New styled pocket revolver

[Vern Humphrey]

As I said earlier, in the furture it will become common for the grandkids to go trough grandpa's effects after his funeral and find his ultra-lightweight snubbie, with the original box of shells, only six rounds missing.

Ultra lightweights are truly expressions of the "carry a lot, shoot a little" philosophy. But guns are carried to be shot -- in extreme danger. So going down in caliber and power doesn't seem to make a lot of sense. I carry a full-size M1911 with no problem, and at times a Detective Special. Neither of those represent any great burden.

 

[B36]

Bart..B36

Bart, the J47 engines ran on 115/145. Normally used for takeoff, climbout, hi altitude..40k up, and landing.

A great bird ..had about 2000 hours in the B36 as Radio/ECM operator.

Vern, have you practiced shooting from a pants pocket? What were the results?

 

[carebear]

Again, please name the frikin' brand of pants you guys wear.

I wear mostly relaxed fit Levi's 505's and Carhartt single panel jeans (fitted but not tight) and can't get either my 85Ti or Mustang in or out of the front pocket (and the butt of the Ti still sticks out) unless I'm standing upright and have time to work at it. Sitting down? Fuggidaboutit.

And shoot out of a PANTS pocket? How do you turn the gun to face forward? Heck, how do you get your wrist cranked over? How big of a pocket and how oversize are your pants?

I don't disbelieve any of you but (except for the pleated Docker option) I just have never been able to functionally pull off front pocket carry with anything resembling practical access. I do dress around my belt gun but I am not gonna wear parachute pants or stuff an all-steel pig like the SP101 in any trouser I can think of.

Pictures or brands maybe? This little Bear can't figure it out.

 

[kjaniak]

Good discussion guys.....

My thinking was this. A gun being light does always mean it is small. Like someone else said, NAA mini's sell for a reason and I don't think it is to target shoot with....HAHA. I love the J frames don't get me wrong but sometimes conditions just warrent something smaller. A in-between NAA mini and J frame, IMO, would fill a niche market that is there. The revolver would be a choice for the people that have had bad luck or are uncomfortable using a small auto. Kel Tec's, Tomcat's, Seacamp's, etc.. all sell fairly well. How about a 4 shot .32 mag, moon clipped .380.....heck even a .25. I know if it was put out by a decent maker, and was reliable, I would by one in a second.

 

[Vern Humphrey]

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Vern, have you practiced shooting from a pants pocket? What were the results?
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Nope, I was only issued two cojones, and I want to keep them both.

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Again, please name the frikin' brand of pants you guys wear.
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I mostly pocket carry with something like Dockers. But I buy my jeans (Wranglers, not Levis -- Levi doesn't support the 2nd Amendment) for comfort and I can conceal my Detective Special in a front pocket.

 

[carebear]

I still think "Dee-wight Yoakum-style Strangler's" when I think Wrangler's. I guess it is time to give them another look-see.

Still don't see front pockets giving reliable, speedy access when seated tho. Maybe I still want my pants a little too tight.

 

[Vern Humphrey]

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Still don't see front pockets giving reliable, speedy access when seated tho. Maybe I still want my pants a little too tight.
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They don't give good access when sitting -- pants like pleated dockers are a bit better than jeans, but a good holster is a better option.

If you have to carry in a pocket, carry in a jacket pocket. A gun in a jacket pocket is far more accessable, even when sitting.

 

[The Rabbi]

I have to admit I wear the pleated Dockers exclusively. Maybe if I wore jeans I'd have problems.
Anyone looking for smaller may want to consider the oooold Smith top-break in .32S&W. I'll bet they're even older than Vern. It is smaller than a j-frame, cheap, pretty accurate, and while a .32S&W isnt anyone's idea of a one shot stop I'd rather have that than a .22 or nothing.

 

[Vern Humphrey]

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Anyone looking for smaller may want to consider the oooold Smith top-break in .32S&W. I'll bet they're even older than Vern.
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I resemble that remark!

Come around here where I can get you with my cane, you young whippersnapper!

 

[GEM]

There was discussion on the NAA site's board that there was thought of or demand for a scaled up mini in 32 HR or maybe a tip up.

There was also talk on the Smith board of a 639 type in Sc and 9mm.

Haven't seen either yet

 

[MICHAEL T]

Bob 79 I carry the following in my L/front pocket. (not at same time of course )

PPK/s
Colt Mustang
Charter Arms snub.
All are carried in a pocket holster in regular Wal Mart jeans and no one has notice yet.

 

[SapperLeader]

I would love two different "new styled" pocket guns. I have no issues pocket carrying when Im wearing my 5.11 pants, but jeans and dress pants ahve different issues. My jeans have large pockets, but they are not very deep. A i-frame in 9mm would be great, as it would sit lower in the pocket, not just below the top like my j-frame does now. I also would like the scaled up mini NAA could develop. Still singleaction and simple like the .22 version, but built beefier for .32 h&r. Something like this could drop in a dockers or suit pocket with ease.
Too Recap - smaller DAO j-frame type gun - most probally a I frame in 9mm or maybe .32 h&r.

A NAA mini in .32 h&r

 

[sgt127]

Ya know....If Smith came back out with their little frames again...made out of Ti and SC and all that other cool stuff..And chambered it for .38 S&W...and somebody loaded up a bunch of +P+ .38 S&W (.38 S&W Magnum?)....you could sure use a shorter frame and cylinder than the current J frame..Maybe belt the .38 S&W Magnum so some idiot doesn't load it in grandpa's H&R Topbreak.....? With current hotter powders and good bullets....Of course, we would have just reinvented a 9mm revolver if it were properly sized....

 

[tim71]

I have the perfect gun for you guys. It is smaller than a J frame and even though it's no longer made, it's still very plentiful. RG .22! 6 awesome shots of .22 short and quality that's, well....legendary we'll say.

Tim

 

[MrMurphy]

Wrangler relaxed fit jeans fit a J-frame just fine. And yes, you can draw seated with a little practice... lean back a tiny bit and yank it hard. Hammerless design being needed.