newspaper poll about teachers and guns

[rangerruck]

http://www.klas-tv.com/Global/story.asp?S=5811854
only slightly ahead.

 

[geegee]

Hit. Still slightly ahead: 52% vs. 48%.

 

[mpmarty]

Now 56/44 in favor

 

[Henry Bowman]

Hit.

I guess Utah has sky lying all over the ground. (The chicken littles must be right.)

 

[Chipperman]

We're at 57% in favor now.

Cut and paste the link, don't click it.

 

[sefus]

60/40 now in favor

 

[RockyMtnTactical]

I like Bob Beers, he's one of the true Conservative Republicans... so much so that some think he's bordering on the libertarian side...

 

[GhostlyKarliion]

Hit

61/39

oorah

 

[El Tejon]

Wow, Hector Garcia is not exactly the sharpest tool in the law enforcement shed is he?

Where will these weapons will be housed? Ummm, in the teachers' holsters.

Why do these numbnutted policicrats think there is some centralized armory at the school where the teachers run and get pistols? Who is spreading that goofy idea around? You don't run to get a pistol. Your pistol is worn, it is part of you. You run and get a carbine, rifle or shotgun.

Will students have access to the guns? ***? Where did he get this question, from Sarah Brady?

No, students will not have access to the teachers' pistols or their wallets or car keys, you dimwit. However, just because of this I believe Senator Beers should propose mandatory firearms training in Nevada schools. No one graduates until they check out on an M16.

Interplay with law enforcement? Ummm, just like anyone else carrying a pistol perhaps. If you are so worried, then spend the money to train the teachers yourself. Oh, wait, that's not going to happen, you just want to talk and not act.

Scenario: Dakota, the nihilistic goth dressing confused young man, who is taught by school that God does not exist, there is no right, no wrong, and that human life has no value, comes to school with a shotgun. Teacher shoots him in the back of his head as he is ranting down the hallway about how mommy doesn't love him. Teachers wait for police to come and transport body to morgue.

Apparently Senor Garcia would prefer to pick up the bodies of students and teachers, not the murderers.

 

[Henry Bowman]

Teacher shoots him in the back of his head as he is ranting down the hallway about how mommy doesn't love him. Teachers wait for police to come and transport body to morgue.

But what if they miss and kill seven innocent students? But what if that same teacher then mows down the rest of the classroom? But what if the responding LEO (who was just microseconds away) shows up and doesn't know the good guy from the bad guy? But what if...? But what if...?

Sounds like my 4 years old. "Hey, Dad! What if monsters were real? And they came in through the window? And they were skeletons? And then suddenly, you open your eyes and...?"

Better to just talk about it than do something.

 

[ArfinGreebly]

Should Teachers Be Armed?

So, I added my own $0.02:

I see the ad hominem crowd is in fine form. Can't be bothered to understand the issue. See the word "gun" and wet themselves. Begin bleating that the senator is wrong/bad/crazy.

Yes, I understand that it's more important to keep schools safe for predators. After all, schools are supposed to promote "fairness" and we wouldn't want to be unfair to a predator now, would we?

Would I arm MOST teachers? No, of course not. Most teachers have had personal responsibility and independent thought expunged from their thinking. We are all victims here. No one must be offended. Can't we all just get along?

Some teachers, on the other hand, are quite comfortable with their responsibilities. They understand that their own security and that of their charges is up to them. The police will never be there when bad things start.

I have no problem with properly trained and screened personnel carrying the only effective means of self defense.

Those staff who wish to remain unarmed, who are committed to being helpless, who don't trust themselves with defensive weapons, who don't care if the students entrusted to them are kept safe from violent school invasions: they should, indeed, not carry.

Of course, I'm not sure I'd trust a teacher who insisted on such abdication of responsibility with the education of my children.

I'd also worry that such a teacher would lie to my kids, and "interpret" the 2nd amendment for them as "protecting the army's right to be armed."

Let those teachers who aren't frightened of weapons be armed.

I'll make sure my kids take their classes. I want to make sure they have a fighting chance when it all hits the fan.

The rest of you can keep your kids in the classes of guaranteed soft targets. Best of luck to you.

 

[SAG0282]

66/34 our favor.

And +1 on Garcia being a retard. The shortcomings he poses are either non-issues or easily overcome.

 

[Apple a Day]

67/33

 

[El Tejon]

I don't think Garcia is mentally retarded (at least I will not presume that), however he is parroting the rubbish that the Brady Bunch faxes over to the magazines that the policicrats read. His questions sound like one of his assistants clipped out an article from Chief of Police magazine that came from a Brady Bunch fax.

 

[BobMcG]

And again 67/33.

 

[armoredman]

People keep talking only about teachers - I'll bet there are others on campus capable of doing it too - wasn't it an assistant principal in Pearl Mississippi who stopped a school shotting there with his own gun?

 

[Rem700SD]

67/33% in favor

 

[Euclidean]

This is a wonderful thing. I will comment on it later when I'm not so overcome with joy. God Bless you Bob Beers.

Discuss it on my site here as well if you'd like.

 

[Green Lantern]

Cut and paste the link, don't click it.

I feel stupid for not having thought of that myself, felt the need to emphasize it for this and other online polls of this sort. So the pollsters won't be able to realize they're being "bombed" from one site.

I hate the wording of it. The way it is, they COULD turn it and say:

"Well, 99.9% of Americans AGREE that he is going to introduce the bill!"

 

[rhubarb]

But where gun control has failed, Bob Beers believes gun proliferation may succeed.

Did I just read these words from a TeeVee reporter? "Gun control has failed?" Now that's some good news.

The president of the teacher's union told Eyewitness News he believes our schools should remain gun free and not be turned into "military camps."

The only one talking about militarizing the schools is the Chief of Police, not the Senator proposing to allow concealed carry at school.