no chatter about the mausingfield?

[taliv]

i figured you guys would be drooling all over this

while i'm not a fan of controlled round feed, or springfields or mausers, I know most of you are... so have you not seen this? or saw it and thought the price was ridiculous? or just weren't interested?

i'm curious

Boasting an innovative scope mounting interface, toroidal bolt lugs that never need lapping, a Mauser-style extractor, and a springfield-style ejector, the Mausingfield is a unique fusion of modern design and battle-proven features from bolt actions past. On top of these features we’ve also added compatibility with a broad range of off the shelf components. The Mausingfield is compatible with triggers, trigger guards, and chassis systems designed for the remington 700. The Mausingfield is also compatible with Savage large shank barrels and lock nuts enabling you to install off-the-shelf turnkey barrels without the need for expensive equipment.

Patent pending engineered bolt lugs do not require lapping
Mauser 98 extractor
‘03 springfield ejector
ARC proprietary keyed rail interface prevents rail slippage
Compatible with rem 700 accessories
Compatible with savage small shank barrels and lock nuts
Compatible with accuracy international cs magazines
Aerospace grade materials used throughout
Rotatable and interchangeable bolt knob
Integral recoil lug
Proudly engineered and machined in the USA

 

[Ranger Roberts]

This is the first time I'm seeing this. Did it make it's debut at SHOT this year?

 

[taliv]

i think so, but could have been a little earlier, i don't know.

 

[Gordon]

I think they are $1200-1400 and as yet vaporware. MAYBE Georgia Precision has built some rifles with it.

 

[P.B.Walsh]

I think they are uber cool, they are somewhat hot in topics over at Sniper's Hide, another forum I frequent.

I am a huge fan of all CRF actions and have a particular distain for Remmington actions (the clones are very nice, but they are still a Remington in essence).

At the price tag ARC is asking, it is simply not feasable at the current time for me if I were building a precision rifle. It looks very well enginered and thought out though, I definitely appreciate that.

 

[primalmu]

Their website says $1600. That's enough reason for me for why there's not much chatter about it...

 

[Bezoar]

if you want unique..

the website about surplus rifles,

surplus forum? has a really big library of obsolete books on our hobbies.
they have a beautiful book written pre world war 2 about the springfield rifle. It has fully dimensioned blueprints for creating the springfield action. it covers every phase of operation, and even has blueprints for most of the equipment used to make the parts, as well as the jigs and fixtures needed for most operations.

download it, print it off. and find a machinist that knows what they are doing.
1200 dollars should get you maybe 2 complete actions,
ar at least the action built, a barrel installed, and a replica stock.

 

[urbaneruralite]

That bolt is gonna waggle all over the place when run out. Nice that there's an option for people who like that sort of thing, though.

 

[MistWolf]

That bolt is gonna waggle all over the place when run out

...and the problem is...?

 

[taliv]

would it waggle worse than an old mauser?

 

[Dr T]

Was this designed by a Dr. Frankenstein?

 

[taliv]

really, I'm kinda surprised that people aren't jumping on a design they love, made with modern steel and machining instead of WW2 factories pumping them out as fast as they could with whatever metal they could get their hands on

 

[jerkface11]

A rail on top is an innovative scope mounting solution?

 

[MrBorland]

really, I'm kinda surprised that people aren't jumping on a design they love, made with modern steel and machining

I'm not. People often complain about today's "junk", paying lip service to quality, but when it comes time to actually pay for it, well...not so much.

Personally, I like it. It's price is in line with other custom actions (BAT, Surgeon, etc), and compared to a $3k+ Granite Mountain Mauser action, it's a bargain.

 

[Arizona_Mike]

That bolt is gonna waggle all over the place when run out. Nice that there's an option for people who like that sort of thing, though.

Reminds me of the guy who shot a round with my Mauser at a range and then handed the gun to me with the bolt open saying "I didn't break it! I swear." I looked at him and said "No you didn't break it."

Mike

 

[Arizona_Mike]

While they were at it why didn't they do an Arisaka cone breech?


Seriously, it sounds like one Mauser feature not included was gas handling. Is gas handling a dead issue this Century?

Edit: I found this. It looks like they did extensive testing of case failure. It seems to use the fairly open breech/easy escape philosophy plus a bolt shroud.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfasXB0gVYk#t=34

They have a bunch of videos here http://www.americanrifle.com/Mausingfield-Bolt-Action.html

Mike

PS. They offer traditional cock on open and half-and-half cocking.

 

[taliv]

you mean a gas block? all of my bolt rifles have a gas block. do these not? i didnt notice

 

[jerkface11]

I do like that it takes Savage barrels.

 

[ApacheCoTodd]

New to me.

Don't like the name... not clever and pandering.
Don't like the bold handle. Looks abusive.
Don't like the brevity nor the position of the scope base.
Ejection port looks like it needs relieving.
Gap ahead of the bolt release is excessive and cobbed-up looking.


Great start - not ready for prime time for this consumer.

Todd.

 

[Elkins45]

HATE the bolt knob.

Love that it uses Savage barrels.

Where's the bolt locking safety? One of the very best features of the Mauser design is that there is a piece of steel positively preventing the firing pin from falling no matter what happens to the trigger. I don't see that here. I would hate to drop >$1000 for an action and then have to spend another $200 for a bolt shroud safety.

No LH version? For that kind of cash I want the bolt handle on the side where it does me the most good.

I just noticed a discrepancy in the text: does it take small or large shank barrels? The OP says both. And if the only thing Springfield about it is the ejector then why isn't the Mausingsavage or Mausington instead of Mausingfield? There's isn't much Springfield that I can see.

 

[taliv]

there is a group buy going on over at snipershide for left handed versions
i was wondering about the safety too. i hate safety on bolt guns and none of mine have them, so that would be a plus for me. since this thing uses rem700 triggers, i was guessing they left it off the bolt, assuming it would be on the trigger.

 

[Elkins45]

there is a group buy going on over at snipershide for left handed versions
i was wondering about the safety too. i hate safety on bolt guns and none of mine have them, so that would be a plus for me. since this thing uses rem700 triggers, i was guessing they left it off the bolt, assuming it would be on the trigger.

Oh, so it doesn't have a safety then? Because nothing says "safe" more than a Remington 700 trigger

I love safety on bolt guns. I've never dropped a rifle out of a 20 foot tree stand, but if I ever do I hope it isn't a rifle with a trigger safety.

My only complaint about my left hand Zastava Mauser is that it has as trigger safety instead of a bolt safety. And since it's LH the threads are opposite from a RH gun, preventing me from just mounting a $20 surplus 98 shroud and aftermarket low safety.

 

[urbaneruralite]

Hey, I said it's good for people that like it. Lots of people prefer to hunt dangerous game with something I wouldn't want for squirrels. Key word there is prefer. Like prefer something that is actually an improvement over previous designs.

I also wondered what happened to the coned breech, but people generally don't seem to care about that, either.

 

[pdd614]

The ARC m2 rifle looks interesting, especially being able to switch the bolt from right to left. The mausingfield just doesn't do anything more than my current actions.

 

[P.B.Walsh]

About the bolt handle, you can take it off and replace it with what ever you want to screw on there, he said that in a video.

He added "field" to the name because of the 1903 fixed blade ejector.

Personally I like it, but it does nothing in particular that my 1903A3 action cannot (besides look better, the Mausingfield is a much prettier action).