NRA TV may be no more

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Mowgli Terry said:
Was this polarization good to keep the money coming in. The evil Democrats are coming to take you guns. Send money. The NRA has been driven so far to the right that the polarization will continue beyond the scandal. I suspect that the NRATV with Dana et.al. especially in the wake MSD school shooting had much to do with the exodus. There was an real exodus and real reduction of contributions. What happened.
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I'm not sure of your point except to gloat about Democrats winning. I can assure you the fight is continuing and I will donate more than any other year. BTW, yes, Democrats are coming to take our guns:

Biden Pledges To Defeat National Rifle Association:
https://bearingarms.com/tom-k/2019/...44OWC-nW85ne7d465pov-BmeUQowicKMv7g6no0sUrSQQ

Kamala Harris: I’ll Stand Up to the NRA
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/04/23/kamala-harris-ill-stand-up-to-nra/

Eric Swalwell Taunts NRA That They Won’t Debate Him. Dana Loesch Nails Him: ‘I’m Your Huckleberry’:
https://www.dailywire.com/news/46208/eric-swalwell-taunts-nra-they-wont-debate-him-dana-hank-berrien

Elizabeth Warren Urges Democrats to Champion Gun Control, Shut Down Debate:
https://www.nraila.org/articles/201...rats-to-champion-gun-control-shut-down-debate

CORY BOOKER WANTS TO UNLEASH THE IRS ON THE NRA:
https://dailycaller.com/2019/05/12/cory-booker-irs-nra/

Pete Buttigieg: Gun Control ‘Compatible with the Second Amendment’:

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...control-compatible-with-the-second-amendment/



Pete Buttigieg on Gun Reform, Universal Background Checks, and Banning AR-15s:

https://www.marieclaire.com/politics/a27004368/pete-buttigieg-gun-control-second-amendment/
 
Mowgli Terry said:
The evil Democrats are coming to take you guns.
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They are. They have control in Illinois and they’re doing whatever they can to interfere with our 2A rights. I’m not saying the NRA doesn’t have problems. It does, but them speaking out against the Democratic politicians is not one of them as it’s those politicians who are on an anti 2A crusade. They deserve to be called out.
 
Making the broad sweeping negative generalization about Democrats could have possibly payed a role in the exodus? Could the content alienated the Independent moderates? The NRATV commentators were, so far as I'm concerned, firing up the base. All that radical stuff came home to roost. Evidently, the NRA can do fine without those people. Right?

I still think a poll would be interesting. What do these people here feel about Waynegate and the content of NRATV? I know how'd I vote. What about you?
 
Mowgli Terry said:
Making the broad sweeping negative generalization about Democrats could have possibly payed a role in the exodus? Could the content alienated the Independent moderates? The NRATV commentators were, so far as I'm concerned, firing up the base. All that radical stuff came home to roost. Evidently, the NRA can do fine without those people. Right?

I still think a poll would be interesting. What do these people here feel about Waynegate and the content of NRATV? I know how'd I vote. What about you?
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erm no, anyone watching NRATV is likely already a 2A patriot. Again, you are just tossing out suppositions as fact without any attributions to back them up. That is precisely what is wrong with this 'debate'.
 
I don’t see a problem with the NRA backing candidates that support the 2A. In today’s world, that’s mostly republicans. My problem is with them talking about anything political that has nothing to do with the 2A. To quote Dana, they need to stay in their own lane. If it’s 2A related, by all means speak up. Otherwise, don’t get involved.
 
SteadyD said:
don’t see a problem with the NRA backing candidates that support the 2A.
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Depends on what you mean by support. There was some suggestion of manipulating ratings and the like. My feeling are that it all needs sunlight. Dana was a big offender on the partisan rants. Those rants had to do with partisan politics. You can muckjaw most anything around to have to do with the 2A in that agenda. I still ask if the NRATV had to do with the exodus. The "Socialist" dance is not partisan? Do this stuff and it's necessary to live with the consequences. Many members figured the connection with Fox News and Brietbart News.
 
Wayne and youth shooting aside. But did anyone actually watch NRA tv? I haven’t seen any one saying their going to miss it.
 
SharpDog said:
That will be much easier with the NRA than without it. Or before all the naysayers chime in, much easier with NRA donations than if they dried up.
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I agree that the NRA can do this. As an NRA member I would like to read about what youth programs the NRA is active with in major metropolitan cities like mine. With the amount of fundraising letters i get from the NRA, that type of info could easily be communicated to me.
 
Zendude (and any others interested), here are a few clarifications/facts:
The National Rifle Association is a 501c4 non-profit - this allows them to be involved in the political arena. Under the NRA are also such programs as; Eddie Eagle Gun Safety, Women on Target, Refuse to be a Victim and others. You also have the ILA (Institute for Legislative Action) - the part that goes to the politicians and works for the stopping of bad laws and working to get the good one's passed.
The NRA Foundation is a 501c3 non-profit CHARITY organization. They can NOT be involved in politics. Funds raised by the NRA Foundation (primarily through volunteers putting on more than 1100 Friends of NRA events around the country) go to support the above named programs as well as NRA Ranges and many others. 50% of the funds raised by Friends of NRA groups goes to LOCAL organizations involved in 2A programs such as 4-H Youth Shooting Sports, Boy Scouts, SCTP, JROTC, law enforcement, public ranges and many other things. This 50% is decided upon by the local groups that put on the events, not someone up in Virginia that hasn't the foggiest idea how far one place is from another.

NRATV was dropped due to the ongoing lawsuit between NRA and Ackerly-McQueen. (Seriously, why would you continue to pay someone that you're accusing of miss-spending your funds?)

Will the shows come back? Possibly.

In the meantime, the NRA is fighting lawsuits from New York (aka Bloomberg's anti-2A stance). Lawyers cost money, so, NRA is asking for more. AT THE SAME TIME, NRA is attempting to continue to fight the other anti-2A groups out there.

The one thing to remember about the 'strength' of the NRA is that it is NOT what is up at the main office - rather, it's you and me out here in the streets heeding the call to action and keeping us updated with the latest information on the anti-2A in our area and in our country. This too takes money. Hence, additional requests for membership and donations and the like.

Support who you like. I personally feel that the MSM is taking advantage of all of the lawsuits to cause exactly what I've been reading in the last 3 pages on this forum and others. I WILL continue to support the NRA as it's still the BEST and STRONGEST group out there protecting MY civil rights.

And to SharpDog, thanks for your posts.
 
Mowgli Terry said:
Making the broad sweeping negative generalization about Democrats could have possibly payed a role in the exodus? Could the content alienated the Independent moderates? The NRATV commentators were, so far as I'm concerned, firing up the base. All that radical stuff came home to roost. Evidently, the NRA can do fine without those people. Right?

I still think a poll would be interesting. What do these people here feel about Waynegate and the content of NRATV? I know how'd I vote. What about you?
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I have a limited amount of dollars I can donate to causes I care about. I do not have enough of those dollars to afford to fund scare-mongering propaganda to shake members down, nor can I afford Wayne's clothing budget -- and that's if the documentation about that spending was honest, which I have my doubts. All of this while the organization tacitly supports the current administration, whose words and actions are anti-gun IMO.
 
Priorities? :NRA Programs: Exactly, how much money goes into these programs. Is it more or less than the clothing and intern allowance.The talk here is about how the youth program and similar are a wonderment. Exactly how much is spent on these programs. Was the money amount more or less than the cost of the former NRATV?
 
Bbear said:
This 50% is decided upon by the local groups that put on the events, not someone up in Virginia that hasn't the foggiest idea how far one place is from anothe
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It was my understanding the in order for a NRA affiliated club to get NRA funds it was necessary to submit a detailed financial statement. That's somewhat of a double standard. The national organization expects a higher level of transparency than "somebody up in Virginia" has. The fact remains there has been a major misuse of funds plus a cover up. That situations dominates the landscape. This business about the programs is an attempt to cover up the clothing allowance etc. So how about stop trying to hijack the thread. Deal with the issue at hand.

This power of the membership appears to have been challenged in these three pages. In case you missed the point there does not appear to be much power. The only way to deal with this looting is to stop the loot.
 
Mowgli Terry, you are confusing two different grants. The NRA Foundation grants come through the local/state Fund committee that is made up of the members of the Friends of NRA committees that raised the funds.
The NRA Range grants come from the 50% that come from the other half of what is raised by Friends of NRA and is at the discretion of those up in Virginia.
 
I stand about what I said. First up this program stuff continues to be a smoke screen for Waynegate. Also, exactly how much money from all the sources go into these programs. That is, money from the Association.
 
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Mowgli Terry said:
I still wonder what exactly caused the money to stop flowing and the membership to drop. .
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I can tell you exactly why my contributions have been going elsewhere lately.

The way they rolled over without a peep on the bump stock ban sets a horrible precedent!

At least when they threw full auto under the bus with the poorly named "Firearm Owner's Protection Act" we did get some improvements to maybe offset the loss.
 
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