"New" M1 Garands?

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A bud of mine wants to buy his father an M1 Garand. His Dad is not well and has often talked about his Garand from the Korean War.

My bud isn't a real gun guy and I'm a bit hesitant to encourage him to buy a used one if he doesn't know what he's looking at buying.

I know Fulton Armory puts them together now, rather pricey it seems though.

Are there other options or reputable makers you guys would suggest?

I talked to him about the CMP program. However, his Dad has cancer and I'm afraid that time may be an issue here.

Thanks,
 
Dean's Gun Restorations

You could buy one straight up from DGR or you can send DGR a Garand you already have for a rebuild (either partial or complete).

Here's pics of a field grade that I sent to DGR for a new stock, barrel, and repark: http://www.ocabj.net/gallery/2513821_after_dgr

If you went with a rebuild from a gunsmith, odds are you will have to wait a bit since they are usually built to order, unless the smith happens to have rifles completed that no one has purchased, yet.

You can also check Scott Duff's site at http://www.scott-duff.com. He is the author of several respected books on Garands and he posts rifles for sale on his site. Expect to pay quite a bit for them since they are usually "collector grade" rifles (ie: verified original/correct, special variation, etc).
 
The Armory in Annapolis has several "old" Garands in stock.....I didn't look too closely since I'm not in the market right now, but I recall that they were around 600-650. A lot compared to CMP, but not as much as what others in the area are charging for CMP rifles. At least he could take it home right away.

Hope that helps!
 
A Service Grade Garand from the CMP is the way to go. Your buddy will get a "shooter" that will look and feel just like what was carried by millions of GI's in WWII and Korea (and it very well may have been carried in combat by a GI or Marine).

Go to the CMP website www.odcmp.com and look at the requirements for purchasing. Once the required paperwork is together, much of it can be faxed. Use a VISA card to pay for it and a rifle can be delivered to his doorstep in just a few weeks. Have him call the CMP (numbers are on the website) and explain the circumstances and they may find a way to rush the delivery.

If you or your buddy lives anywhere near Camp Perry OH, just go there and pick one up right off the rack and take it home.
 
A Service Grade Garand from the CMP is the way to go. Your buddy will get a "shooter" that will look and feel just like what was carried by millions of GI's in WWII and Korea (and it very well may have been carried in combat by a GI or Marine).
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The limitation here is that the original poster wants to be able to guarantee a "like new" rifle. While CMP Service Grades are usually in good condition, there's always a chance you'll get a dog, and there's also the chance that the rifle may need new parts (particularly springs).

Although, it may be worthy to get a Collectors Grade rifle from the CMP. The ones I've seen in person at last May's CMP Western Games were in excellent condition.
 
http://www.garandguy.com/

I had a good experience buying from Tony Giacobbe when I needed a Garand quickly two years ago for Camp Perry after mine was stolen.:cuss:

He buys excess parts from guys who buy their limit from CMP to piece together matching Garands. He then re-parkerizes, cleans up and builds a "new" M1.

You'll pay more than CMP, but get it faster.

You can also go to CMP in Ohio, select your own M1 directly and bring it home that day. Check out the requirements - which are reduced for Veterans.
 
The only way to really get a like new is to buy new.

Springfield Armory makes a pretty good Garand - at least the one I've got is pretty darn good.

I know, I know it ain't the real deal but unless one is really into the history and owning a rifle that was actually carried by a soldier then it ain't no big deal.

Furthermore - more blasphemy follows - I'd recommend getting one from SA chambered in .308. Surplus ammo is readily available and cheap. Surplus 30-06 is less available and is more expensive.

OK - all you purists out there can load up and take aim now. I'll be on the berm to your front left out around 200 yards or so. :neener:
 
Long...my thoughts on getting a Garand

Werewolf raises the big issue for me. I want an M1 Garand but remain uncertain whether to get a CMP (before they are gone...), another sourced "real" Garand, or a new Springfield. I understand the differences.

I have an Auto Ordnance M1 carbine, but I've added a GI stock. I love it. Functions great! Shoots just fine and is accurate enough for me...heck I'd easily rely on it for self defense when the distance is beyond my comfort with my pistols. Truth is, it's a fun gun at the range.

But...but...there is the psychological factor. It just ain't the real thing. Doesn't really matter in my everyday, civilian life. I can watch Band of Brothers and play out a bit of fantasy if that's important to me (no, I don't run around the house like a kid preteneding I'm shooting at Nazis :uhoh: ). But, there is this internal feeling that says, "Get the real thing. It will emote the legacy, the history..." So, this causes me to seek out a Garand that was issued, or at least pieces parts that were issued.

Of course, the Springfield will sure look pretty...and shoot just fine.... ;)
 
Surplus Korean .3006 is cheap and available in Garand clips and bandoleers. I got the non-corrosive PS headstamp stuff.
I guess .308 is probably a little cheaper for surplus.
 
Ohen Cepel --

I don't know how much "Brand New" means to you in this case, nor do I know your budget. BUT:

The CMP has over 50 brand new, unissued, in the wrap M1's. I mean these are as produced by the factory under goverment contract over 50 years ago -- just by happenstance they were never issued to ANYONE over the years.

They auctioned off 3 of them a couple of months ago, and if I recall correctly, the price was about $7,000 each, obviously a very desirable collectors item.

I don't know when the next auction for more of these might be, but you could always e-mail Orest Michaels at the CMP with your situation and he might give you a hint if you are interested in these.
 
"...before they are gone..." That won't be anytime soon.
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Sadly not true. They are already estimating they will be completely out of 03A3's in 6 months or less, they are out of just about anything but Greek returns and some Danes, and USGI FG's (no USGI SG for expample). They keep guessing about how much of a supply they have, and each time they do, the order volume goes up and the supply shrinks. Check their web-site periodically and you will see "SOLD OUT" being put up for more and more grades all the time. I don't expect them to have much left in say, 18 months time. (that is my own WAG by the way.)

I think about that time, everything they DO have left will be put up on auction and the old days of relatively inexpensive M1's will be gone forever.
 
I think the best indication that the CMP's end-of-supply is at least on the horizon is the fact that commerical producers are starting to manufacture M1 receivers and whole rifles. Yes, I know that this has been going on for some time, but recently it seems that the makers are taking some extra effort to get their name out there, position themselves well in the market, and start to work out manufacturing kinks.

Think of it as the relief pitcher warming up in the bullpen.

While it is sad to see the CMP finally starting to near its end, it is very nice to know that the M1 is not, by any stretch of the imagination, a thing of the past.

Mike
 
I think inthis case a new Garand from SA would be the best way to go.
And while it wasn't ever used in combat it is made by the same company who made those.
 
nfl1990 said:
I think inthis case a new Garand from SA would be the best way to go.
And while it wasn't ever used in combat it is made by the same company who made those.
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong but the Springfield Armory was a government owned/run facility. I believe it closed in the 60s or 70s. The current Springfield Armory, a private commercial company, just bought the rights to the name.
 
Springfield Armory in Geneseo, Illinois is not The Springfield Armory.

On a chill Spring morning in 1968, amid speeches and farewell addresses, the men and women of Springfield Armory bid each other goodbye as the ‘Stars and Stripes’ were lowered for the last time. After nearly two centuries of continuous production of rifles and muskets used by America’s armed forces in every war in the nation’s history, the armory closed its gates and fell silent.
Begun as a major arsenal under the authority of General George Washington early in the Revolutionary War, the first national armory began manufacturing muskets in 1794. Within decades, Springfield Armory had perfected pioneering manufacturing methods that were critical to American industrialization.

Reopened in 1978 as the Springfield Armory National Historic Site, the original 1840’s arsenal houses the world’s largest collection of American military firearms. Year-round public programs, exhibits, and special events are hosted on the grounds of the National Historic Landmark.

http://www.nps.gov/spar/history.html
 
I'd look into CMP. My Dad helped me order one for him/me(?) a few years ago under the WWII vet's discount they had on (I think they were $350). They are, as noted, the real McCoy. All it needed was some boiled linseed oil and it came up looking very GI and quite nice. I shot it for a while this winter while rebarrelling my usual M1 shooter, and it did fine. My dad passed away this year at 93, and the rifle is earmarked for my son (when he gets a decent gun safe).

There is just something about the genuine article that clones will never have. I have an M1A (M14 clone) that I like a lot but it hasn't been carried in harm's way by an American soldier.

You might say that it's just a really meaningful way of remembering.
 
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