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Sinsaba
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Smurfslayer said:I hate to see you guys give money to the cheesy anit-gun alpha hotels at C&E.
If someone could post back if they are still confiscating ammunition, it could be useful.
Sinsaba- I'm thinking you need a poll in the shotgun forum...
Doh!!
As far as "confiscating ammunition"... 1) is it confiscation if they give it back? and 2) at least this time they have it very prominently displayed on their web site that you can't bring loaded mags into the hall (I don't think they say anything about speed loaders though
)As far as "anti-gun" ... I have to wonder about that assessment. I'm trying to figure out any company being "anti-gun" to start with. As I see it companies have as their purpose the making of money. Pro/Anti doesn't enter into it. Yes I'm sure there are some exceptions. But it seems a bit far fetched to me that a company would be a) anti enough to knowingly cost themsleves business and at the same time b) be in the business of hosting shows to sell guns. It just doesn't sound sensible to me.
What does sound sensible to me is that you have a company that holds gun shows and makes as much money as they possibly can from them. Finding that insurance, permits, or whatever will cost them less at the Dulles expo if they don't let the people have loaded mags thy decide the risk of offending a few people enough to keep them away is outweighed by the savings.
While Occam's Razor is not the be all and end all of logic it is certainly a principal to keep in mind (and the way the smart money bets)
Just my $.02 (awww... what the heck... make that $.50)
Sinsaba
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Smurfslayer said:
Thanks for setting that up!!
pauli
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well i'm off to go stand in line. i wish it was warm enough to wear distinctive clothing...
pauli
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well i'm home. met mattdus and his wife, who were as easy to identify as he indicated (lots of wheelchairs there, but only one was purple), and had a good time talking to them.
hopefully i'll find some of the rest of you people tomorrow or sunday.
i got a copy of the abc's of reloading (sixth edition) for $5, a locking hardcase big enough for at least two guns for $34, and a 22 revolver: http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=166612
and i even got it back in the house before anybody could notice!
hopefully i'll find some of the rest of you people tomorrow or sunday.
i got a copy of the abc's of reloading (sixth edition) for $5, a locking hardcase big enough for at least two guns for $34, and a 22 revolver: http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=166612
and i even got it back in the house before anybody could notice!
KONY
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Pauli,
Nice .22 wheelgun! Just don't let hightech see it!
Anyhow, did anyone see any deals on Wolf 7.62x39mm ammo?
Nice .22 wheelgun! Just don't let hightech see it!
Anyhow, did anyone see any deals on Wolf 7.62x39mm ammo?
mattdus
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made it home from the show finaly, I managed to make a left when I should have gone right 
. I thought it was a great show except for the no loaded weapons part, but I can live with that. I picked up a taurus 85 .357 for $289 as well as a holster, speed loaders and a box of .38 Hydra-Shok JHP. and I stayed almost within budget too . I met Pauli and must say that he is a pretty good guy, hope to meet some more of you at some point.
. I thought it was a great show except for the no loaded weapons part, but I can live with that. I picked up a taurus 85 .357 for $289 as well as a holster, speed loaders and a box of .38 Hydra-Shok JHP. and I stayed almost within budget too . I met Pauli and must say that he is a pretty good guy, hope to meet some more of you at some point.pauli
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so you went with the taurus after all?
i'm headed back to the show... in my bright orange ars technica tshirt. granted i've got a blue flanel shirt over it, but hey, it's cold out! hopefully someone will identify me...
i'm headed back to the show... in my bright orange ars technica tshirt. granted i've got a blue flanel shirt over it, but hey, it's cold out! hopefully someone will identify me...
mattdus
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yup, the Taurus won out, but only after I found a .357 for a better price than I have seen them go for in .38. although I will probably never put a .357 through it I feel like a gun built to take the .357 will likely last forever running just boring old .38 special through it.
Sinsaba
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I'm about as mad as a wet hen 
Got to the show today. I had decided to sell the Steyr that I bought from Luke. Since I fell into the G19 I do't carry the Steyr any more and it would bring me the funds to buy a shotgun! I finally sold it (I even got my price) and I even spotted an 870 for a good price $280. But, it took so long to sell the Steyr that I ran out of time to buy the 870 (they were running 40 min. to get the check done). I had prior commitments that just couldn't be put off.
Just one of those days! :banghead:
Got to the show today. I had decided to sell the Steyr that I bought from Luke. Since I fell into the G19 I do't carry the Steyr any more and it would bring me the funds to buy a shotgun! I finally sold it (I even got my price) and I even spotted an 870 for a good price $280. But, it took so long to sell the Steyr that I ran out of time to buy the 870 (they were running 40 min. to get the check done). I had prior commitments that just couldn't be put off.Just one of those days! :banghead:
JamisJockey
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HUNT QUESTION
Anyone have a link to where I can find the VA hunting rules online? My specific questions are muzzle-loader related. I'm hoping to buy one for here, but need to make sure that the specific type of gun (inline 209 primer fired) is legal there.
Anyone have a link to where I can find the VA hunting rules online? My specific questions are muzzle-loader related. I'm hoping to buy one for here, but need to make sure that the specific type of gun (inline 209 primer fired) is legal there.
pauli
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http://www.dgif.virginia.gov/hunting/regulations/index.asp
near as i can tell, virginia just requires that your muzzleloader... be a muzzle loader. and, i suppose, have an 18" barrel and be of at least .23 caliber, but those aren't generally problems...
near as i can tell, virginia just requires that your muzzleloader... be a muzzle loader. and, i suppose, have an 18" barrel and be of at least .23 caliber, but those aren't generally problems...
Smurfslayer
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No worries Mike...
Shooter's purgatory has the 8 shot 870 express for 300 IIRC, and 280 for either the express or police model 870 can be had...
Another benefit of Dale city - not so big a crowd that you have to wait more than 10 minutes for a background check...
Not sure if this helps anybody but the Hybla Valley WalMart had Winchester 7.62x39... looked pricey. Rem. Slugger 12ga for $2.27 / 5, Winchester .223 $3.97/40. YMMV. No entrance fee at Walmart
They had an 870, but I wasn't able to see the price. the 20 gauge was a little over 200 as I recall.
Shooter's purgatory has the 8 shot 870 express for 300 IIRC, and 280 for either the express or police model 870 can be had...
Another benefit of Dale city - not so big a crowd that you have to wait more than 10 minutes for a background check...
Not sure if this helps anybody but the Hybla Valley WalMart had Winchester 7.62x39... looked pricey. Rem. Slugger 12ga for $2.27 / 5, Winchester .223 $3.97/40. YMMV. No entrance fee at Walmart
They had an 870, but I wasn't able to see the price. the 20 gauge was a little over 200 as I recall.
22s REIGN
pauli it sounds like you picked up on a post war, k22 masterpiece, series 3. From the SN I would say it was manufactured in 1956 or 57. Smith started with the model number system in 1957 and k22 masterpieces became model 17s.
Ok here is the skinny. I picked up my lates addition, check it out Pauli, a S&W 17-3 from wild and wonderful WV. On to the show where I picked up two storage bags, a S&W screw driver set and yes I broke the bank and purchsed 
a Taurus model 651, blued steel, 357 mag, 2 inch equivlant of S&w bodyguard. I was looking at a S&W airweight at one dealer and the Taurus at another and both Andy and I thought that the Taurus trigger pull was much better. I later showed it to WellRegulated [I still think he eats a lot of fiber] and he said it was one of the best Taurus factory jobs he has seen.
So that is it. I will have three [3] new toys on Wed for anyone to try. Pauli come on down to the NRA and you can try my S&W K22 series 3, S&W model 17, and Taurus 651.
When will this stop?
pauli it sounds like you picked up on a post war, k22 masterpiece, series 3. From the SN I would say it was manufactured in 1956 or 57. Smith started with the model number system in 1957 and k22 masterpieces became model 17s.
Ok here is the skinny. I picked up my lates addition, check it out Pauli, a S&W 17-3 from wild and wonderful WV.
On to the show where I picked up two storage bags, a S&W screw driver set and yes I broke the bank and purchsed a Taurus model 651, blued steel, 357 mag, 2 inch equivlant of S&w bodyguard. I was looking at a S&W airweight at one dealer and the Taurus at another and both Andy and I thought that the Taurus trigger pull was much better. I later showed it to WellRegulated [I still think he eats a lot of fiber] and he said it was one of the best Taurus factory jobs he has seen. So that is it. I will have three [3] new toys on Wed for anyone to try. Pauli come on down to the NRA and you can try my S&W K22 series 3, S&W model 17, and Taurus 651.
When will this stop?
KONY
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Sinsaba said:I'm about as mad as a wet hen
Just one of those days! :banghead:
Sinsaba,
Sorry to hear about missing out on the 870. However, you still have a chance for tomorrow. I totally understand the decision on the Steyr. Too bad I won't get the chance to shoot it anymore. I almost bought the one being sold locally with traditional 3-dot night sights.
KONY
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hightech said:yes I broke the bank and purchsed
So that is it. I will have three [3] new toys on Wed for anyone to try. Pauli come on down to the NRA and you can try my S&W K22 series 3, S&W model 17, and Taurus 651.
Cool! I get to try this one out. I've been itching to try out the Taurus J-frames to see how much better the trigger is as many report that it is really noticeable.
Sinsaba
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hightech said:... I will have three [3] new toys on Wed for anyone to try. Pauli come on down to the NRA and you can try my S&W K22 series 3, S&W model 17, and Taurus 651.
When will this stop?
There was discussion to posponing Wednesday to Friday this month. Was that a go?
Sinsaba
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KONY said:
Actually I'm booked up on Sunday. I guess it is "you snooze you lose". Of course they had the Kross stock/pistol grip assembly there too.
I guess I'll just have to go shooting on Monday to cheer myself up
Smurfslayer
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So, how was the door staff at the show?
I do NOT want to have anything to do with an automobile 11/23... it promises to be very, very busy. 11/25 would be ok with me...
Gunny want to sponsor the GOW? that would make it a GGOW. One each.
Maybe we could even bait countertop into coming It's been so long since we've seen him, I've forgotten which guns to make fun of since he isn't there!
Kony, I'm seeing a bunch of 7.62x39 Wolf ads, I know you were looking for local sources but it seems like it's still available for delivery. I could probably be convinced to pile on for a couple hundred rounds...
I do NOT want to have anything to do with an automobile 11/23... it promises to be very, very busy. 11/25 would be ok with me...
Gunny want to sponsor the GOW? that would make it a GGOW. One each.
Maybe we could even bait countertop into coming
It's been so long since we've seen him, I've forgotten which guns to make fun of since he isn't there! Kony, I'm seeing a bunch of 7.62x39 Wolf ads, I know you were looking for local sources but it seems like it's still available for delivery. I could probably be convinced to pile on for a couple hundred rounds...
countertop
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Are you moving to Virginia or just heading out here for a trip?
You can also buy your license online, its very convenient.
JamisJockey
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countertop said:
Moving, in Jan of '08. The .Gov agency I work for is a little slow on its moves....
KONY
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Smurfslayer said:
Smurf,
According to various threads, the websites are inaccurate. People are calling places with these ads (like Cabelas) only to find out they "won't have any in stock 'til next month". Seems like Wolf has increased production of 7.62x39mm but its all going to foreign markets.
NEXT SHOOT
11/23 is better for me because the company usually closes early before holidays. Most of the traffic will be going out of town so cutting across for me will not be to bad. I will be working on 11/25, the company now follows the government's holiday schedule. Just think there will be nobody in the restruants on 11/23 of course there will be onbody on 11/25 either since they will ALL be gone.
My next target is a S&W model 34-1 that I saw at the show. I am going to e-mail the dealer this week and see if he sold it. It is a J-frame, 2 inch, .22cal, and adjustable sights. Not many of them were made according to my book, very rare without the adj. sites, but the dealer was asking top dallor at the show so I did not talk with him.
11/23 is better for me because the company usually closes early before holidays. Most of the traffic will be going out of town so cutting across for me will not be to bad. I will be working on 11/25, the company now follows the government's holiday schedule. Just think there will be nobody in the restruants on 11/23 of course there will be onbody on 11/25 either since they will ALL be gone.
My next target is a S&W model 34-1 that I saw at the show.
I am going to e-mail the dealer this week and see if he sold it. It is a J-frame, 2 inch, .22cal, and adjustable sights. Not many of them were made according to my book, very rare without the adj. sites, but the dealer was asking top dallor at the show so I did not talk with him.Smurfslayer
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THR golf meet...
Anyone who knows me would never expect those words from me.
That said...
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=2047483#post2047483
Your Tacticalness, doesn't your AR possess the requisite flash suppressor?
I know my FNC does
Anyone who knows me would never expect those words from me.
That said...
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=2047483#post2047483
Your Tacticalness, doesn't your AR possess the requisite flash suppressor?
I know my FNC does
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