New Mike Beliveau video about Paterson Colt

[BullRunBear]

I'm a fan of Mike Beliveau's YouTube (under Duelist1954) videos and his latest about the Colt Paterson revolver is excellent. Many of us know the basic story but Mike provided a lot more info about Sam Colt the person and his other innovations than is generally used. He also gave a good demonstration of how to load and fire the Paterson, its mechanical and ergonomic downsides and history.

Just FYI. I think it is worth watching.

Jeff

 

[LaneP]

Watched that video not that long ago. I remember when DGW was stocking them but that's been quite a while back. I wouldn't mind getting one some day, not so much as a shooter but for what it represented in its day.

 

[Jimster]

C’mon. You posted a thread without a gratuitous link. Now I have to actually work for it.

 

[hawg]

He's not the know all on bp revolvers. He does make mistakes and gets things wrong.

 

[Malachi Leviticus Blue]

So Mike is human then?
He's not the only one I've seen post here that is less than perfect, but he does a great job regardless.

 

[Ephraim Kibbey]

Quick chronology of Italian Paterson reproductions:
1. Original design was manufactured by Mainardi Official Fabricators of Replica Arms.
.....Marked MOFRA on the underside of the barrel.
.....Early 1960's through 1970/71 imported by Replica Arms of Marietta, Ohio and Navy Arms after they bought out RA.
2. Same model manufactured by Euromanufacture which was owned by the Mainardi of MOFRA and his brother.
.....Marked with two interlocking diamonds (for the two Mainardi brothers) usually on the underside of the barrel but may be found on the butt strap.
.....1971 through 1980/1981 imported by Navy Arms among others.
3. Same model POSSIBLY manufactured by Palmetto although I personally have not seen one of these.
.....Marked with a palm tree I assume.
.....1981 Palmetto bought Euromanufacture and was then bought later by Euroarms.
.....I do not believe that Euroarms ever manufactured this model.
4. Pietta manufactured the "Texas Paterson" which varied slightly from the other designs.
.....Marked "Texas Paterson" on top of the barrel and "FAP" or Pietta on the side of the barrel or the butt strap.
.....1969 through recent times.
5. Uberti manufactured both a model with out a loading lever in several barrel lengths as well as a model with a loading lever.
.....Marked either with Uberti's name or the "U" inside of a gun muzzle logo.
.....Also found marked with various Gun Collector Society logos.
.....1988 until they recently stopped production.
6. Colt Blackpowder Arms using Uberti supplied parts assembled first a gold trimmed engraved model and later a blued model.
.....1998 through 2002 as Signature Colts or "Third Generation" Colts.
.....Marked as Colts usually are.

References:
1. https://www.tactical-life.com/firearms/handguns/colt-paterson-reproductions/
2. bp revolver/Dr. Jim Davis post #18 - https://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/threads/paterson.63623/

 

[Jackrabbit1957]

I've only worked on one, the design is somewhat peculiar. The only thing a tuner can do is correct the arbor and timing and maybe tweak the springs. The complex design is difficult to work with and I am not surprised it didn't last long.

 

[noelf2]

So Mike is human then?
He's not the only one I've seen post here that is less than perfect, but he does a great job regardless.

Heck of a nice fellow too. I spoke with him for a while at a colonial festival a few years back.

 

[Navy Six 2]

I always saw Mike Beliveau's material, whether written or video, as a long step in the right direction in regards to cap & ball pistols.

 

[hawg]

So Mike is human then?
He's not the only one I've seen post here that is less than perfect, but he does a great job regardless.

I'm not saying he doesn't. I'm just saying everything that comes out of his mouth isn't fact. Lord knows I've made my share of mistakes.

 

[Eyrie G. Dogg]

Welp, he missed the x-ring when discussing the 'ship's wheel'. The wheel operates the rudder by rope/cable and pully. What young Sam was watching while on board the ship was the capstan (racheted winch) used to raise the anchor.

Good vid.

 

[JCooperfan1911]

Pretty guns that drip in lore n’ legend.

But user friendly?

Not so!

I’ll stick with the later rendition of the design in the form of Colonel Colt’s Revolving Belt Pistol of Naval Caliber for my shooting needs.

 

[JamesSh@@ter]

C’mon. You posted a thread without a gratuitous link. Now I have to actually work for it.

Interesting video, but needs a part #2 and maybe #3

 

[1KPerDay]

Here’s my Paterson video for any interested. Mr. Beliveau is a much better on-camera personality

I’m sure I got some of the history wrong as well.

 

[ColonelTravis]

Never fired one, I understand they aren't that great. Nonetheless, as a history and Colt buff I want one of these. I emailed Pietta to ask if they were making them and was told: "Not at the moment."

Not sure when they'll restart production again.

 

[Ephraim Kibbey]

Nonetheless, as a history and Colt buff I want one of these.

You just missed this one on GunBroker.
He listed it as Euroarms but it has Euromanufacture's double diamond logo:
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/935170736
Scarcity has sure upped their price!
They show up on the auction sites every so often.

 

[JCooperfan1911]

Paterson repros have become very sought after. They make an excellent conversation piece for sure.

 

[Ephraim Kibbey]

Here is one:
https://www.proxibid.com/Guns-Milit...ion-Revolver/lotInformation/68673420#topoflot

 

[ColonelTravis]

I'll let the high rollers take the originals! Need to check gunbroker more often.

 

[Ephraim Kibbey]

Need to check gunbroker more often

Set up a search for it and set it for "new since last visit."
Then save the search.
Actually you will need two searches because so many sellers misspell "Paterson" as "Patterson!"
Every time you check it, you will just be seeing the new stuff.
If you see something you are interested in, click "watch" to be able to find it quickly.
I run a search for "Black Powder" every day!
Sometimes twice a day, if truth be told.
It doesn't cost anything to window shop.
Good Luck!

 

[Ugly Sauce]

The Pat was more of a novelty when introduced. Not so practical. Maybe something for a rich guy to carry in a shoulder holster with the barrel cut down to three or four inches. Super Bling. BBQ gun! What is interesting to me is how it evolved into some of the greatest pistols of all time.

 

[Ugly Sauce]

Here’s my Paterson video for any interested. Mr. Beliveau is a much better on-camera personality

I’m sure I got some of the history wrong as well.

I'm probably not the only one to notice that when you had three miss-fires in a row, there was a spent cap sitting on the underside of the hammer. !!! However, she popped off pretty good! I'm still thinking it would be best served as a snubby. A "Gentleman's" pocket pistol.

 

[1KPerDay]

I'm probably not the only one to notice that when you had three miss-fires in a row, there was a spent cap sitting on the underside of the hammer. !!! However, she popped off pretty good! I'm still thinking it would be best served as a snubby. A "Gentleman's" pocket pistol.

Yep, the spent cap is clearly visible sitting on the hammer LOL. "Why won't this thing go off?"

 

[Ugly Sauce]

I hate it when that happens.