Next level handgun organization/storage?

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Ed Ames

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What do those of you who have owned a moderate number of handguns favor for storage and organization?

Imagine you need to store 50 guns. Maybe 10 of those are legitimate antiques or collectables (value of at least $1000, and not manufactured in at least 50 years), another 10 are reproduction antiques (cap and ball/single shot muzzle loaders) that get used only when outdoor range time can be found. The remaining 30 are actively used, though the frequency ranges from a trip to the range a few times a year to daily CC.

How would you organize and store such an assortment? How about if it was twice that size?

Is there some threshold where alternatives to the standard gun safe start to make sense? If so, what are the thresholds and alternatives?

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How about a safe (aka residential security cabinet) with lots of shelves in it with a handgun rack on each shelf. No long gun storage space.

I've seen advertisements for a safe with a lazy susan affair with racks to hold multiple handguns.
 
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I keep most of my handguns in safe deposit boxes. The ones that I have not shot or do not intend to shoot often can be kept safely in a 10 x 10 inch box. I can pack about a dozen in one box depending on the barrel length.

Those that I want to have at hand for shooting or self defense I keep in a safe. When I lived in CANADA, you HAD to have a safe if you wanted to keep your handguns at home, otherwise they had to be secured at a range or safe deposit box.
You could just keep your rifles and shotguns locked up, but did not need a safe.

Jim
 
If you are storing 50 guns, it should be in a safe IMHO. I would advise to get a safe possibly better than the base RSC rating if those guns are of moderate value given that adds up to a lot of money, and RSCs are not made to house high dollar collections.

If you have a Pro 2A YT channel, interact with a lot of people, live in an area that may have more crime, live in an area where police response to a burglary alarm when you are not home is slow, often have contractors/strangers over, or it so happens that a lot of people know you have firearms, I would favor an even beefier safe given all of these factors could increase the chance the safe will need to survive a physical attack.

Ensuring the safe has substantial fire protection, in addition to burglary protection, is probably also a good thing to do if you go in that direction, IMHO.
 
Depending on how much cash you're looking to spend you can get a pretty large pretty affordable Fort Knox safe that has a series of shelves for storing the hand guns. I think for less than 5k you could get 50-100 hand guns in one. I'm guessing that Pendleton is a $20,000-$40,000 range safe. The 50 gun model is $8,000 and that's the 300 gun model.
 
Wow, $20-40k! What's the resale value on safes? No way I could justify that unless it held resale value for decades. Are there collector safes that are an appreciating asset in their own right?

If you are storing 50 guns, it should be in a safe IMHO.

I don't really run in proper "safe" circles and have no idea where to get a reasonable one without breaking at least the bank. However, when I was a kid I read stories about keeping food safe from bears by hanging it from tree limbs in sacks. I have two really big trees in my front yard. I figure if it works for food against bears, it's gotta be fine against people for guns too.(Kidding)

FWIW you can fit 40+ handguns into a 2.2 cubic foot firesafe without much bother, so long as you are willing to stack. The problem is when you say, "I haven't shot my .45c blackhawk in a spell, let's take that to the range this time..." and it happens that the blackhawk is at the back of the bottom shelf.

50 handguns is, when you think about it, not very many, and considering my gutter tastes they aren't worth much. If you consigned them or sold to an honest dealer you might net $25k on a good day, or if you trickled them out on gunbroker or did local F2F deals maybe $35k.

Given that I am fairly young and plan to continue buying, I'd like a solution that scales. I wouldn't be surprised if the total exceeds 100.
 
I don't really run in proper "safe" circles and have no idea where to get a reasonable one without breaking at least the bank. However, when I was a kid I read stories about keeping food safe from bears by hanging it from tree limbs in sacks. I have two really big trees in my front yard. I figure if it works for food against bears, it's gotta be fine against people for guns too.(Kidding)

FWIW you can fit 40+ handguns into a 2.2 cubic foot firesafe without much bother, so long as you are willing to stack. The problem is when you say, "I haven't shot my .45c blackhawk in a spell, let's take that to the range this time..." and it happens that the blackhawk is at the back of the bottom shelf.

50 handguns is, when you think about it, not very many, and considering my gutter tastes they aren't worth much. If you consigned them or sold to an honest dealer you might net $25k on a good day, or if you trickled them out on gunbroker or did local F2F deals maybe $35k.

Given that I am fairly young and plan to continue buying, I'd like a solution that scales. I wouldn't be surprised if the total exceeds 100.


Compared to my collection 50 guns is a lot...I wish I had a 50 guns!! At the price you are at and since it sounds like your collection will expand in value and size, IMO a safe is probably a worthwhile investment, and it is worth getting a safe that provides more than just basic protection.

My opinion on getting the best security safe for a reasonable price is to sometimes go used if you find a good bargain. You can get used a true security safe for not much more than a new pimped out gun safe, and in some cases for significantly less. Often times you can also find really nice safes on Craigslist when people are either moving or have upgraded to a larger new safe and decided to sell the old one. One company that builds good gun safes for a reasonable price is Sturdy Safe. They are hideous looking but solidly built and affordable. With armor upgrades, these safes provide some burglary protection and protection beyond that of most other gun safes IMO (note that they are still not security safes.)

For your storage needs, I think a custom storage solution will best meet your needs since no out-of-the-box system is going to be best utilize space for your application. When I set up my main safe, I had a variety of items I wanted to have accessible and no out of the box rack system worked. I wound up using some 3M VHB tape, 1 inch pine boards, epoxy putty, dowel rods, and adhesive felt material. I made 5 shelfs in a safe that is about 60 inches high, with each shelf being variable in terms of height and width so it perfectly fits the items I want it to. If I had that many hand guns, I would probably build a custom shelf system to maximize the room with multiple shelves, each with handgun racks that would store the guns side by side/parallel with the grips facing outward to make removal of one easy and not requiring many others to be moved around. I would also use some of the LED strip lights with an adhesive backing from Amazon, given you can get a 300 LED strip now for like 6 bucks, and it will be as bright and look as good as many the safe light kits costing in the hundreds.


There are a lot of sites out there with used safes, but Lackasafe always has a huge stock of used security safes. Some items are priced better than others, but it is a good site to get a snapshot of options and pricing, and sometimes you get lucky and find a real gem. Local locksmiths often have used safes as well.

Just as a few examples, this is a TL-15 AmSec Steel Plate safe
http://www.lackasafe.com/products/used-safes-specials/used-amsec-tl15-high-security-plate-safe

this is a TL-15 equivalent Quantum composite safe with fire protection
http://www.lackasafe.com/products/high-security-safes/used-3020-quantum-tl15-high-security-safe

Those types of safes can withstand skilled attacks unlike most gun safes. As collection value goes it, it might be something worth considering down the road.
 
Currently I just use these small holders for handguns and place them on shelves in my safe above the long guns:

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The gun's original boxes (those that I have) sit on top of the safe empty. Guns with presentation boxes etc sit on shelves in the safe.

When I bought my first safe I did some homework and finally went to a safe store with a display room filled with safes and residential security containers. I finally settled on a large AMSEC safe. Fortunately I live where it was easy to find a large business selling safes with a large display showroom.

Ron
 
An economical solution is those rubber moly coated 8-dish drying racks sold at home decor stores. They are about $5, and hold 8 "dishes" vertically. They also perfectly fit handguns. The moly coating protects the finish.
 
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