YES! What made glock popular was a myriad of things...price being one of them. Reliability, capacity, & simplicity are some of the major factors that contributed & still contributes to their popularity. I own Glocks, Sigs & HKs. All great guns. Like em all. There is absolutely nothing an $800 Sig 220 or a $1200 HK45 can do (except hold fewer rds & cost more) that a Glock 21 can't do. And I own all three. I am all for innovation, when it accomplishes something meaningful. The Sig 224? That thing makes a Glock 27 feel sveldt in comparison. Was it innovative? Or was it an answer to a question Sig thought existed, but maybe didnt. From the dealers I've talked to, they're not selling real well. How long did it take Sig to make a high cap 45? 30 yrs? And it holds 10??? Yeah, real innovative. A double stack .32? Really? A single stack 9 would be great though. Never said it wouldn't.
New Glock Model 42
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351 WINCHESTER
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Glock need to focus on getting their current models running better. They need to have better ejectors made at the very minimum, plus who wants a single stack glock with an overly thick slide?
chicharrones
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LiveLife
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Keep in mind the 4.75" and 3.25" dimensions are my "best guess" based on extrapolated measurements taken off the ad picture. It will be interesting to see how close I am to actual dimensions of G42/380 pistol.Gtscotty said:
ThatGuyHank
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I really hope that outline is just for brand recognition or some other marketing ploy. If that is the "true" size of the gun in relation to a Zippo, It'll be a 2 finger deal for me; one on the grip and one on the trigger. That is entirely too small for my tastes.
WinThePennant
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When his gun business became successful, and his focus was 100% on designing new pistols, wouldn't it make sense that each sequential patent was for a new gun design?
Zerodefect
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Maybe. But those Glocks were far better than the PD's previous pistols.
Trade my Glock 23 for a HK, or Sig??? Haha, yeah right. I agree, Glock should come out with a slimmer single stack G19, G26, G23 (if possible). But Glock can only go so far, before Glock, isn't Glock anymore. There's something genius to my G23, whether I like it or NOT, it's still by far my most effective pistol.
PD's are switching to the M&P because it's a Glock with a better feeling trigger IMO, and is priced similar or less Cops ain't allowed to modify their guns at many departments. If I was them, I'd carry whatever I wanted. They can keep their freebee guns.
Vodoun da Vinci
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Being a brand new Glock owner (less than 1000 rounds and less than 3 months) I have to interject some perspective. I wanted nothing to do with polymer pistols, striker fired pistols, or Glocks until a few weeks ago when my Wife and I re entered shooting sports (to qualify for CCW and find our preferred fireamrs platforms) after around 30 years of shooting inactivity. A lot has changed in 30 years.
My Glock 26 is a black plastic chunk and it leaves me cold *but* I have been converted to the dark side by the functionality and accuracy of the Glock. It is utterly reliable with any ammo I throw at it and accurate in rapid fire to the point of being the pistol to beat in our competitive search for our best shooting pistol.
The reason Glock is the pistol to emulate and beat/take market share from by other makers is because they work. Period. Glock Perfection? Hardly...but I think they are pretty hard to beat for functionality and price and my opinion is that a surprising number of new releases by other manufacturers is directly because they need to reclaim some market share.
What the new G42 will be exactly is up for speculation but they will likely sell like hotcakes simply because they are Glocks. I have shot virtually all of the various makers offerings at this point and even though I still am left cold by Glock ergonomics/aesthetics/trigger/safety features they absolutely rock in my hands and are the pistol to beat for my gun $ in a CCW pistol.
You have no idea how much it disturbs me to say that...but anything Glock offers in the way of new pistols will be snapped up by waiting consumers I do believe. I think there are more folks who are impressed with Glock functionality than many believe and that most other makers still consider Glocks offerings to be major if not the dominating competition.
VooDoo
My Glock 26 is a black plastic chunk and it leaves me cold *but* I have been converted to the dark side by the functionality and accuracy of the Glock. It is utterly reliable with any ammo I throw at it and accurate in rapid fire to the point of being the pistol to beat in our competitive search for our best shooting pistol.
The reason Glock is the pistol to emulate and beat/take market share from by other makers is because they work. Period. Glock Perfection? Hardly...but I think they are pretty hard to beat for functionality and price and my opinion is that a surprising number of new releases by other manufacturers is directly because they need to reclaim some market share.
What the new G42 will be exactly is up for speculation but they will likely sell like hotcakes simply because they are Glocks. I have shot virtually all of the various makers offerings at this point and even though I still am left cold by Glock ergonomics/aesthetics/trigger/safety features they absolutely rock in my hands and are the pistol to beat for my gun $ in a CCW pistol.
You have no idea how much it disturbs me to say that...but anything Glock offers in the way of new pistols will be snapped up by waiting consumers I do believe. I think there are more folks who are impressed with Glock functionality than many believe and that most other makers still consider Glocks offerings to be major if not the dominating competition.
VooDoo
There are people out there who treat Glocks like Pokemon - "gotta collect em all"
If Glock made Glock brand gun cleaner, and Glock brand gun lube - they'd make millions. I don't know why they haven't thought of it...
If Glock made toothpaste they'd make money on it because the Glock fan boys would rush out and buy it and post YouTube videos of themselves brushing their teeth with Glock toothpaste.
If Glock made Glock brand gun cleaner, and Glock brand gun lube - they'd make millions. I don't know why they haven't thought of it...
If Glock made toothpaste they'd make money on it because the Glock fan boys would rush out and buy it and post YouTube videos of themselves brushing their teeth with Glock toothpaste.
WinThePennant
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I buy Glocks for the same reason Vodoun buys them -- The dang things work and work and work. Other reasons include interchangeability of magazines and the ability to easily self-smith a Glock.
I primarily own 9mm Glocks. I did buy the wonderful Glock 29 (10mm) because everyone should have a 10mm, and it is capable of firing other calibers with quick switch of the barrel (.357 Sig, .40 S&W, and 9mm Dillon).
I primarily own 9mm Glocks. I did buy the wonderful Glock 29 (10mm) because everyone should have a 10mm, and it is capable of firing other calibers with quick switch of the barrel (.357 Sig, .40 S&W, and 9mm Dillon).
LiveLife
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How many 40S&W pistols do you know can become a 9mm pistol with a drop of a conversion barrel? It is one of many reasons why I went from G17/G19/G26 to G22/G23/G27.Zerodefect said:
M&P pistols have ambi slide lock and safety that are more friendly to left handed shooters. Even Gen4 Glocks still do not offer full ambi controls. More women are becoming police officers and different size back straps on M&Ps better accommodate smaller hands.
Now that Glock manufactures pistols in the USA, I think G41 and G42 are just the start of ongoing Glock progression now in the USA. Without importation restrictions, they are more free to produce pistols that better meet their customer wants and desires or face continued loss of market share, which Glock may not be concerned with at present but soon will in the future as products from their competition keep getting better and better.
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I haven't seen any indication that Glock will start making the forbidden .380s in the GA plant. Hopefully I am wrong on that though.
My main dislike of Glock is they are nothing spectacular out of the box. IF I bought a Glock, I would have to dump about $500 into one so that I would like it. First off being the sights, cannot stand the stock sights on a factory Glock. Most of the controls would need to be replaced for me as well. Second the ironclad reliability Glock is "known" for has been the exact opposite. I have had faulty magazine catches, improper made barrels, and FTEs on new Glocks fresh out of the box.
My main dislike of Glock is they are nothing spectacular out of the box. IF I bought a Glock, I would have to dump about $500 into one so that I would like it. First off being the sights, cannot stand the stock sights on a factory Glock. Most of the controls would need to be replaced for me as well. Second the ironclad reliability Glock is "known" for has been the exact opposite. I have had faulty magazine catches, improper made barrels, and FTEs on new Glocks fresh out of the box.
WinThePennant
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Well, you've had the WORST luck of any Glock owner out there. 99.9999% of all other Glock owners have had different luck.
A typical upgrade for a Gen 4 Glock is as follows (for me):
Meprolight night sights: $63 (Glockmeister)
Extended slide lock: $10 (Lone Wolf)
Extended slide stop: $13 (Lone Wolf)
That is the basic set up for all my Glocks. With shipping, you are looking at around $100. I have no idea how or why you'd have to dump $500 into a Glock just to get it up to snuff. That must be one helluva Glock once you're done with it.
At first I did some fooling around with the trigger, but decided that it wasn't really worth it. The "improvements" weren't that noticeable, and, besides, the Glock trigger is pretty good out of the box.
stogiegila
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Well I've had several G19s, G30SF and G26s. Never had a problem with any of them. I sold the 19s because I prefer the 26. I sold the G30s because I prefer 9mm over .45acp.
I like the G26, and over time have come to the conclusion that my preference for a EDC is a polymer striker fired gun. As much as I like the G26 it does tend to feel heavy and like a brick over time.
I recently picked up a Kahr CM9 which fits the bill nicely.
I for one would love to see Glock come out with a slimmer single stack G26. That would instantly become my EDC
The only upgrades I have ever done on any of my Glocks is either a Hogue rubber grip sleeve or a set of Talon Rubber grips
Make a slim single stack 9mm in a comparable size to a Kahr CM9 and I would be very very happy
I like the G26, and over time have come to the conclusion that my preference for a EDC is a polymer striker fired gun. As much as I like the G26 it does tend to feel heavy and like a brick over time.
I recently picked up a Kahr CM9 which fits the bill nicely.
I for one would love to see Glock come out with a slimmer single stack G26. That would instantly become my EDC
The only upgrades I have ever done on any of my Glocks is either a Hogue rubber grip sleeve or a set of Talon Rubber grips
Make a slim single stack 9mm in a comparable size to a Kahr CM9 and I would be very very happy
Yeah, the only $500 "upgrade" would be to buy another glock. Add a set nightsights of choice (agree, that the stock sights suck) and you're good to go. As far as reliability, I have 11 glocks, all gen 3 except a gen 2 G20 with over 10K rds and have never, NEVER, had a single failure. They all get shot regularly. Get cleaned whenever the mood strikes me, & they keep on shooting. I've got 6 HKs (3 USPs, 2 HK45s, & a P30) & 3 Sigs (220, 228 & 229). They all shoot just fine, are plenty reliable, but no more so than the glocks that cost 1/2 (or 2/3) less. You can bet that if the SHTF, & I can grab 1 pistol, it'll be the 20 yr old G20 & a whole bunch of Underwood Ammo.
Hometeached1
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Some people will say this is stupid, but I've always wanted a glock 25 or 28(don't forget a 18)! The thought of a single stack 9mm glock is kind of interesting, but don't think I will buy one any time soon.
Robbins290
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What happened to the glock 40? I thought the last one was model 39?
USAF_Vet
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Exactly what I was thinking.
Captains1911
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Riiiiiight. You do realize that glock talk represents a fraction of a percent of all glock owners right? You also understand that for every unhappy person having an issue with a gun, there's likely thousands of perfectly satisfied owners? Lastly, just due to the shear number of Glocks in existence, probabilities dictate that you will hear about more problems with them, but that does not at all mean that they are problematic at a higher percentage.
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