Get yourself a CZ, they don't break like that (maybe because they have a steel frame vs polly). Hmmmm.
newer glocks breaking?
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I have owned and still own a number of Glocks in different models/calibers that are various ages, the newest being purchased late in 2007. I have carried them for work guns and trained with them quite a bit. I carry one now as a personal protection piece. I have heard of some agencies having trouble, but I have never personally observed any Glock breaking. Sure, it can/could happen. As has been stated, anything mechanical and manmade can break.
Glocks have never broken for me. Indeed, I cannot remember any malfunctions that were not due to ammo (a dead primer is a dead primer no matter the gun). I cannot say that of most of the numerous other brands I have owned and used. Therefore, I carry Glocks and will be very comfortable doing so until something better comes along.
Now, as for someone in a store having a loud opinion etc. There is a creature (closely analogous to the Mall Ninja) that seems to be at work in the original post. That is the dreaded "gunshop commando". They are not rare, unfortunately, but they are easy to spot. Broad, sweeping opinions backed up by nebulous history and vague sources mark their speech. Beware.......
Glocks have never broken for me. Indeed, I cannot remember any malfunctions that were not due to ammo (a dead primer is a dead primer no matter the gun). I cannot say that of most of the numerous other brands I have owned and used. Therefore, I carry Glocks and will be very comfortable doing so until something better comes along.
Now, as for someone in a store having a loud opinion etc. There is a creature (closely analogous to the Mall Ninja) that seems to be at work in the original post. That is the dreaded "gunshop commando". They are not rare, unfortunately, but they are easy to spot. Broad, sweeping opinions backed up by nebulous history and vague sources mark their speech. Beware.......
What ever dude. Just trying to help, CZ got the good old steel frame vs Glock's polly. Perhaps this has something to do with their "BREAKING."
And my screen name is 240SX, not "mall ninja." I can't help the fact that you all are stuck on these guns. As I may have mentioned, I was going to purchase a Glock 23 for my ever growing handgun collection, but now I see the light. Forget about Glocks, there are better built firearms out there.
And my screen name is 240SX, not "mall ninja." I can't help the fact that you all are stuck on these guns. As I may have mentioned, I was going to purchase a Glock 23 for my ever growing handgun collection, but now I see the light. Forget about Glocks, there are better built firearms out there.
The only issue I've read about new Glocks was with the 10mm's. There seems to be a molding problem and cracks have formed on some frames around where the insert goes. I've not read of any frames failing...just having cracks.
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Glock 19s are NYPD issue weapons and they have been having some mysterious problems http://www.thegunzone.com/glock/phase3.html
240sx,
Read my post. Nothing in it was directed at you. Not sure how you got that it was. I clearly am referring to the "cop" in the original post by cajun47 when I mention "mall ninjas" and "gunshop commandos" running their mouths in stores. This relates directly to the original post. Again, re-read my post and the original post, understand them, and then try not to take personally those posts that have absolutely nothing to do with you.
I hope you do enjoy your CZ and continue to have great luck with it. Stick with what you know and like. That's why they make more than one brand of gun.
Read my post. Nothing in it was directed at you. Not sure how you got that it was. I clearly am referring to the "cop" in the original post by cajun47 when I mention "mall ninjas" and "gunshop commandos" running their mouths in stores. This relates directly to the original post. Again, re-read my post and the original post, understand them, and then try not to take personally those posts that have absolutely nothing to do with you.
I hope you do enjoy your CZ and continue to have great luck with it. Stick with what you know and like. That's why they make more than one brand of gun.
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I'll take my poly Glock over a CZ anyday. The reason you hear more about Glock problems is there are millions in existence, compared to CZ having thousands. I'm not saying a Glock is better for everybody or is better than CZ. The Glock has a better track record and its what I like.
Please try to remember. Did the "cop" tell you when that bunch of Glocks would break or maybe have lots of serious malfunctions? This could be important.
Is his bunch of Glocks the only ones that will break or have serious malfunctions? If so, I don't care. I wonder why that "cop" bought a bunch of Glocks that would break.
A friend of mine met a cop who said he was speeding. That cop was wrong. I wonder if it's the same cop.
Tinroad, you are making un-researched claims there. There are over 1 million CZ 75's alone, that does not include CZ 82/83's or CZ97's. I have no idea where you are getting the idea that Glock has a better track record.
That said, I think glocks are excellent pistols. One of the few that feel comfortable to me. I challenge anyone to find a pistol model that has never had a failure, that goes for revolvers too. And yeah, if there is a kB! inside a glock it probably will cause more damage to the polymer fram than it would to a steel frame. Then again, my loaded up CZ75 is heavy as a brick. A glock is quite a bit lighter. It's all tradeoffs.
That said, I think glocks are excellent pistols. One of the few that feel comfortable to me. I challenge anyone to find a pistol model that has never had a failure, that goes for revolvers too. And yeah, if there is a kB! inside a glock it probably will cause more damage to the polymer fram than it would to a steel frame. Then again, my loaded up CZ75 is heavy as a brick. A glock is quite a bit lighter. It's all tradeoffs.
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Glock 19s are NYPD issue weapons and they have been having some mysterious problems http://www.thegunzone.com/glock/phase3.html
Interesting reading good post, thank you.
Glock 19s are NYPD issue weapons and they have been having some mysterious problems http://www.thegunzone.com/glock/phase3.html
Interesting reading good post, thank you.
retgarr, I have no idea how many are out there and it was just an expression, but it's difficult to believe there are as many CZ models on the market as Glocks. If I wanted to use an unsubstantial number, I would of made one up. They're used by most law enforcement agencies (specific number of agencies unknown). I'm not biased towards Glock nor do I work for them. I have 8 handguns and only 1 is a Glock. Most of my handguns are 1911s. If I liked the looks of the CZ line of handguns (Dan Wesson 1911s I do like) I would give one a try. A Dan Wesson Valor will be my next choice once they're readily available.
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That is a 2002 posting....see this line from your link.
I suspect the issue is resolved or you'd be reading some fresher postings on it.
Now, I actually did "break" my own Glock. It was a small part, but the gun was immediately disabled. A spring retaining the slide lock (the serrated tabs you pull for takedown) broke, causing the slide lock to fall out and the slide - with the barrel and recoil spring still attached - to fly off the front of the frame and into the dirt. But things like this can happen to any mechanical device.
The range I frequent got some new Glocks about 6-10 months ago -- 9 mm, 40, 357 sig, 45 acp, 45 GAP, in every size availablbe. From what I know, they're fine -- & that's from the accelarated pov of a range gun! It's a Glock -- don't worry!
Did his department make him give up a gun he liked to issue him the Glock? If so this could be the cause of the Glock hating. I saw it years ago in a department where I worked when we switched from revolvers to autos.
I own 3 Glocks. My G26 is 5 years old, and has never had a hiccup, and neither has the others. I'm not buying into the Glock malfunction thing. I've never witnessed it with my own eyes at a range.
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Don't worry what others might say about a certain model breaking. If that is your gun, just enjoy shooting with it. The operative word here is to enjoy your gun. If you find problems, then ask the manufacturer to repair or replace it. If this doesn't work, sell that thing and buy another gun and move on.
This is the Gospel Truth, and it is easily verified by a search at the Indianapolis Star website.
I know several people who had to return their Glocks to Smyrna around the same time for one of the famous Glock recalls that somehow aren't recalls (according to Glock).
Question: If a manufacturer tells me to send them my pistol because it falls into a certain serial number range, whether it has broken yet or not, isn't that the very definition of a recall?
Most problems I have seen were related to the ejector and extractor which have been recalled in the 2nd Gen GLocks IIRC. Otherwise you only have to keep an eye on the magazine springs as they seem to not last that long. That was an early problem in the Gen 1 Glocks but was easily fixed with new mag springs. I keep my personal Glocks updated with Wolff 10% XP springs and have not had a problem. My work gun with the factory mag springs is another story. If your Glock has not had a malfunction you simply have not shot it enough. With all of their little problems I still think that it is one of the best guns around as long as the little things are tended to, fixed, replaced and or maintained properly.
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I have heard of some issues with the G36 when it first came out. I think everything has been corrected now.
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