pretty much every brand, including Savage, so I have no dog in this fight. I'm just providing my opinion based on my years as a dealer and all of the countless rifles I have seen come and go.
I have contradicted nothing. Being a dealer, I should not have to point out that used merchandise sells for less than new merchandise. Your comments suggested that you wouldn't be able to sell off the stock and bottom metal at all and that is just not true.And you've directly contradicted yourself in reference to you comment about the stock and bottom metal. Your comment was, and I'm directly quoting here, "you will always be able to get your money back." Then in your last post, you acknowledge that a person will lose some money trying to resell a stock and bottom metal. So you can't get exactly get your money back if you're taking less than what you paid for something.
DM;
As CZ is a European company, they cater to the world market. Although they certainly realize that the U.S. is a major segment of that market to them, they do not regard it as the tail that wags the dog. They obviously don't regard the positions of the safety as being broken, ergo they're not going to "fix" it. Some of us are adaptable people, some of us aren't, or can't do that.
900F
I've spent much of my life hunting DG, and when I shoot my 22's, I want them to "improve" my muscle memory, not screw it up with a azzbackwards safety!
Seems the guys on here that don't give a darn what others thing about a CZ safety, sure get worked up and take the time to defend them! lol
BTW, I practice what I preach, and bought the Anschutz. lol
DM
Yeah, I can see the how the large number of dangerous game hunters who like to practice with a 22 might have an issue with the opposite safety travel. So that's definitely something to point to a new buyer....you know...in case they are also a dangerous game hunter and not some Average Joe looking for a 22 plinker or squirrel hunting rifle.