NIGHTLORD40K
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Hideous. No thanks.
Bazoo
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1:20 twist rate!
ECVMatt
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I was pretty fired up by the ROT as well! It looks like S&W did their homework on this one and came up with a pretty neat little rifle.1:20 twist rate!
WestKentucky
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Wonder why no +p
Gordon
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Should have made it in .460 S&W Mag , being they designed it from scratch. Make it to function with .45 Colt and .454 and .460 S&W Mag. Now that would be something.
someguy2800
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I didn’t see that coming. The name is, uh, creative…
I’m thinking on a 16” 44 mag threaded lever gun as a suppressor host.
I’m thinking on a 16” 44 mag threaded lever gun as a suppressor host.
Dan Forrester
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I’ve been waiting for a lever action like this. I can safely shoot in my back yard as much as I want as long as I keep it quiet. Been shooting my suppressed Ruger 77/357 for years now and reloading a ton of .357/.38 special but have been wanting a lever action. When they start making this in .357 I will probably pick one up.
Things I like:
Dan
Things I like:
- Fully stainless steel construction. This is a must have for me here in Florida.
- Threaded barrel. Hopefully the .357 mag version will have 5/8x24 threads like the Henry guns have.
- Picatinny rail. This will be great for mounting a red dot.
- Cross bolt safety. I can overlook this. It’s better than the Hillary Hole.
- Removable mag tube. Just another thing to check to make sure it’s staying tight. Looks too easy to remove. I could see pulling the trigger and watching the mag tube along with your remaining un-fired cartridges go flying down range along with the bullet you just pulled the trigger on.
- Large loop lever. This part is totally useless to me. I don’t even own a pair of gloves. We haven’t even made it down below 50 degrees yet this winter. My shooting attire consists of a full brim hat, sunglasses, no shirt and a bathing suit.
Dan
eastbank
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chicharrones
needs more ammo
I was flipping through the current Marlin Manual and the only + P it mentions is .38 special. Which makes me wonder, is +P magnum ammo a common thing?
someguy2800
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1:20 twist rate!
that is a good thing but 11/16 threading is a bummer for me. My 44 can is 5/8 direct thread.
BreechFace
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I’ll keep an eye out on their chamberings. I don’t have any interest in 44Mag but a 454 Casul or 460 S&W (already have projectiles for .452) would get me interested. Especially since it’s threaded, be fun to play around with as a suppressor host.
I’m liking this focus on levers we are seeing and the modern improvements such as threaded barrel and scope mounting options (for LPVO) are a welcomed improvement. The MLOK rail at the end of the handguard is a nice touch without too much distraction.
I too, can look past the cross bolt safety, it is much better than the Rossi safety that sits on top of back of the receiver.
I’m liking this focus on levers we are seeing and the modern improvements such as threaded barrel and scope mounting options (for LPVO) are a welcomed improvement. The MLOK rail at the end of the handguard is a nice touch without too much distraction.
I too, can look past the cross bolt safety, it is much better than the Rossi safety that sits on top of back of the receiver.
Exactly my thoughts! It is an option for the 44 lever gun that I've been interested in lately, not sure if I want to spend that kind of $$$ on it though!
CraigC
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There's some weird stuff I don't like, like the big loop, funky triggerguard and straight trigger. At least they got the twist right. It's interesting but doesn't make my dobber quiver.
I had to get a weird adapter to put a can on my Ruger .450.
MachIVshooter
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That was the first thing I noticed, appears to be nothing more than a truncated 336 receiver.
Not a bad looking gun in wood if you lose the ugly rail.
I still prefer square bolt Marlins, though. I don't dislike my 336, but there's a reason I have just one of those and four 1893s.
I was personally fond of the bulge in the neck.
Speedo66
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Don’t make those lever actions too tacticool looking or they’ll ban those too.
You know it’s looks that count.
You know it’s looks that count.
halfmoonclip
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Yeah, we had this conversation on another thread. I'm a little irritated with using the date for the Volcanic, considering no connection between that design and this one.
I thought the 336 was the larger, rifle caliber receiver? One of my pet peeves; had a '94 Winchester in .45 Colt; it was like a pair of shoes too big for my feet. The '92 is smaller, smoother, and pistol-caliber sized, as it always was.
Oh, yeah, that '94 had the obnoxious crossbolt safety too.
Simply because I like Smith, I wish them luck with this.
Moon
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Nope. They can be "fixed". But, yeah, guess we got to get used to the look. But as long as I have my JM Marlin, and my Rossi 92, they may do as they wish. Not in the market for another lever gun. (I'm kind of liking the Henry 410 lever gun though, and I don't think it has the cross-bolt safety. Not sure. ?)
.45Coltguy
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Sauce, the Henry 410 lever rifle does not have a CBS. At least not on their website.
dranrab
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Are you finding that the name and/or alpha numeric designation of other guns is historically significant. Ruger Model 77? Ruger SP101? Christensen Mesa?
There is a connection between that one and this one. They are both Smith and Wesson lever guns. Is there a connection between the Volcanic and a volcano? If not, then that's something to foot stomp over.
mgmorden
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If they're going to do a lever gun with a polymer stock, I think they did it in a tasteful way. Enough to look modern without looking stupid and tacticool. Personally I have no interest (at least not at this price - to me I'd be willing to pay $500 for such a rifle and no more, but I don't think they can make them for that much anymore).
MachIVshooter
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It is, the smaller of the modern round bolt receivers for .30-30, .35 Rem and similar, successor of the 36 which in turn succeeded the 1893. The 1895 is the grown-up round bolt for .45-70. .444. etc. 1894 is the square bolt compact receiver for pistol caliber rounds that really hasn't changed in 130 years except the cross bolt safety.
MachIVshooter
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If they did in fact copy the internals of the 336 and just shortened it up, it would be a bit stronger action than the 1894. Not that there are issues with .44 mag 1894s, but that's about the limit of the action, so not a good candidate for tinkering with hotter stuff like .454 Casull.
