Not Cap Guns, But They Are From 1861 & Will Be Digesting Black Powder - New Dawg Toys

[Prairie Dawg]

Are these cool or what!
Too nice for the likes of me!
Just got them in the other day!
--Dawg

Description:
Something for the Mississippi Riverboat Gambler.

This complete rig consists of 2 Uhlinger Six Shot Single Action Revolvers.
Converted from .32 Rimfire to .32 Centerfire. Now fires .32 S&W Short or .32 S&W Long

Uhlinger manufactured pistols between 1861 and 1865. It is estimated that he manufactured approximately 10,000 pistols in three variations, long cylinder 22 caliber rimfire, short cylinder 22 caliber rimfire and a 32 caliber rimfire.

The rig also includes a Rudy Lozano Black Hills Leather Custom made suspender holsters.

Specs:
Make: Uhlinger - Qty 2.
Model: Single Action Six Shot Revolvers
Serial Numbers: 272 and 1199.
Year of Manufacture: Approx. 1861 - 1862
Caliber: .32 S&W Short or .32 S&W Long Centerfire
Cylinders: The Cylinders and cylinder pins are newly manufactured from modern steel to handle the modern .32 caliber smokeless powder.
The original cylinders are included as well as the original cylinder pins.
Action Type: Single Action
Barrel Length: 5 "
Sights: Blade Front -- Frame Groove Rear
Stocks: Faux Ivory custom made by Tacoma Jack. Including the original Walnut serial numbered grips.
Type of Finish: Nickel Plate.
Bore Condition: Very good
Overall Condition: Very Good
Mechanics: The actions are quite smooth.

Pics:

 

[Dframe]

Those revolvers are beautiful.

 

[Tommygunn]

Pics of the UNholstered guns please!!!!

 

[GarySTL]

Very nice pistols. And I like the suspender holsters.

 

[damoc]

very nice how does the harness work? do you slide your pants belt through those keyhole like slots?

 

[sltm1]

Good score !!!

 

[elhombreconnonombre]

It looks like the rig would be anchored via those keyholed button holes to buttons on the front and back waistband of the trousers. I would like to see some pics of how the holsters are attached to the rig.

 

[Gaucho Gringo]

Very nice looking outfit, both the leather and the guns. I like the fact that this something you don't see everyday and the execution of both is stunning. Looking around the internet on your guns I did not see any examples as good as yours. I assume you had them redone but just to get the base guns before the work would be fairly pricey. Wish I had them as I like to shoot .32 S&W BP loads that I make in my 3 break tops and my 1849 repo with a conversion cylinder. My wife does too. You are a lucky man, thanks for sharing.

 

[whughett]

Heck just wish I could find some S&W 32short for my Remingnton pocket pistol with its conversion cylinder. I'd settle for just the brass. :

 

[Prairie Dawg]

32 brass -- he does not say if its short or long -- maybe its short.:
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=466035882

Holsters are held on by 4 Chicago screws.
There is a piece of leather between the suspender strap and the screw heads.
The screw heads inside the holster are under the lining.
--Dawg

 

[whughett]

Just by appearance it is long. 32 short are about the same length as the auto stuff and the auto stuff will actually chamber and shoot in an old tip I have. (I don't make that a practice)

 

[Surculus]

It looks like the rig would be anchored via those keyholed button holes to buttons on the front and back waistband of the trousers.

Yep, that's how suspenders work. Pants designed for them typically have buttons sewn on the inside of the waistband to anchor them [that way, the buttons won't interfere w/ a belt, if the wearer prefers belts to suspenders.]

Don't go thinking the suspenders are for a midget: "waistlines" were worn much higher then than they are today [well, that's not saying much: recent styles have had pants fair sliding off the slackers' backsides! ]

 

[whughett]

Suspenders are a must for those of us who no longer have a waist .Just belly and no butt .

 

[Gaucho Gringo]

Unfortunately, I fall into that category now after wearing a size 32 waist in pants for almost 40 years. Some of my gun belts now longer fit.

 

[whughett]

Gringo.........
Have u/would u try 32ACP in that IJ tip up. Have the same piece and have shot auto stuff in it.Not a bunch but they do work and quite well. Mine is nickled.
OP: Pardon the off topic. Don't mean to hijac .............

 

[kBob]

Nice looking rig and guns. I would like to see the guns unholstered perhaps a shot of both showing either side.

re:32ACP I wonder if any of the folks up in Revolvers (Modern ones that is) that are having trouble finding .32S&W might not hand load for their .32s using BP in .32Cases?

-kBob

 

[whughett]

Quote: Nice looking rig and guns. I would like to see the guns unholstered perhaps a shot of both showing either side.

There was another photo of just the guns. I would like to see a known object alongside for scale. IE: Are these the same size as my Remington pocket or ..........?

What ever they are a nice looking brace of pistols. Color me green .

 

[kBob]

For what ever reason no additional picture or link to a picture of just the guns is showing up for me.

-kBob

 

[Jim K]

Please don't fire factory .32 ACP in a revolver made for .32 S&W or .32 S&W Long! .32 ACP runs 6-7k psi pressure more than the .32 S&W, or 20,500 vs 14,000. At best, an old revolver will shoot loose; at worst, it might let go and destroy the gun or injure the shooter.

Yes, it would be OK to load .32 ACP brass to .32 S&W levels or even use black powder, but I am not a fan of mismatched brass and loads; too much chance of making a mistake.

KBob, the picture is very wide; see if there is a bar at the bottom of your screen that you can "slide" to the right to see the rest of the picture.

Jim

 

[Driftwood Johnson]

Prairie Dawg:

Did I see somewhere that you bought these pistols from Happy Trails?

I know Hap very well. Did he make the new cylinders? I bought a pair of Merwin Hulberts from Hap a few years ago, also with new cylinders he made from modern steel. I don't know what you paid for the rig, but if you got it from Hap, I suspect he gave you a very good deal. That's just the kind of guy he is. I also suspect, if you bought them from Hap, the new cylinders will be fine with mild Smokeless loads.

 

[damoc]

Please don't fire factory .32 ACP in a revolver made for .32 S&W or .32 S&W Long! .32 ACP runs 6-7k psi pressure more than the .32 S&W, or 20,500 vs 14,000. At best, an old revolver will shoot loose; at worst, it might let go and destroy the gun or injure the shooter.

Yes, it would be OK to load .32 ACP brass to .32 S&W levels or even use black powder, but I am not a fan of mismatched brass and loads; too much chance of making a mistake.

KBob, the picture is very wide; see if there is a bar at the bottom of your screen that you can "slide" to the right to see the rest of the picture.

Jim

I dont think at least i hope no one is talking about using factory 32 acp loads in a BP revolver but using the cases with BP and lead bullets is fine the worst i could say is that
some gases could slip through the case/chamber but under experimentation this did not happen

 

[Prairie Dawg]

Hi Driftwood:
Yep, Hap is a great guy & a wonderful smith.
I've bought several guns from him in the past, all really nice.
And he's worked on several of my guns.'
He did make new cylinder for them and sent me some of his mild 32 S&W and 32 S&W Long loads.
They are sooooo cool!
--Dawg

 

[4v50 Gary]

They look brand new.

 

[Prairie Dawg]

Hap had them nickeled, the old frames/barrels & the new cylinders. He had a set of aged ivory grips made for them.
They're really splendid!
--Dawg

 

[Driftwood Johnson]

Howdy Again Prairie Dawg

I don't want to hijack your thread, but since we're talking about Happy Trails, here is the pair of Merwin Hulberts he sold me a few years ago. Hap had them nickel plated and they have new cylinders he made from modern steel. They are not museum pieces, Hap reworked them heavily. I suspect he used the same guy to make the faux ivory grips too.