NEW Ruger Mark IV

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This is another time when I'm seized with an uncontrollable urge NOT to run out and buy the latest new development in firearms.

I'll stick with my heavy barrel MKII with tuned trigger until I hear a LOT more about this gun from actual users.
 
AZAndy said:
Fresh info, straight from the website! Yep, the upper pivots on that pin.

Since it's a semi-auto, it's probably made in my town. Maybe that means I can buy one.

Davidson's is showing the MSRP for 5.5" blued at 529, 5.5" stainless at 689, and the 6.9" in the original post at 769. None available for order yet.
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That's getting high enough I'd start looking at a S&W Mod 41.
 
Barrel swap options will start showing up soon and be much easier.

Put a normal grip angle and they may have a winner.... or at least something that competes better with the Buckmark ;)


I wonder if they've been sandbagging this until after the S&W Victory came out to make the final tweaks and then release?
 
Changes:
_ one-piece fully machined grip frame
_ simplified push button/hinged frame take-town
_ improved bolt stop lever
_ ambidextrous manual safety
_ drop-free magazine release.
Removed:
_ loaded chamber indicator
Retained:
_ Ruger Mark IV magazines are indentical to Mark III magazines
_ Ruger Mark IV pistol is equipped with a magazine disconnect.

Too bad my Mark II bought 1987 is barely broken in, is accurate and reliable, and seems to have a lot of life left in it after 1000s of rounds or I might be interested in the new Mark.

I hope when a newer more improved Ruger mark comes out, proud owners of Mark IVs will say the same.
 
Acera said:
Are you guys sure they have taken the magazine disconnect off???

I just don't see a major manufacturer taking any so called safety feature off guns these days.




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Ever hear of the Ruger LC9sPro? No safety or mag disconnect. A revelation.
 
Tam has a review:

http://booksbikesboomsticks.blogspot.com/2016/09/day-at-officewith-secret-ruger.html

I almost bought a used 22/45 Lite last week (got sold before I got a chance). I take down the Mark II so rarely I do need to be reminded how to put it back together. No big deal with the Mark II, the Mark III mag disconnect would get removed pretty quickly at our house. I may be looking at a Mark IV when the 22/45 hits the shelves, assuming the mag disconnect is gone or easy to remove.
 
The Ruger takedown/reassembly is pretty straightforward and has never been a problem for me. I disassemble it once every 10,000 rounds whether it needs it or not. :)
 
I think this is the S&W Victory's worst nightmare! I actually thought of getting the Victory but didn't quite like the way it looks. This thing looks stunning to me. I see a lot of used MK III's for sale in the near future too.
 
helitack32f1 said:
I think this is the S&W Victory's worst nightmare! I actually thought of getting the Victory but didn't quite like the way it looks. This thing looks stunning to me. I see a lot of used MK III's for sale in the near future too.
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Street price on the Mk IV is going to be $150-$200 more than the Victory.


I stick with my Mk II or 22/45 MK III pistols. I've got a bunch of them and they all work just fine.

IMHO S&W made one mistake with the Victory. If they could have made it so it took Ruger mags it would have been great.
 
This just made my "to get" list.

While the Mark III is a pain, it is FAR easier if you remove the magazine disconnect with the Tandemkross busing.
 
If they went back to making the MKII I would be interested. Have a target model that's extremely accurate. The takedown isn't that hard. It's not like this is 1975 and the internet doesn't exist. It's easy to find the instructions on how to take it down and put it back together. Everyone wants things to be simple these days. Take apart a CZ 75 trigger and get back to me on how difficult taking down a Ruger is ;)
 
dragon813gt said:
Everyone wants things to be simple these days.
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I think most of us would simply like a rimfire gun to come apart for cleaning as easily as most centerfire guns.

I'm a field service tech and the biggest reason I like simple-to-clean guns is that I don't want my hobbies to seem like work. Same reason I'd rather not repair my own cars on my days off, even though I have to. :D

My shooting buddy, that is a fellow field tech with the same company, bought a MKIII a few years ago and that thing sure shoots well. Then when we go home and sit at the table cleaning guns together, I swear it takes both of us to re-figure how in the heck it went back together from the last time he had it apart.

I admit, I passed on a Ruger MKII back in the day and a Ruger MKIII just a few years ago for other guns. If this MKIV takedown feature would have been included in the MKIII, well . . . I'd own a MKIII. :)
 
beag_nut said:
Ever hear of the Ruger LC9sPro? No safety or mag disconnect. A revelation.
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Did they ever have one on there? I was surprised when folks were implying that they had taken it off. Come to find out, they had not. Like I said, just don't see a manufacturer taking a safety off a new model. I understand if it was never there..............

BTW, my carry gun does not have those things either, nor does it have sights!



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JN01

Mistake #2: It's butt ugly.
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I wouldn't go quite that far but I'm just not all that crazy about how far back the barrel sets on the frame. It looks out of proportion to the rest of the gun. I do think the Volquartsen I-Fluted barrel dresses things up (a set of custom grips would help too), and improves it's looks rather nicely but the cost of the barrel alone is almost like the price of another gun.

I definitely like the looks and the new design features of the Mk.IV (have always thought my Model 512 Mk.II was one the nicest looking .22s target pistols around), but I believe I will wait and see how things go with this new model before I make a decision about whether or not I should add one to the fold.
 
I believe I will wait and see how things go with this new model before I make a decision about whether or not I should add one to the fold.
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You and me both.

I have a standard MKII, to which I added a 5 1/2" heavy barrel, target sights and a top notch trigger job. That's going to be a hard gun to beat.
 
Vern Humphrey

I feel the exact same way about my Mk.II; with it's great trigger and top-notch accuracy, it's going to be a tough act to follow.

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chicharrones said:
I think most of us would simply like a rimfire gun to come apart for cleaning as easily as most centerfire guns.
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Buy a Beretta U22 NEOS if you want one that's simple to take down. Mine happens to shoot just as well as the MKII. It's also not as picky about ammo. I understand why people want things to be simpler. It's why I own Marlin instead of Winchester levers. But I don't see the takedown of a MKII/III to be difficult.
 
chicharrones said:
I think most of us would simply like a rimfire gun to come apart for cleaning as easily as most centerfire guns.

I'm a field service tech and the biggest reason I like simple-to-clean guns is that I don't want my hobbies to seem like work. Same reason I'd rather not repair my own cars on my days off, even though I have to. :D

My shooting buddy, that is a fellow field tech with the same company, bought a MKIII a few years ago and that thing sure shoots well. Then when we go home and sit at the table cleaning guns together, I swear it takes both of us to re-figure how in the heck it went back together from the last time he had it apart.

I admit, I passed on a Ruger MKII back in the day and a Ruger MKIII just a few years ago for other guns. If this MKIV takedown feature would have been included in the MKIII, well . . . I'd own a MKIII. :)
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Majestic Arms makes a kit that you can install on a MK II, III to really make it easy to take down and reassemble.

http://www.majesticarms.com/id10.html
 
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