New Mexico Drops Numerous States From Handgunlaw.us

[heeler]

And to think just three weeks ago I went through some pains in this very forum asking about certain restrictions of N.M.'s concealed handgun laws pertaining to restaruants that might serve liquor but were not required to post that it was off limits to conceal carry.
This Texan had a great one week trip there and spent at least $650.00 in that state and was concealed carrying the entire time and now two weeks later I see I am no longer legal to do so there.
What a crock!!
This is most distressing to see that state move in that direction.

 

[buckhorn_cortez]

Hopefully, this is the first step in getting a law through the legislature that makes more sense than the current version. The original law (2004) required you to shoot with every gun you wanted to use for concealed carry. That got changed to revolver / semi-auto in the largest caliber you wanted to carry which automatically qualified you to carry anything smaller.

The Governor of NM has a concealed carry permit. She understands people wanting concealed carry permists. By strictly interpreting the law, this points out how restrictive it is in reciprocity for NM citizens traveling to other states. Much like changing the original law to something reasonable, this may be the step needed to get a new bill through the legislature that will change the reciprocity requirements with other states. Tough in the short term, but may work out better in the long term.

I've already made my state senator and representative aware of my problem with this interpretation of the law and am hoping to get the NRA to assist in getting this changed.

 

[buckhorn_cortez]

The whole state is/was kind of run on the good old boy network and was the most corrupt place I ever lived.

Obviously, you've never lived in either Chicago or New Jersey...

It is the western version of the stereotypical deep southern Democrat government and this play is just them getting things back into sync.

Uhh..huh..okay. 'Splain this one to me - the Governor, Lieutenant Governor, and all of the Department heads appointed by the Governor are Republicans...

As a Texan that visits NM a lot, that is too bad. I will have to rethink my vacation plans to NM until they rectify this problem. I try to vote with my money and support CHL friendly states if at all possible.

That's fine by me...maybe now I won't have to fight my way through the Texans to get to a trout stream. I've always wondered, if Texas is the place to be...why do you all come to NM for vacations?

 

[heeler]

The state could possibly lose a lot of money pushing this issue.
I no longer visit California due to their extreme views on conceal carry.
I would certainly hate to stop visiting New Mexico twice a year like I do and each time the duration is a full week.
But if they persist then the 164 mile drive through the state via I-10 from the Texas border to the Arizona border will be the order of the day.

 

[X-Rap]

Uhh..huh..okay. 'Splain this one to me - the Governor, Lieutenant Governor, and all of the Department heads appointed by the Governor are Republicans...

I'm talking about County Sheriffs, Municipal Judges, and city Police Chiefs.
I have never lived in Chicago of Jersey so I may not know real corruption and by stereotypical I mean just that (as in fitting certain patterns) it's behavior not party affiliation.
NM passed a lousy law and then didn't follow what it said, now they are walking it back in what is the worst retraction of reciprocity in gun permit history. Many people screwed up to end up with this many states being dropped but in the end I'm still saying it's politics.

 

[Johannes_Paulsen]

Uhh..huh..okay. 'Splain this one to me - the Governor, Lieutenant Governor, and all of the Department heads appointed by the Governor are Republicans...

Well, Ronald Reagan was a Republican, and that didn't stop him from signing some pretty bad gun control legislation as Governor of California. (Or supporting the Bradys in the 1990s.)

I hear tell that Mike Bloomberg used to be a Republican, too.

 

[dodo bird]

Obviously, you've never lived in either Chicago or New Jersey...



Uhh..huh..okay. 'Splain this one to me - the Governor, Lieutenant Governor, and all of the Department heads appointed by the Governor are Republicans...



That's fine by me...maybe now I won't have to fight my way through the Texans to get to a trout stream. I've always wondered, if Texas is the place to be...why do you all come to NM for vacations?

Not very thr. I sure you wont appreciate when tx takes away your right to carry there. We are all in this together.

 

[MrM4]

This is a states rights issue, they have every legal right to do it no matter how much we dislike it. I think its a step in the wrong direction but aside from those who live in NM raising a fuss over it to try and get it changed Im not sure what those of us who live in other state can do?

 

[Johannes_Paulsen]

@MrM4: Most we can do is not visit the state, spend our money elsewhere, and make it clear why we're doing that.

A cash donation to RKBA organizations in NM trying to change the law might be helpful too. Any suggestions?

 

[heeler]

It's my hope that cooler heads will prevail and revisit this issue and reverse it.

 

[JRH6856]

A cash donation to RKBA organizations in NM trying to change the law might be helpful too. Any suggestions?

Since any state's CCW law can have affect on interstate commerce, the US Congress has the authority under the Commerce clause to address this issue. You could write your Congressman.

OTOH, if you think it best that Congress not get involved, perhaps it might be best to let the laws in any state be determined by the citizens of that state without outside intervention.

 

[elrowe]

Thanks New Mexico, anyone have good suggestions on where a Kentucky guy can find a more welcoming state for my pronghorn hunt? Sadly, my parents live in NM too. They'll miss me.

No fingerprint-based background check - nope, but we (KY) NICS checks everyone every month, why add our prints to a database when we committed no crime?
Permits issued to persons under 21 years of age - nope, but they can vote and die defending everyone else's freedom... (sadly KY has the same restriction)
Permits issued to resident aliens - yep, why not, what law did they break to disqualify? Discrimination?

 

[Art Eatman]

See update:

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=657331