New .243 Ackley

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This is a "bargain" custom project. I bought a new Remington 700 SPS Varmint in .243 Winchester for under $400 as the base. The Grayboe Renegade, Timney 510 trigger, and the Vortex PS-T scope were all purchased second hand on the gun boards; I had the base and rings. Took the gun to Tumbleweeds Rifles and had Mark true the action, set back and rechamber in .243 Ackley Improved, and then bed the action and float the barrel.

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At the range today fire forming brass. Load was 39 grains of Varget under an 80 grain Remington Power Lokt flat base bullet. Average velocity was 3,250. This is not a "developed load." Just using a bullet I have lots of. Results were pretty good; cases formed nicely, and the targets were pretty cool, too.

Tried something new. Before heading to the range, I took the ejector out of the bolt. It was really sweet not having to catch or pick up brass; just lift the case out of the action.

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I fire formed 100 cases this morning; pictures are the best and worst groups. This is my first wildcat cartridge, so I had no idea what to expect with regard to accuracy while fire forming. I was shooting 5-shot groups, and the 20 groups averaged under an inch. So I am quite pleased with the result, especially as I just threw these loads together, and they were shot from .243 Winchester brass. Promising, now that I can begin load development for real with .243 AI brass!

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I love my .243 Ackley. I had a very pristine with good barrel .243 1961 Winchester Featherweight with a little errosion in the throat set back a little to true and rechamber to .243 Ack and the action face trued , the trigger reset to 3 pounds and a little fiberglass at bedding points. It puts us similar groups as yours with 90 grain Accubond Noslers with the Zeiss HD5 3-15 scope I have on it. It is my old age deer gun :)
 
I suspect you’re right ...

I have another in the works: a “Remage” barrel for a Model Seven should be arriving in a couple of weeks. Intending to build a light weight hunting rig. The 700 will do the case forming task, and when it’s shot out? Well, we’ll see.
 
I've got a 257 Ackley. I've found that I get essentially the same result while fireforming as I get with formed brass.
 
Maybe they should have named the .243 Ackley the .243 Ache-ley because it seems like a pain, due to the short barrel life and compared with the seemingly small benefit obtained?
 
Maybe they should have named the .243 Ackley the .243 Ache-ley because it seems like a pain, due to the short barrel life and compared with the seemingly small benefit obtained?
Significant advances in ballistic achievement have been hallmarked by seemingly small benefits, as have indeed, the progress of civilization.
 
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You pay your money and take your choice! That's what's great about guns, especially if you can sell/trade them when your're looking to change them for another one.
 
Good choice. I'm shooting 243AI everything been done to Rem action and it's got Hart 1/10 twist barrel. If I burn a barrel first thing I think about is all the fun I had doing it. I mostly use for antelope tag few coyotes. Been shooting Berger 95gr CH with IMR-7828ssc.
 
Maybe they should have named the .243 Ackley the .243 Ache-ley because it seems like a pain, due to the short barrel life and compared with the seemingly small benefit obtained?

I’ve ran Ackley’s or similarly improved shoulders in 223, 243, 25-06, 6.5 Swede, 7 Mauser, 7-08, 7-30 waters, 30-30, and 30-06. Technically, my 284 shehanes are “improved versions of 284win too, I suppose, but the capacity gain is less than the others. The ballistic gain is marginal, but it’s “more marginal” in some more than others. The .243win Improveds (there are two - so watch your ass when buying dies and Reamers) do gain more than enough to be worth while. The Mauser cartridges pick up a lot too, since they have a lot of taper and sloped shoulders. Didn’t gain anything in 25-06 except trimming... The major advantage is the time savings, and brass life. Less brass stretch, no trimming, means I save a lot of time trimming, deburring, and chamfering in every loading. I just anneal, size, and load. The 150-200fps I pick up in MOST of those is just gravy.

I usually do my fireforming with a false shoulder. Shoots just as accurately as my fireformed loads usually, and if the charge fits in the case, I can run my prelim load development in the fireforming step. I started hydroforming a handful of years ago - only complaint there is the added cost of dies, but really, they’re usually custom dies, custom barrel, custom reamers - all with custom prices, so an extra hydroform die really isn’t terrible.
 
I've got the Ackley books, both volumes. Do you want pictures of the 243 pages? Heck, if you are willing to spring for shipping both ways you can borrow them.
 
Hey, thanks for the offer! I'll PM.

I know people think of the .243 AI as a barrel burner, but I expect that if you don't hot rod your loads, the AI version should outlast a standard .243 Win.
 
It SHOULD outlast the standard 243, but it’s not measurably better, in my experience, after 4 barrels in 243 Improved. If I had two barrels of each, I can’t say I would bet both AI’s would last longer than the two standards. You’ll run lower pressure with the same load and lose 25-50fps, so then you’ll run a little heavier charge or even a heavier charge of a slower powder to capture back that speed, and you can shorten back the barrel life you thought you bought...

So in other words, if you load 243 AI to 243win velocities, you MIGHT see 100-200 more shots, might not. If you load the AI to AI realm, it’s shorter, and 243win sucks for barrel life anyway. Love the round though, especially in a 7.5-8” twist. Shooting a 6 Creed now for competition which isn’t as fast as 243win, let alone 243imp, and barrel life is likely to be south of 2,000rnds. I expect 1800-2000 from 243 or AI before I can’t tolerate the spread, with a notable tag off at 800-1000 where groups start growing.
 
Ackley says in his book that the 243 ai was mostly due to demand rather than an actual improvement. Still, I like the shape of the case better as an ai version, and if I've got to load and look at them, it should be visually appealing right?
 
If you read Ackley's data for the 243AI getting 3575fps with 90 bullets would seem to be improvement and that's max load but no guarantee on accuracy and it be same you loaded max in 243.
 
Ackley says in his book that the 243 ai was mostly due to demand rather than an actual improvement. Still, I like the shape of the case better as an ai version, and if I've got to load and look at them, it should be visually appealing right?

Can't disagree with you there - I absolutely LOVE the way the little 17 and 221 Fireball cases look, and even if they aren't the most ballistically superior rounds, I can't help but love shooting them just for the appearance. Same with the 6 Dasher, especially in a specialty pistol!

I shoot a precision rifle match this weekend and noticed a unique little cartridge when I was shagging brass for another shooter - headstamp was 6.5 Grendel, but the shoulder and neck certainly were NOT 6.5 Grendel... Turns out he was shooting a 6mm FatRat, he showed me some of his loaded rounds, stoked with 107grn SMK's, it was love at first sight!
 
Ahh, I want to find Grendel brass.....it's expensive to buy, I'm just starting to buy all my parts for it, and my wife tells me she lost the Chevy keys. The ones that it will take $150 to replace because they're stupid smart keys that have to be programmed :(
 
Seems like here of late the poor'ol .243 just don't get no respect. So folks (me included) trying to make it something it ain't. The AI gives it a marginal boost, which is pretty much OK since most of us live on margins anyhow. About all it can be made to do however is in 6mm CHeetah dress, where capacity tops out, but it still doesn't qualify as a card carrying barrel-burner. In order to achieve 6mm world class barrel-burner status one must aspire to something like the .243 Catbird. I've tried most of 'em and still working at it. Attached are photos of a few, including A Rem 700 BDL Varmint model that was once a .243, now rechambered to .6mm CHeetah, a cartridge lineup of standard .243, 6mm CHeetah and .243 Catbird, and a .243 Catbird rifle made by Jarrett Rifles. DSC00047.JPG DSC_0014.JPG DSC_0011.JPG DSC_0008.JPG
 
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