No politics on THR? Yeah, right...

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In another thread, on the second amendment and the meaning of militia, moderator Jeff White closed it down after a member posted to the thread how a current politician defined the second amendment, with the motivation that politics are never discussed here. Why is it that moderators always have to act like dictators on the Internet? I was booted from another gun forum a month ago after having pointed out inconsistencies in the rulings of the dictator-like moderators there.

Every other thread here is about Obama, or urgent calls to sign petitions drawn up by politicians and law makers regarding the current gun laws, or the politics of the gun companies in their doings. What I'm saying is that everything on this gun forum relates to politics in one way or the other. To irratically close down a thread like moderator Jeff White did doesn't belong in a democratic meeting place such as this. Can't we discuss freely gun related topics? Is Jeff White the Web Master of his own server, or has he misunderstood his duties and privelegies? With this thread, the purpose is not to single out moderator Jeff White, but rather start a healthy discussion of what moderators can and can't do.

What do you all think about this?
 
Good grief. :rolleyes:

Political discussion are not banned outright per se. But a very much greater standard of being "gun-related" must be adhered to in such topics. When the topic is politically charged, even the smallest amount of thread drift away from very strict gun-related content will get the thread closed.

Just like this one is about to be.


-T.
 
Why is it that moderators always have to act like dictators on the Internet?
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Because this is their kingdom and they can rule it as they see fit. IF they drop the iron fist of injustice on you, too bad. You are here because of Oleg's good will and his moderators carry out his mission statement as they see fit. Your options are complain in PMs, voice your opinion with your feet, or accept that there are rules on the forum (like in life) that you may not like and if you want to play the game you have to abide by them.

start a healthy discussion of what moderators can and can't do.
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hahaha, that was funny and not at all OT.
 
In another thread, on the second amendment and the meaning of militia, moderator Jeff White closed it down after a member posted to the thread how a current politician defined the second amendment, with the motivation that politics are never discussed here. Why is it that moderators always have to act like dictators on the Internet? I was booted from another gun forum a month ago after having pointed out inconsistencies in the rulings of the dictator-like moderators there.

Every other thread here is about Obama, or urgent calls to sign petitions drawn up by politicians and law makers regarding the current gun laws, or the politics of the gun companies in their doings. What I'm saying is that everything on this gun forum relates to politics in one way or the other. To irratically close down a thread like moderator Jeff White did doesn't belong in a democratic meeting place such as this. Can't we discuss freely gun related topics? Is Jeff White the Web Master of his own server, or has he misunderstood his duties and privelegies? With this thread, the purpose is not to single out moderator Jeff White, but rather start a healthy discussion of what moderators can and can't do.

What do you all think about this?
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I think that you are upset at Moderator Jeff White. I know that this isn't a democratic meeting place (it's Olegs' place, his rules). I know that when we had a politics forum (legal/political) it was kinda like being in a bar......at 4:00 am......when the fishermen and loggers are both in town.... and I know...........IBTL...
 
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I started a thread about helping the victims of socialism in Wisconsin, to write Governor Jim Doyle and lecture him on the 2nd, and that's been running for weeks along with other non-gun, all-political threads started by others. To talk about the absurd politics of California is what we all do every day in here, without objections from any of the moderators. Jeff White acted out of personal interests and closed the thread I'm talking about down. THAT behaviour is questionable.

Yeah, close this thread down. That would just prove my point... :banghead:
 
The sister site of this one, APS, has a forum just for political discussions, and many THR members are there as well. You can just pretend you're here.
http://www.armedpolitesociety.com/

Though I will say, you seem to be lookin for another banning with the way you're calling out Jeff in public as opposed to PM. Your post count indicates you're pretty new. Just chill out a bit and you'll have a much better time. :)
 
Step #1 - aquire domain name.
Step #2 - contract hosting services
Step #3 - run your board however you want
 
What do you all think about this?
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I think you're wasting space talking about this instead of something more fun.

democratic meeting place such as this.
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I'm never sure why people think that a discussion forum is some kind of open door freedom society.

These sites, all of them, are running on some server somewhere, usually in a datacenter, at the expense of their owners.

As such they are clearly private property and the moderation and content allowed is solely up to the owner/s.

It's not some kind of democracy where you get to vote out things you don't like.

If you are unhappy with any Internet forum then you have a few choices:

a) shut up and deal with it
b) quit and find another
c) quit and start your own
d) complain til you are banned

If you don't like it then just move on down the road. There are plenty of other forums with varying rules. Eventually you'll find one that suits you or you will learn to just deal with it.

It's that simple, you really are a guest here as are all the rest of us.

It's hardly worth getting torqued up over.
 
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In your first post I think you did single out Jeff White by asking why internet moderators always have to act like "dictators". See Rule 4 above. If you want a discussion on what moderators can and can't do here talk to the moderators, not us. THR is not a democracy and you have to follow their rules or you will find yourself shown to the door.

Having said that, why don't you give THR a chance? This is the most well mannered forum I have been on and the vast majority of us want it to stay that way. The moderators are the ones responsible for making that happen and most of us think they do a great job.
 
Perhaps you should understand that this is not your personal playground. It belongs to someone else, and they're kind enough to let you play here for free.

When you own the playground, you can set your own rules. The mods here do it as an unpaid public service, not for your pleasure.

I for one am quite pleased that those who feel the need to wander from the straight and narrow path get their privates whacked. If want bickering and whining, I'll call my ex-wife.
 
How much do Moderators make?

I'm willing to bet the pay aint all that much.
Cut the guy some slack!
 
If you think it's even slightly political, why not just post it over on APS? Seriously, there is a forum for that. You're not going to change the rules by ranting about them.
 
This forum isn't a democracy. It's an Olegarchy. He chooses to run his forum how he wants. The moderators are just trying to help run the forum according to the rules. I don't know if you already have, but it seems more appropriate to talk to the moderators via PM. And the examples of politics like the petition are OK because it is for the purpose of activism. Either way, compared to other forums everything is run pretty well here.
 
On THR,

We do not publicly moan & groan about moderation.

If you have a complaint with a moderator, or do not understand the mods actions, the correct course of action is to take it up with him or her via PM.

If you are not satisfied, you may appeal to the site owner, Oleg Volk.
 
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