Non lethal ways of defending against dogs
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That would help with a charge for possession for unlawful use, but not one of unlawful use per se. The Federal law simply states that the use for a purpose other than intended simply be "knowing and willful" for it to be unlawful.
Stick with pepper spray, you can nearly beat a dog to death and they wont give up. I found that out the hard way was walking and had my kitten some jerk's dog gets loose decided to attack my cat, cat clawed its way up to my shoulder and my steel toe boot met the mutt's skull atleast 8 times and it STILL kept coming at this point i was ready to just brain the darn thing with a rock so I pick up a stick and give a nice good downward swing that would have killed any human dog just falls over stunned and I walk on my way, albeit covered in fairly deep scratches.
ID-shooting
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You are much nicer than I, barking, aggressive dog. We go the other way. Dog contacts my dog, kid, wife, dogs life is forfeit.
Gentlemen I thank you for your responses. I never carried the spray but many of the members here have carry permits. I have never shot anyones dog either and would not like to. Maybe it is just a tough situation to face. I once had a pit bull attack my dog and maul him badly enough to need a vet. If I had any weapon I would have defended both me and my dog, and come what may.
joecil
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Fill a squirt gun with ammonia and aim for the nose. They won't ever think of running after anything again. A gentler method is to carry a ball of peanut butter toss it to them when they approach. Most dogs can't deal with how it sticks to the inside of their mouth.
simonstough
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i think that the pepper spray would be the best although it might cut your trip short if that beautiful aussie mix catches wind of it, personally i would have just shot the wolf hybrids due to negative personal experience.
jahwarrior
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I think my response would depend on the offending dog.
I've had trouble with irresponsible owners and their dogs on a few occasions. My own dog was a medium sized Jack Russell/beagle mix. For dogs of similar or smaller size, OC spray would be enough. Twice, though, we were confronted by large dogs, a German Shepard and a pit bull mix. I wouldn't count on spray to work on them, and was ready to shoot. Luckily, their owners managed to get them under control before I had to. I gently reminded them that PA has leash laws, and that they were lucky I was in no rush to kill an animal.
So yeah, spray for small dogs, but I wouldn't count on it for large ones. Check your local laws, though; in PA, it's legal to kill nuisance/dangerous animals.
I've had trouble with irresponsible owners and their dogs on a few occasions. My own dog was a medium sized Jack Russell/beagle mix. For dogs of similar or smaller size, OC spray would be enough. Twice, though, we were confronted by large dogs, a German Shepard and a pit bull mix. I wouldn't count on spray to work on them, and was ready to shoot. Luckily, their owners managed to get them under control before I had to. I gently reminded them that PA has leash laws, and that they were lucky I was in no rush to kill an animal.
So yeah, spray for small dogs, but I wouldn't count on it for large ones. Check your local laws, though; in PA, it's legal to kill nuisance/dangerous animals.
bubba in ca
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I used to walk with a substantial walking stick ( a 5 ft. length of closet rod) and tap it vertically on the ground when a dog looked menacing. They seem to understand that that means you don't want to be messed with.
Another thing that worked when a dimrod said the usual " My dog doesn't bite" was to look at him intently and say "Neither does my lawyer". He grabbed his unleashed dog and left.
Another thing that worked when a dimrod said the usual " My dog doesn't bite" was to look at him intently and say "Neither does my lawyer". He grabbed his unleashed dog and left.
BigN
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I saw a pit bull get whacked across the snout by a steel expandable baton last weekend. They're illegal here for all but the police but the pit bull didn't care for it and took off quickly. By the way, it was a policeman that was attacked by the dog and he was the one who whacked it. Looked like a handy little tool to have on your belt. On their second trip to the house, the dog got tazered and they put it in a van and took it away, haven't seen it since.
lemaymiami
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Anyone that thinks whacking a pit bull on the nose will deter one.... should re-think that idea long before needing to try it out. The only time I did that (with a catch pole and in uniform...) the animal backed up a step then began to approach again. Just as I was planning on using my sidearm, pitbull #2 showed up and they began circling... I ended up inside my vehicle waiting for Animal Control... Consider myself fortunate the car was available since otherwise it would have been a shooting situation (and lots of paperwork...).
True pits aren't very large (a bit larger than a large beagle) but very determined. Properly raised they're not much of a threat -but far too many aren't properly raised or trained at all...
True pits aren't very large (a bit larger than a large beagle) but very determined. Properly raised they're not much of a threat -but far too many aren't properly raised or trained at all...
sidheshooter
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Slightly OT (and I do NOT recommend carry of these) but Nunchaku will work wonders on an aggressive dog. Just so you all know. 
And end you up in trouble with the police in many jurisdictions.
rbernie
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How does a body go about carrying a ball of peanut butter?
Deltaboy1984
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In the country we use ammonia in a spray bottle. It worked.
TimboKhan
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No offense folks, but why would you advocate buying wasp spray or making up an ammonia solution when pepper spray is legal, cheap, effective and also usable on human targets should you need it? I understand and appreciate alternative solutions and homemade remedies in some situations, but in this case it just seems silly to me.
I would agree that the real issue is people not following leash laws. My situation is the opposite. My dog is not dog friendly at all. He is alway leashed, but when unleashed dogs come to sniff him, its game on. Luckily he is 13 pounds of terrier terror and so i just pick him up when I see trouble coming, but it aggravates me that those dogs aren't on leash. Your dog may be great, my dog is kind of a jerk.
As a sidenote, he has tried to fight any dog he sees including wolfhounds, and also horses, cows, and as of a couple of days ago a camel. Friendliest little jerk in the world to adults and kids (including babies) but not at all tolerant of other beasts. Whatever, he is my buddy and I love him just the way he is.
Here is a picture of him. His name is Auto.
sent from my Galaxy Note II.
I would agree that the real issue is people not following leash laws. My situation is the opposite. My dog is not dog friendly at all. He is alway leashed, but when unleashed dogs come to sniff him, its game on. Luckily he is 13 pounds of terrier terror and so i just pick him up when I see trouble coming, but it aggravates me that those dogs aren't on leash. Your dog may be great, my dog is kind of a jerk.
As a sidenote, he has tried to fight any dog he sees including wolfhounds, and also horses, cows, and as of a couple of days ago a camel. Friendliest little jerk in the world to adults and kids (including babies) but not at all tolerant of other beasts. Whatever, he is my buddy and I love him just the way he is.
Here is a picture of him. His name is Auto.
sent from my Galaxy Note II.
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Deltaboy1984
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I promote homemade cause it is cheaper and there are areas here in the South you can't just walk in and get pepper spray. Cute loveable dog too.
BUT you can order it in from anywhere and as long as it is legal to carry in your state you shouldn't have any problems using it for animal control.
TimboKhan
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The nursing home across the street from where I live had camels out for the folks to look at and pet. When he walked by with Vickie she said he turned apoplectic with doggie rage and was doing everything he could to get away from her so he could attack them.
sent from my Galaxy Note II.
sent from my Galaxy Note II.
Timbo, one of mine gets like that two. 12 pounds and only three legs, loves people, but has the rage when meeting any other dog (horses too). Even tried to pick a fight with a pit bull once, though said pit was properly leashed and a bit...derp. Just sat there smiling with his tongue out and eyes crossed while mine's barking up a storm.
As an old telephone splicer for over 30yrs I've had many dogs want to chew on me especially with a tool belt on. I would never use pepper spray. Pepper spray makes the dog more aggressive and I've seen one sprayed, run into the yard and some little kid wrap their arms around it. People don't take kindly to kids with pepper spray on them. I used the old MSA Wasp Stopper. Worked very well, no lasting effects and no kiddies harmed.
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