Funny, that was something i JUST thought about...that would make a really cool plinking round. Probably wont work in my gun with the ports tho. I may have to get a spare gas tube to try just that!
New SKS project.
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GunnyUSMC
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For range work it makes finding brass easy. I tried xtps because I have a nagant pistol that uses them and I was bored. The 4227 was given to me by a friend who sold his 44mag.
Berry's makes a plated bullet for AK/SKS. I've never had accuracy issues with their handgun or rifle bullets.
Gunny, at this point im not surprised at anything youve got in your shop anymore LOLYou never know what an old Gunny has laying around his shop.
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Ive got a fair pile of random magnum pistol powder from my experiments with the .458 socom, .357, and .44, so I may just give it a try. I dont have any XTPs right now, but figure they and other soft point pistol bullets are pretty cheap.
Ive seen the plated bullets from Berrys, but since 90% of my shooting is done on public hunting land, im required to use "expanding" rounds, plated and cast dont count till they get to .429dia.
wally
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Some of my SKS collection, other than the pair of "Bubba's" I don't shoot them much other than making sure they worked after I first got them.
I got them all when they were really cheap $75-175, the most expensive was the SKS-D full size that takes AK mags.
The Bubba with the scope mount came with a M-N type mount and the wood stock inletted for it which I still have, so the only change not easily reversible is that the wood gas tube cover ended up being destroyed removing it to install the plastic one that came with the stock. I gave a massive ~$40 premium for it over the basic $75 SKS of the era, never saw another with that mount or those mounts offered for sale.
I got them all when they were really cheap $75-175, the most expensive was the SKS-D full size that takes AK mags.
The Bubba with the scope mount came with a M-N type mount and the wood stock inletted for it which I still have, so the only change not easily reversible is that the wood gas tube cover ended up being destroyed removing it to install the plastic one that came with the stock. I gave a massive ~$40 premium for it over the basic $75 SKS of the era, never saw another with that mount or those mounts offered for sale.
Got my box in from Brownells today, promag 5 round magazine, and Wolff reduced power spring kit.
I much prefer the look of the sks with the shorter mag, it handles nicer also.
Gunny was nice enough to offer to sell me that fixed, flush fit, 5rounder he has pictured up there, so that will be getting added to the mix. Probably install that and just keep it in the gun. Only having 5 shots at a time isn't much of a hinderance.
I installed the wolff springs, then decided to do a video of the pull weights after the fact. The first one is of both the hammer and sear springs, the second just the sear.
I'm lazy, and already put the bag of parts away, or I'd put the factory sear spring in and do that too. I THINK it broke at about 5lbs, but now that I've thought about it I could be remembering the 700 I just got as well. If any one is REALLY curious I'll go take the gun apart and find out.
Trigger pull videos
I much prefer the look of the sks with the shorter mag, it handles nicer also.
Gunny was nice enough to offer to sell me that fixed, flush fit, 5rounder he has pictured up there, so that will be getting added to the mix. Probably install that and just keep it in the gun. Only having 5 shots at a time isn't much of a hinderance.
I installed the wolff springs, then decided to do a video of the pull weights after the fact. The first one is of both the hammer and sear springs, the second just the sear.
I'm lazy, and already put the bag of parts away, or I'd put the factory sear spring in and do that too. I THINK it broke at about 5lbs, but now that I've thought about it I could be remembering the 700 I just got as well. If any one is REALLY curious I'll go take the gun apart and find out.
Trigger pull videos
Speedo66
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How does the metal 20 round star magazine work for you? I bought a group of SKS stuff a while back and one of those mags came in it, just haven’t tried it yet.Some of my SKS collection, other than the pair of "Bubba's" I don't shoot them much other than making sure they worked after I first got them.
I got them all when they were really cheap $75-175, the most expensive was the SKS-D full size that takes AK mags.
The Bubba with the scope mount came with a M-N type mount and the wood stock inletted for it which I still have, so the only change not easily reversible is that the wood gas tube cover ended up being destroyed removing it to install the plastic one that came with the stock. I gave a massive ~$40 premium for it over the basic $75 SKS of the era, never saw another with that mount or those mounts offered for sale.
wally
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My recollection is that it didn't feed 100% in all of the SKS I tried it in so I never bought any more of them back when they were common, but it does work in this one that I left it in. My biggest issue is loading it, the first stripper is just like a normal SKS, loading the second can give you "SKS thumb" if you aren't careful inserting it
chicharrones
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Nice trigger work. Mine's not even close to that.
How much creep in yours until the trigger breaks?
Ill try measure it, but I'd guess about a tenth? It's long enough I keep thinking about taking it back to the belt sander, but short enough that I'm comfortable with it.
I really should have masured how much I took off the sear, it was quite a bit tho probably 1/2 the length of the contact surface.
mokin
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Nice rifle. I like the stock. Please be sure to let us know how the sights work out.
22250Rem
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+1........ That stock is beautiful; along with that rear sight. I could use something like that. Here's the hi-viz front sight on my "beater" SKS that was mentioned in my previous post. I forgot who makes them, as I bought it about five years ago. ( possibly TAPCO ?? ).
I'd love to have a nice rear peep sight to frame that orange front sight in. That would make a real nice sight picture.
I'd love to have a nice rear peep sight to frame that orange front sight in. That would make a real nice sight picture.
GunnyUSMC
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Be careful. I remember back when SKS’s were cheap and parts were easy to get, there were a lot of people doing their own trigger jobs. Some of these guns went full auto after after a few hundred rounds. This was due to removing to much metal. Heat treating only goes so deep. Once the heat treated surface is removed, you have soft metal that will wear faster.
When I did my trigger job, I had a friend that made knives re-heat treat the parts.
Now days the home trigger jobs that people are having trouble with are with their AR’s.
Good reminder Gunny!
I'll be keeping an eye on it, I've seen sear engagements ware over time, (sometimes surprisingly little time if the engagement is made short enough) after a trigger job, so it's one of those things I watch. It's also why I left so much take up, and while it really IS very tempting to take more out, the trigger is plenty good enough as is. The SKS sear is surprisingly hard also, but still as you said caution is always in order, especially with a self loader.
I also agree reheat treating is probably the best course of action after doing a trigger job, and I've read about Casenite, and a few other products to do surface hardening, but I've haven't gotten any yet
I tried rehardening an AR hammer with one of our combustion ovens at work, which should be able to do the job.
It didn't work so well, I'm sure do to operator error. It's the one time YouTube has failed me on something like this.
I still got the hammer here actually....
I'll be keeping an eye on it, I've seen sear engagements ware over time, (sometimes surprisingly little time if the engagement is made short enough) after a trigger job, so it's one of those things I watch. It's also why I left so much take up, and while it really IS very tempting to take more out, the trigger is plenty good enough as is. The SKS sear is surprisingly hard also, but still as you said caution is always in order, especially with a self loader.
I also agree reheat treating is probably the best course of action after doing a trigger job, and I've read about Casenite, and a few other products to do surface hardening, but I've haven't gotten any yet
I tried rehardening an AR hammer with one of our combustion ovens at work, which should be able to do the job.
It didn't work so well, I'm sure do to operator error. It's the one time YouTube has failed me on something like this.
I still got the hammer here actually....
Thanks for the compliments guys!
That does look like a tapco sight post. I looked at those when I was ordering a thinner one, but haven't decided if I want to go that route, just the thinner post, or try the Williams firesight front.
Just wanted to say that the rear peep is fantastic, it's much, much, easier to use than the open sights.
If someone decides to go the same route I did with the rear sight, there's a couple things you need to do.
First the upper portion of the mount curves back towards the receiver, and that needs to be filled or ground flat.
Second you have to decide if you want to be able to remove the top cover with the base installed. If so you need to mount the sight far enough back that you can lift the back of the cover over the sticky out portion the screws fo into, to remove it. Or you could notch the cover.
Again if anyone wants pictures of what I'm talking about Ill go get them.
The techsights are an easier option tho, and for anyome who dosent want to poke holes in their receiver I think are a perfect option.
That does look like a tapco sight post. I looked at those when I was ordering a thinner one, but haven't decided if I want to go that route, just the thinner post, or try the Williams firesight front.
Just wanted to say that the rear peep is fantastic, it's much, much, easier to use than the open sights.
If someone decides to go the same route I did with the rear sight, there's a couple things you need to do.
First the upper portion of the mount curves back towards the receiver, and that needs to be filled or ground flat.
Second you have to decide if you want to be able to remove the top cover with the base installed. If so you need to mount the sight far enough back that you can lift the back of the cover over the sticky out portion the screws fo into, to remove it. Or you could notch the cover.
Again if anyone wants pictures of what I'm talking about Ill go get them.
The techsights are an easier option tho, and for anyome who dosent want to poke holes in their receiver I think are a perfect option.
chicharrones
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Did you case harden the sear after removing material?
No, I don't have the materials to do so.
Two things make me comfortable with the way it is. The contact surface has been shortened length wise, and otherwise not touched, it also never got hotter than I could touch. Secondly a cheap file won't easily cut the sear, which suggests that it was hardened, atleast to some degree all the way through.
Contact is surfaces are both deep and wide on the sks, and i left contact long. So I'll see rounding on the edge, and most likely get a squishy pull before there's any danger or the sear dropping the hammer on it's own.
Two things make me comfortable with the way it is. The contact surface has been shortened length wise, and otherwise not touched, it also never got hotter than I could touch. Secondly a cheap file won't easily cut the sear, which suggests that it was hardened, atleast to some degree all the way through.
Contact is surfaces are both deep and wide on the sks, and i left contact long. So I'll see rounding on the edge, and most likely get a squishy pull before there's any danger or the sear dropping the hammer on it's own.
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Got my thinner front sight for the sks in yesterday.
I got out for a while today to sight and test my b-14 now that it's dropped into it's new B&C stock, the Sks with it's new handloads and front sight, and my wife's new/old .243.
They all shot well, but the sks was definitely more fun to shoot than the others lol.
I had loads with 123hornady spitzers with 25.5gr of rl-7, and 123 nosler tipped fbs, with 26.5 and 27gr. Best accuracy was with the 123hornadys, but I also shot them right at the end of the day, and I figgured out how to set my sight picture before shooting the last group.
The 27gr loads we're definitely not as consistent, it shot 3"-4" or so.
The 26.5 shot 2"-2.5"
The 25.5 with Hornady bullets shot 2"
Again I'm not very good with iron sights, I'm much better with a peep and post than opens, but still not very good.
26.5
Only 3 shots on this one.
25.5
There's some earlier rounds that hit the same spot
But there's 6 in that group, these we're also loaded with old Grendel brass as an experiment.
I thought I had pictures of the 27gr groups, as well as the 5rmd group I shot with the 26.5, but I guess I forgot.
Here's what it looks like thru the sights.
I'm gonna go load more 25.5, 26, and 26.5 with both the Hornady, and Nosler bullets. But even as is this gun shoots better than I can hold iron sights.
I got out for a while today to sight and test my b-14 now that it's dropped into it's new B&C stock, the Sks with it's new handloads and front sight, and my wife's new/old .243.
They all shot well, but the sks was definitely more fun to shoot than the others lol.
I had loads with 123hornady spitzers with 25.5gr of rl-7, and 123 nosler tipped fbs, with 26.5 and 27gr. Best accuracy was with the 123hornadys, but I also shot them right at the end of the day, and I figgured out how to set my sight picture before shooting the last group.
The 27gr loads we're definitely not as consistent, it shot 3"-4" or so.
The 26.5 shot 2"-2.5"
The 25.5 with Hornady bullets shot 2"
Again I'm not very good with iron sights, I'm much better with a peep and post than opens, but still not very good.
26.5
Only 3 shots on this one.
25.5
There's some earlier rounds that hit the same spot
But there's 6 in that group, these we're also loaded with old Grendel brass as an experiment.
I thought I had pictures of the 27gr groups, as well as the 5rmd group I shot with the 26.5, but I guess I forgot.
Here's what it looks like thru the sights.
I'm gonna go load more 25.5, 26, and 26.5 with both the Hornady, and Nosler bullets. But even as is this gun shoots better than I can hold iron sights.
Skylerbone
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Nicest looking SKS sporter I’ve ever seen! I’ve only shot one once, back in the ‘90s when my buddies were splitting cases at around $90/each. Being the brains of the bunch I invested my money in dating...shoot! Should have gotten in on one.
chicharrones
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LOL!
Behind, bout 40miles....
It's in a subdivision bout 10miles, emm, maybe less, from out house. A few miles farther towards the coast from the last time it popped up.
There was some good drone footage, but I haven't seen anything more recent.
Behind, bout 40miles....
It's in a subdivision bout 10miles, emm, maybe less, from out house. A few miles farther towards the coast from the last time it popped up.
There was some good drone footage, but I haven't seen anything more recent.
As an insurance policy, you might want to purchase an SKS trigger group while a few NOS are still available. There is a guy, Kivaari, on the SKS boards which I used to frequent that does trigger work on SKS trigger groups and apparently excels at doing so if you ever needed to use his work.
You are getting great results from that RL-7 which I have never used when I reloaded for the SKS.
Be safe now from that volcanoe. Hope it isn't affecting your air quality too much.
You are getting great results from that RL-7 which I have never used when I reloaded for the SKS.
Be safe now from that volcanoe. Hope it isn't affecting your air quality too much.
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