Not an example of good gun safety!

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spazman

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Hi folks,

When I was at the range with my new Savage, a couple of bubbas drove up and came out with a Cricket .22 and a brand new, fresh from the gun shop .223 tacticool collapsible rifle. They said they'd always used .22s and this was a new experience for them.

The guy opens up the shipping box with his gun in it, unfolds it, loads a mag with 5 rounds (the max, I observed), and assumes "the position" at his target downrange.

Click.

The round didn't fire. The dude pulls back the charging handle and looks inside, then sticks his finger in the breech, trying to pull the cartridge out. He shakes the gun above his head, trying to work it out, with his buddy holding the stock and shaking too. Finally they get it out, put it back in the magazine, and charge the rifle with the same bum cartridge. It fired that time... but I was frightened I might have to call 911 and drive one of these fools (or my buddy I came to the range with) to the end of the dirt road, down the mountain.

Me and my bud left after that.

Not an example of good gun safety!

Spaz
 
... And I didn't read anything in the local paper about an accidental shooting, so the Darwin Award passed them by.

I don't mean to make a big deal of it, but sticking your face or finger behind a .223 that's just been struck is a recipe for trouble. Shaking a loaded gun to get the cartridge out is not wise either. These boys did not know what they were doing.
 
Shaking a loaded gun to get the cartridge out is not wise either.
Never seen someone pogo an AR I take it. While maybe not the brightest thing I have heard of it is far better than looking down the bore... Would it have been safer in your mind to run a rod down the barrel and tap out the round?
 
Live round stuck in an AR?
-rack, rack, rack
-still in. Try shooting it again.
-still in. Let it chill and later put a rod down the bore with the action open. Push gun barrel into ground to push rod through, don't use your hand.

I've never had this problem with real rifles. Never had anything stick in an AR.

I have seen plenty of .22LR rifles get one stuck. My .22LR won't extract live rounds well. So if I have a round that won't fire it may stick in. But open action, slide rod in, push rifle and rod into the ground allways pops those out.
 
Which way was it pointing?

I learned to always keep some basic tools with me at the range. Even a basic leatherman will help a lot. Most of the time you don't need anything fancy.
 
As long as the muzzle was pointed in a safe direction, I don't see a problem

He didn't let a dud cartridge wait a few before performing his antics. Round could have hangfired and caused all sorts of problems for future hot dates.

I've never had this problem with real rifles. Never had anything stick in an AR.

You're lucky. I had a couple out of spec cases get stuck in my AR and it took considerable force to get them out. Also had a blown primer lodge in my chamber.
 
At least the dude wasn't trying to dig the cartridge out with a pocketknife while looking down the muzzle,,,
 
He didn't let a dud cartridge wait a few before performing his antics. Round could have hangfired and caused all sorts of problems for future hot dates.

How long should he have waited? I've never seen a hangfire wait more than a few moments with smokeless. Usually less than a second. Even with the nastiest Turk 8x57JS that hung every other round. As I understand it, there aren't embers involved as they would be with a smoke pole.
 
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