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I guess the days of recreational hand loading for me could be coming to an end . I started this hobby 20 plus years ago and have enjoyed it immensely . I had the best of both worlds ,a nice hobby for cold winter months and very economical to load . Even if I could get what I needed to load with ,it’s at a ludicrous cost. Luckily for me I have plenty of ammo to last me the rest of my hunting years .many say this will pass and I hope they are right , but in the meantime I will adapt accordingly.
 
Sadly I've taken the year off. I concur at this time. I've got about 17k of primers and more than enough powder. Recently started casting and have amassed about 600lbs of lead.

Recently lost my dog so this next year will be dedicated to intense training of a new puppy and hopefully once completed prices will be whatever normal is.
 
I am just living off my stores. The only thing I have bought since covid-19 started has been 22LR and a few odss and ends of reloading equipment and some bullets. Give the obsolete nature of that cartridge (455 Webley) dies and bullets were not inflated too much and I have primers and powder enough to keep me hunting and shooting competition and for fun for a couple more years with planning.
 
Agreed.
My trapshooting hobby has slowed to a near standstill.
It happened to coincide with a shoulder injury, so I haven't been put off terribly.

I have adapted some:
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More flintlock time. You can shoot all afternoon on a ⅛lb of powder and a handful of billiards .

Why are billiards required to shoot a flinger?
 
My reloading & shooting have slowed to a minimum. I have enough primers at this point to go another 6 to 9 months at this rate.
Every time I go to the range now most of the time is spent picking up brass.
 
I shoot a fair amount of black powder in the spring and summer, but I am still loading and shooting conventional stuff. I am still regaining competency with handguns after dealing with some shoulder problems, so happy to dig into the stash for that. At some point I will get low enough in the stash to cut back, I suppose. Hopefully this nonsense is over by then.

For hunting I easily burn 5 shotshells for each metallic cartridge. I am set for a while, but if I start getting short I will either have to pay the going rate or figure out how to load non tox shells, as I already load lead.
 
Well, this is not my first rodeo so I'm not out of powder and primers, but as with many other folks with the resupply situation being as uncertain as it has been for more than a year now my reloading has slowed to a crawl.

But, I'm not out of the firearms hobby altogether. I have finally built a roundtoit for bullet casting so have been coming up to speed in that regard. In an on-again, off-again way I've collected a few molds, pot, lead and whatnot for years though I never did anything with them other than put them away. When everything dried up it seemed to me the signs were clear so I started rounding up the last of what I needed and got more serious about finding more lead, tin, etc. This has been keeping me occupied nicely.
 
I have changed my shooting considerably. I used to go to the local indoor range 2-3× a week and shoot 150-200 rounds of pistol each time. Now I shoot rifle 2x a month maybe 50 shots total and practice pistol maybe as often 20 or so rounds. I reload everything but my sons 22 so everything is way down.
 
Contrary... my reloading has expanded during this particular shortage, mostly because I refuse to pay $1/rd for something like 5.56mm, or even .7.62mm... so I have expanded into handloading those cartridges, in addition to everything else I load for. Further, my bullet stash has almost doubled... I've managed to build up my handgun bullets in particular, by making reasonable orders and just waiting. Yes, I've had to do a little horse trading, usually to the benefit of both me and the other party... that's how it should work, anyway. I've also had to ponder handloading SD cartridges for my carry pistols, which I would not normally do. I haven't had to use them, yet, but luck favors the prepared.

My shooting is the only thing that's gone down... because of two things... Wuhan Flu bringing everyone home, which has increased my business, and the fact that the shooting events that I would have gone to were cancelled. Good news is, I recently found a pretty decent place to shoot down in town... so now I don't have to wait to go to NV to shoot, so assuming I get a day free of work and Honey-Do's... the potential of shooting is now even better.
 
Even if I could get what I needed to load with ,it’s at a ludicrous cost. Luckily for me I have plenty of ammo to last me the rest of my hunting years .

Makes sense to me, if you had plenty of components to last you the rest of your hunting years and we’re out of factory ammunition, your post would have been in another section and about not buying factory ammunition any longer...

If you didn’t have either components or loaded ammunition, you might find it cost prohibitive to shoot at all, right now.

Your situation “is what it is”.
 
I too have slowed-down greatly in the reloading department recently .... but then again, so has my shooting.

Living waaaay out in the country and having my own range on my property that my family, friends and I have enjoyed over the years, had us in the habit of burning through 1000 training rounds or more per month for a long long time ... but that came to a screeching halt in March of 2020. Now I am pacing myself and reloading almost solely for home defense and personal defense along with adding-to my long range precision hunting loads ... but other than a few thousand training rounds of 9mm, everything else has been purpose driven loads forcing me to take my time and shoot for exactness .... throttling my progressives and relegating me to my turrets and single stage presses once again.

I am under 30k primers for the first time in over a decade (since Obama was first elected I guess) and under 250 pds of powder (in the same frame of time) as well. I've spent a lot of time this past year sorting, cleaning and prepping buckets and buckets and buckets of range brass ... something I never thought I would take the time to-do until this past year. Even broke it down, probably in excess of 70k cases, by headstamp. Was shocked at how much 9mm Winchester White Box Value Pack brass there was out there in this world. Most of my brass having come from two indoor ranges ... after all of that sorting and cleaning and prepping I can tell you, 9mm Winchester White Box Value Pack used to rule. Followed by (but not closely by) R•P then Blazer then .... I'd have to go look. That applies to pistol brass anyways. But I think I have seen every pistol brass head stamp known to man in the past year.

Been doing a lot more casting yet I even find myself running-out-of good old fashioned wheel weights :)::::: sighhhhhh ::::::) but I have gotten-into powder coating over the past year.

Ran out of CCI 41s not long ago ... switched over to some Wolf Magnum SRPs that I had stashed away since probably 2009 or 2010, bought 20k of them from Widener's back in the day ... have found them to be every bit as good as the CCI 41s.

With regard to the projectiles ... I'm doing okay there only because I have restocked occasionally when what I wanted became available. Mostly .224 and 9mm stuff but sometimes some 30 cal or 44 mag or 38/357 jacketed needs and wants.

I worry because I see certain projectiles disappearing and it concerns me that we may not see them again for a long long while .... things like 338 MX and 35 Rem and even proper 30-30 pills. I keep seeing the word "discontinued" used too many times on too many websites of too many online suppliers.

As someone else said, at my age and stage this isn't my first shortage rodeo but this one is a bit more disconcerting and appears to me more long-lasting and and cost-prohibative than any I can remember in the past. That applies to factory ammo of course but especially to reloading components this time. This one has been far and away much worse than '78 or either '94 or '08-'12. I can't speak to the great shortages of '63-'65 as I was barely in double-digits at the time but I do remember my Dad and Grandfather stocking-up ... but stocking-up to them was much different than what my generation has come to know as "stocking-up and being prepared" when it comes to firearms and ammo because my parents and grandparents never dreamed that our 2A Rights were in danger of being taken-away. The words registration and confiscation never crossed their minds much less their lips.

So yeah, I guess I've slowed-down some - I know I have - but I will still keep adding to my stores of certain items, especially primers, as I have now come to the conclusion that you can never ever have too many of certain things.
 
Metallic has been secondary since discovering percussion revolvers some 10 years ago. Several guns equipped with conversion cylinders and a brand new Schofield have kept the center fire fires going ;), but still minimal to percussion.
Not casting dispersions here but 17k of primers would be hog heaven to me in my most active years of pistol shooting. I do not believe I’ve ever had that many in stock at any one time in 45 years of hand loading even back when they were a dollar a hundred.
 
Personally, I'm going to keep shooting "normally" until year's end. If I cannot get primers for something reasonable at that time, I'm going to mothball things until I can. I really hope it doesn't come to that. "reasonable" to me is $50/case.

I've only been reloading since Jan of 2019. During the last bad scare (late 2012), I stopped shooting completely in 2013 and only started up again in late 2014, so nearly 2 years.

This is all these pointless "panics" ever accomplish, they donk up the entire supply system to to point where it is non-functional. It's sad. You'd think people would learn...but they never do.
 
Remington is cranking out 24/7 7 days a week. I’ve seen lots of Remington coming back in stock and seen Remington primers. 3 major ammo company (undisclosed names) will be producing there own primers by the end of Summer. If you guys need to take a time off from the shooting sports, just sit on your components and chill. Don’t panic, or over spend people. Step back, breath, take a walk, go fishing, but just know, things will be back to normal.

Have Hope that you have nothing to lose
 
Reloading is something I do for fun, cost savings is a secondary benefit. Thus, I would load even if it cost significantly more than factory ammo. I take my time and savor every step -- I'm slow and methodical. I get alot out of it.

I'm always hunting for deals, but I'm willing to pay elevated prices to avoid disrupting my hobby. Obviously there is a point where it becomes cost prohibitive, but I will pay $0.10 - $0.12 each for primers without hesitation.
 
So far I'm running about normal this year as far as getting out to the range. Actually, I'm shooting more than last year since the range was closed for half the summer in 2020 due to the pandemic and didn't get out much. I finally worked my way through what I loaded over the winter 2019-2020 that was for shooting in 2020. Also having fun casting and working up new loads for the new powders I found in stock. Fortunately, I was able to source components at reasonable prices last summer before prices went through the roof.
 
Obviously there is a point where it becomes cost prohibitive
Yeppers, and the "point" where that hobby, or any hobby "becomes cost prohibitive" is obviously different for each of us. I'm one of those handloaders that will probably never have to pay "$0.10 to $0.12 each for primers" because I stocked up when they were "cheap." But I'm old, so my kids and grandkids will probably inherit what's left of my stockpile when I'm gone.;)
 
I didn't start reloading to save money. There have been time where I have saved money, but for me it was about building loads to my specifications, not Winchester's, Remington's, or Federal's. My first deer rifle was a Rem. 742 Carbine, and factory loads produced a fireball from that 18 1/2" barrel. Wasted powder, wasted power. I developed my own load of IMR 3031 for it that not only was more accurate than any factory load I fired through it, but didn't make fireballs (firebilliards?), nor beat me or the action up more than necessary.
I reload Trap loads to save some money over premium loads (my Ljutic does not like steel-based promo loads, though it seems to tolerate Rem. Gun Clubs, which the future of is uncertain) but since the cost of components have risen, and/or they have become unavailable, I too have cut my Trapshooting down, and loading for it. Shot ran out here about 2 months ago, I have 4 bags coming from a friend at a reasonable price, but it might be a few weeks.
10 cents each for primers? Not a big deal, my LGS has been at that for 209's for while now, and I grab a box (100, his daily limit per person) whenever I stop in. If he had AA's, I'd pay what he's charging for Fed. Gold Medals now. When I run through the 4# of Green Dot and 1# of 700-x I have left, then it's pony up for powder form the online sources time. (The hazmat is the kicker!) :mad:
As far as shooting, yes, less rifle and pistol range time, enough to keep accuracy up. Less rounds of Trap per league night, down to 3-4 from 10+, and only one ATA event planned this year, which is what I did last year, but I was hoping to shoot more ATA targets, and visit more Trap clubs in my area. :(
 
The only thing I have bought since covid-19 started has been 22LR

I bought a good bit of ammo back when covid started. Prices were bottomed out till may or so last year. Haven't bought anything since . I don't think I've loaded anything except a couple hundred light 44 magnums in 2-3 years.

Granted, I'm one who only loads so they can shoot high volume. I think I actually hate reloading. Lol. If I can get .40 for 9-15 dollars a box and 223 for 5-6 a box...... then I'm not reloading . And I don't shoot 338/460/7mm ultra/ etc etc enough to reload very often.
 
Things seem to be turning around as far as ammo some locally. There are times when reloading supplies are in stock on line too. Seems most things ammo related just dried up last June or so. I expect the next 6 months to be on and off availability but am optimistic we have turned the corner on this. The next big pill will be the inflation of all goods and ones lack of funds to purchase non necessary goods. We will see! As Kenny said "you gotta know when to hold em" and these days I'll wait for the market to stabilize before jumping back in.
 
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