NRA instructor teams up with local retailer for alarmist anti FUD

[siglite]

Watching my TV this morning, a commercial comes on for a local pawn shop that sells firearms. This shop's been in the media here quite a bit. But that's another story. Search google news for "Trading Post" in Marmet, WV if you're curious. But I digress...

Anyway, I'm watching this commercial, and there's a gentleman holding a pistol. The screen is captioned "Paris Workman NRA Firearms Instructor." He proceeds to ask me "Did you know every two hours in the United States a kid is killed with a gun? That's why we carry a full line of champion safes." At this point, the commercial flips to a champion safe opening.

Where did this "NRA Firearms Instructor" get this statistic? Brady? How many of those "Kids" killed with a gun are gang members? How many are under the age of 14? How many have violent criminal priors? How many are suicides that just as easily could've done it by jumping off a building or eating a bottle of tylenol?

:banghead:

With friends like these....

Mr. Workman, if you're a member here at THR and happen to read this, rest assured that I will never visit your establishment, let alone spend a dime where someone would spout an alarmist, twisted statistic and exploit "for the chillunz" to try and sell a safe.

As soon as I find your contact information, I'll be telling you the same thing directly.

 

[ants]

According to the CDC mortality database, approximately 1400 persons age 18 and under are killed with a firearm. That's one every 6 hours.

So the claim of "one every two hours" is false, but the truth is equally sobering.

 

[velocette]

How many of those "One every six hours" is drug / crime / gang related?
Not to put too fine a point on it, perhaps firearm fatalitys of that nature should not be counted with accidental" fatalitys.

Roger

 

[cracked butt]

The only way a safe is going to stop 90% of those 'gun-related' deaths would be to stuff every gangbanger in America into a gunsafe, lock the door, and walk away.

 

[Blackbeard]

They're probably using the brady definition of "child" up to age 25. This includes gangsters and police in the definition of "children".

 

[torpid]

Hey, the man wants to sell some safes, what does he care?

 

[jnyork]

I dont suppose we are lucky enough that we can get Mr. Workman's email address or the email address of that shop. Better yet, their phone numbers?

 

[siglite]

It's available via google. Just search "Trading Post" "Marmet WV"

 

[jnyork]

Voila !! Mr Workman himself: http://www.usacops.com/wv/p25315m/index.html

 

[siglite]

Yeah, that's very likely him. It's not like that name's common enough that you'll have 10 of them in Marmet. Marmet's not a huge metropolis by any stretch of the imagination.

 

[Robert Hairless]

Please show some compassion for that kid who keeps getting killed. It must be awfully painful to get killed over and over.

 

[langenc]

I am assuming that 'champion' is a brand of safe.

It would be best if the ortiginal poster and viewer of the commercial to contact Champion and file an official complaint. That is just bad advertising and Id bet they wont like it. Sometimes there are payments to companies to advertise a product (co-op ads) and in that case they would cut the ad support OFF now.

 

[siglite]

Good idea. Maybe I'll contact Champion tomorrow. Talk to their PR office. Find out if that's a standard line with them.

 

[Buttermilk]

Contact the NRA and ask if the NRA allows their logo to be used in that way. They may want it stopped and can do it.

 

[zxcvbob]

Please show some compassion for that kid who keeps getting killed. It must be awfully painful to get killed over and over.

Is his name "Kenny"?

(I read it the same way )

 

[mekender]

as someone that just completed NRA instructor training, that would violate the agreement that NRA instructors enter into with the NRA... identifying yourself as an instructor is strictly limited to being allowed only when you are using such credentials to promote a class... the NRA does not allow you to use those credentials to give credibility to statements or testimony you may give...

i would bet that they would love to know about someone using their name without their permission

 

[Robert Hairless]

Is his name "Kenny"?

(I read it the same way)

I don't know his real name, only his nickname: "Dopey."

That kid has been getting killed over and over since the Brady Campaign began as Handgun Control Inc. I don't know if Sarah Brady conceived him.

Mekender:

Yup. The NRA says so on its publicly accessible web site at http://www.nrahq.org/education/training/downloads.asp. But it spoils the drama.

NRA Certified Instructors, Training Counselors and Coaches are now permitted to reproduce the three copyrighted trainer emblems (marks). The appropriate emblem may be used on personal business cards and other printed or electronic promotional materials when used to promote NRA-approved courses, clinics, schools, and workshops for which the trainer holds a current certificate.

The same restrictions apply as those for using the NRA name or trainer titles in your promotions. When using NRA trainer titles or trainer emblems, all listed or referenced courses must be NRA courses unless the required disclaimer is also used. If the courses listed are a mix of NRA and non-NRA courses, each and every non-NRA course listed or described must include the disclaimer, "This is not an NRA-approved course," in type at least as large as that used for the course title. The use of the NRA name, trainer title(s), or trainer emblem(s) must not be used in such a manner as to cause the public to reasonably believe the user is an NRA employee or that their location is an NRA place of business.

 

[siglite]

To be clear, the commercial does not use any NRA trademarks or logos that I saw. It merely displays his name and the words "NRA firearms instructor" in white text. Sounds kind of gray in terms of enforceability based on what Mr. Hairless quoted above.