New Orleans Police shoot, kill man

[CGofMP]

The LEO escalated the situation by closing in on the guy until he had nowhere to go but forward,

Uhm... with all due respect, the JOB of LEO is to close in on people who are impolite enough to offer a deadly threat to the public or other officers. Real sorry if it escelates the situation.

By this measure the cops should NEVER make contact with suspects as almost every time there is a few seconds where things can and do go either way. Sometimes the LEOs presence diffuses the situation and sometimes the presence of an authority figure makes things worse for a few minutes.

When things get worse someone can get hurt.. that is just the way things play out.

Again, the only option you then leave open for the cops is to let the people that show a tendency to escelate walk.

We are not dealing with children refusing to go to time-out here... we are dealing with a suspect who has violent tendencies and is exhibiting the clear and present potential of using them at the point of a knife.

Some people's idea of knife wielding suspects are not exactly in keeping with reality.

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[Powderman]

basic training in the Armed Forces has a similiar test which each recruit private, myself included, was trained to deal with. We did, without arms of any kind!

And may I ask what training this was?

The training I received (1977-1992) in AIT, and my first duty station (Infantryman, Republic of Korea) taught me how to counter an enemy armed with a knife and how to maim or kill them immediately. Where does "disarming" of this nature fall into the force continuum that law enforcement officers are trained in?

I was among their ranks in a limited capacity 20 years ago in another state...

What limited capacity was that?

An LEO who, when faced with a deadly force situation, will fire deliberately at a subject's legs to "disable" them will face a review board and disciplinary action.

From the initial firearms training in the Academy, police officers are taught to fire center of mass until the threat stops.

Also, as someone else said, remember that when you contact a hostile suspect, there is always one gun present--YOURS. Why give the perp the chance to kill you?

 

[Baba Louie]

Excellent self control by those NOPD involved. Gave him EVERY CHANCE possible to comply. DROP THE WEAPON! Gave him more chances. PUT DOWN THE KNIFE! Gave him more chances. Backed him up almost a block (How'd you like to be the cameraman filming all that? Pucker factor way up...) Still, He would not comply.

Life can suck when you're mentally ill, agitated, armed and non-compliant;
6'2", 250#, OC'd (to no effect) and a very real threat to Citizens living/working on St. Charles Ave. surrounded by Cops with guns drawn and aimed at you.

Maybe LEO's should start carrying bullwhips and lasso's to disarm and immobilize bad guys. Works in the movies anyway Oh yeah, this is REAL LIFE, not the movies. Where's Lash LaRue and Roy Rogers when you need them?

Glad all the LEO got off that shift alive and uninjured. Too bad they had to shoot him. I'd bet they really didn't want to have to do that the day after Christmas, or any day really.

Good shoot.

 

[kel]

Good shoot

And that means alot coming from me...

He said the man then walked toward an officer, who backed out of the way to avoid being stabbed in the chest.

 

[jsalcedo]

Marlin Perkins could have taken him down, taken a picture with him and installed a radio collar without even getting a scratch.

 

[carebear]

Marlin Perkins could have taken him down, taken a picture with him and installed a radio collar without even getting a scratch.

Nah, Marlin would have just done the play-by-play. Jim Fowler or Stan Brock would have done the actual takedown.

 

[migoi]

I seem to remember..

ole Jim was the one out on the pointy end of things most of the time...

migoi

 

[proud2deviate]

I own several three inch pocket knives and I don't want any of them stuck in my liver and wiggled around. In fact, I imagine I'd shoot a person multiple times to prevent such an occurance.

I say good shoot on this one.