Now Beto wants to take ALL THE SEMI-AUTO FIREARMS away (Not just AR15s and AK47s)

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Add easy 'shall issue' and purchase of handguns for several states now afflicted with draconian laws.
Lift the post office ban

I really don't see this happening with legislation though, unless the filibuster is broken. That is another general issue. SCOTUS could do this as each item is clearly under the aegis of 'shall not be infringed' and that states cannot infringe on the BORs.

SCOTUS has to start taking cases on a faster than glacial pace and have unambiguous decisions that give no wiggle room for states and lower courts. I don't have that much time left and great gun rights in 2030 - won't help me.
 
GEM said:
I really don't see this happening with legislation though, unless the filibuster is broken. That is another general issue. SCOTUS could do this as each item is clearly under the aegis of 'shall not be infringed' and that states cannot infringe on the BORs.

SCOTUS has to start taking cases on a faster than glacial pace and have unambiguous decisions that give no wiggle room for states and lower courts.
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IMO, once the SCOTUS takes the next big 2A case, I think it will be an avalanche.

GEM said:
I don't have that much time left and great gun rights in 2030 - won't help me.
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Patience ... It already started with Heller and I can envision carry, magazine, AWB, suppressor, etc. etc. clicking into place. I do believe you will see most of these in our lifetime and certainly for our children and grandchildren.
 
Not that Beto would admit it but I can't help but believe that he would love to have that statement back in the Bigmouth Corral.
 
I am not so sure that I rely on SCOTUS presenting anything other than a nonsensical solution. As for "taking cases on a faster than glacial pace," some of them would have to be awakened for that. At the very least; roused.
 
AlexanderA said:
You would think. But then why does he keep doubling down on this stupidity?
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Point taken. I guess he is spinning it? I saw him say it and it appeared to me that he got even more exuberant than is his other planet norm. He makes me tired.
 
The problem is and will forevermore be with the unhinged individuals who create those heinous situations. They provide ammo to the cause each and every event.
 
GEM said:
Getting Trump re-elected is not a Beto topic. Let's steer away from that.
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So,

Now that Ukraine call "transcript" is out and Democrats trying to inquire impeachment, looks like any hope of antis moving forward with gun control talk with Trump/Republicans just vaporized, perhaps until after 2020 election?

Where will that put Beto O'Rourke's gun ban/confiscation push?
 
Even this CBS News report outlined the ultimate end goal of anti gun/2A crowd - Gun ban/confiscation that Beto O'Rourke so eloquently stated by, "Hell yes, we are taking your AR15s and AK47s", even to include all semi-auto firearms. Now there is no doubt to all the voters as their final goal is crystal clear. And thanks to O'Rourke, we went from "compromise/commonsense/reasonable" gun control directly to gun ban/confiscation, which was the END GOAL of antis all along.

Analysis: Talk of Second Amendment repeal "unhelpful" for gun control movement



And let's take a trip down memory lane of District of Columbia v Heller where the Supreme Court "enforced" the Second Amendment AFTER OVER 30 YEARS of DC's unconstitutional law. So take heart, the Supreme Court can overturn unconstitutional laws passed in past decades. ;)

Supreme Court Rules in Favor of Gun Rights

 
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Semi-auto rifles like AR15s and AK47s that Beto O'Rourke wants to ban/confiscate are protected by the Second Amendment.

Why?

Because justice Gorsuch and Kavanaugh's presence changed the landscape of the Supreme Court.

"Assault Weapon" is not a factual term, it is a "political propaganda label".

At 15:30 minute mark of video, a great question is raised. Heller ruled a pistol/handgun was protected by the Second Amendment. So why did states pass anti gun rights/2A laws that banned pistol grips on rifle? How can these states after Heller ruling pass state laws that go against the Supreme Court ruling?

That's right, this along with many other unconstitutional laws will go to the Supreme Court so justices like Gorsuch and Kavanaugh can enforce the Second Amendment like how justice Scalia enforced the Second Amendment for Heller.

 
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Otto said:
Beto hasn't a chance to take the nomination BUT it wouldn't surprise me if Warren won the nomination and picked Beto as her running mate.
Her proposals on gun control are far, far worse than his.
And if she were to win the Texas Electoral College....it's game over.
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I believe that Beto would be a liability for the Democratic ticket in Texas, after his confiscation nonsense. Warren won't pick him, since the only rationale for picking him would be to help get Texas' 38 electoral votes, and that's clearly no longer in play. The VP prize (if Warren is the nominee) now goes to Cory Booker, who might bring out the black vote in Philadelphia and help carry Pennsylvania. (Booker is almost as bad as Beto on guns.)
 
AlexanderA said:
I believe that Beto would be a liability for the Democratic ticket in Texas, after his confiscation nonsense. Warren won't pick him, since the only rationale for picking him would be to help get Texas' 38 electoral votes, and that's clearly no longer in play. The VP prize (if Warren is the nominee) now goes to Cory Booker, who might bring out the black vote in Philadelphia and help carry Pennsylvania. (Booker is almost as bad as Beto on guns.)
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YIKES!
 
LaneP said:
Everyone in the gun grabbing crowd ultimately want European-style gun prohibition ... smarter one's don't announce it publicly because they know it will be damaging at the polls.
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And law makers who want to be re-elected because of the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights which includes the Second Amendment. ;)

Oh and USA is not a "European" country nor a subject of the crown. :D We settled that issue a long time ago. :thumbup:

To me, outrageous statements antis made and clearly documented in this thread won't be settled by anti gun rights/2A law makers as they hope rather by "enforcement" of the Supreme Court. The underlying importance I want the readers of this thread to focus is the fact that anti gun crowd wants to ban part of the Bill of Rights which includes 27 amendments to the US Constitution. If you turn down the "noise" surrounding the gun control/reform talk, that's essentially what it boils down to, a group of people attacking the Bill of Rights and the US Constitution. This attack is un-American and unconstitutional and should make everyone's blood boil who recognizes and honors the US Constitution.

As well demonstrated by anti-gun law makers in California and other states for decades, there is no such thing as "reasonable/commonsense" gun control/reform, instead ultimately a slippery slope that has become a free fall.

Beto O'Rourke has not walked back his statements of gun ban/confiscation. Well, I believe it's time for gun owners to do the same and say NO to any additional gun control and move to pressure the law makers to EXPAND gun rights.

Like these, yes, law makers can write "pro gun" bills too - https://www.countable.us/articles/7530-7-gun-rights-bills-congress
 
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LiveLife said:
Beto O'Rourke has not walked back his statements of gun ban/confiscation. Well, I believe it's time for gun owners to do the same and say NO to any additional gun control and move to EXPAND gun rights.
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Beto has killed all hope for any kind of gun control, "common sense" or not. That's why antigunners hate him and pro-gunners (should) love him. Send him contributions to keep him running and talking. It's a wise investment for your guns.
 
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