No civilian Colts anymore

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That’s because the original contract went to FN and was modified to include Colt thanks to the latter’s longtime military relationship. They were previously undercut by Remington and the current bid per unit is nearly half what Colt originally was charging. That figure, by the way, is under $700 which is likely the same or less profitable than civilian sales profit.


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Look it up, they lost the contract over and over then were suddenly added back in. No secret much of their “leadership” is former military. No secret they used to charge nearly $1,200 per rifle. No secret that figure is now well below $700 with both FN and Remington charging less. No secret they would be permanently shuttered were it not for those contracts.
 
I wonder how long til Colt drops their mediocre new Cobra line of revolvers?
Out of curiosity, have you even actually shot one of the new Colts? They may not be classics, but this old guy (who's owned plenty of revolvers in his day) considers them entirely worthy, hardly "mediocre."
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You know, a lot of people here complaining about Colt's lack of innovation. I don't think Colt's civilian customers want innovation. People do not buy a 1911 because they want innovation; they buy a 1911 for what it is-a 100 year old design. I mean, seriously, how much more "innovation" can you do to a 1911? If you want innovation, buy a plastic gun. The same applies to their revolvers. There isn't much more to innovate there, either. If I recall correctly, Colt made a DA/SA autoloader in the 90s and it flopped.
The Colt All American--not their finest hour.
 
Out of curiosity, have you even actually shot one of the new Colts? They may not be classics, but this old guy (who's owned plenty of revolvers in his day) considers them entirely worthy, hardly "mediocre."
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Yep and they can't hold a candle to Colt's previous double action revolvers. But I guess that is subjective. The point is, if you want one, you better get it now, because I think Colt will drop them. They can't be selling well in today's market. Most younger shooters don't really even think about Colt. After us old guys are gone, there will be no reason for Colt to exist.
 
Could someone please explain how in the world colt is still in business? It just boggles my mind.

Colt is a LLC not like Ruger and S&W, which are publicly traded companies. Colt is in business to provide the business partners a handsome income. They run the company like a hedge fund, taking huge consulting and management fees. Investors have lost millions yet people still want to invest in the company. Who knows why. I guess some people have so much money they can afford to lose it. The tax laws are weird enough that a loss will decrease ones tax burden substantially. So the loss is offset by the reduced tax burden.
 
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Bringing this back from the dead....I went to the local gun store and they had piles for Colt LE6920's. Apparently Colt is releasing AR's back into the civilian market. Or perhaps an overrun?

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Curiously they are all marked .223???

I wonder what that is all about? Kind of reminds me of the Colt Target Sporter days of old.
 
It’s funny you mention a Colt Target Sporter because I just got to handle one recently and it’s going to be for sale soon.
 
Where did you see those?

Ammo Brothers near Los Angeles. They are a local chain of stores.

They don't allow photo's, so I got this one off their IG account. They were pretty much all sold out, but the salesman said they have another batch on the way. It will too busy to check them out, so I did not get to see actual markings on the rifles.
 
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I know where Ammo Brothers is. Friend of mine took me there last time I was in LA.

I thought Colt ARs were banned in Cali by name?
 
Colt lost me years ago when they systematically eliminated everything the American sporting public wanted, i.e. Woodsman, revolvers in ..22, .38, .357, and the great Cobra, Set Spec, Agent, Diamondback, Python, 357, Trooper, and I could go on and on. "Crap on the consumer, we got government contracts". I won't wish failure on them but won't give them money either. I've owned about one of everything there made since 1911 so I think I can speak. Skrooem.
 
"But why buy Colt when you can get an LMT or Bravo Company AR for the same price."

LOL....that's hilarious. Have you looked at the prices of LMT and BCM rifles lately?
If you look at BCM vs Colt rifles with similar features (rail, BUIS and sometimes an upgraded trigger) the Colts are a bit more now. Before they switched to more focusing on military contracts they were about the same price.

You can’t really compare a bare bones Colt 6920 to a tricked out BCM and get lolz. Have to be roughly the same.
 
Colt lost me years ago when they systematically eliminated everything the American sporting public wanted, i.e. Woodsman, revolvers in ..22, .38, .357, and the great Cobra, Set Spec, Agent, Diamondback, Python, 357, Trooper,.......
It was exactly the opposite. Colt discontinued those models due to lack of sales. If the "American sporting public" really wanted those guns, they would have bought them. Colt was too expensive. Eventually plastic semi autos killed the revolver in LE sales, and LE sales have a huge impact on civilian sales.
 
Pretty sure the cost per M4 on my property book back in 2003 was $400 or so, the $700 and higher figures which are being mentioned include the extras, support, mags, parts, etc. Splitting hairs some I know.

Oh, and I think the M9's were $200+ if memory serves me right (it has been a while).
 
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