Pate
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It took me 10 months to get mine in NY.
NY Pistol Permit Application - How Long?
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toivo
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New York permits are tough to get, but once you have it, it's good for life.
Well some New York counties expire the pistol permits after a period of time. I know where I have my permit you have to renew it every 5 years or it expires. If your pistol permit expires before you renew it - you have to surrender your pistols or get an FFL to hold them until you reapply again. Took me 5 months to receive my permit.
gglass
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Surrender your pistols!!! Hmmm... What would be worse than Draconian?
RL77
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Thanks joeshmoe... I'll give the pistol permit office a call. I did the letter to the judge
and it was for a cc cause i own a business and make deposits. I'm also at the job late nights too so that was my reason for cc. I hope they can help me. Would they have my paperwork or are they gonna tell me to call the sheriffs office?
and it was for a cc cause i own a business and make deposits. I'm also at the job late nights too so that was my reason for cc. I hope they can help me. Would they have my paperwork or are they gonna tell me to call the sheriffs office?
Aran
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Just jump your southern border to PA. It's nice down here.
toivo
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Long Island or Westchester County? I forgot, they're a bit tougher. Are they issuing unrestricted these days?
Speedo66
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The original poster is trying to get local information about his permit application.
Are the people who mention how simple their state application process is
actually trying to be helpful, or just gloating?
More NY bashing?
NYS has pistol permits, why not save your wrath for states that don't.
Are the people who mention how simple their state application process is
actually trying to be helpful, or just gloating?
More NY bashing?
NYS has pistol permits, why not save your wrath for states that don't.
Aran
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I grew up in New York. I will gladly take any opportunity to insult the state I can.
As for "having pistol permits" please see the US Constitution, Amendment 2.
As for "having pistol permits" please see the US Constitution, Amendment 2.
gglass
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My ties to the state of NY are through my wife and her family (When my wife moved to Indiana, she was shocked that it was so easy to purchase and carry a handgun). I would only describe my posts as constructive gloating. The people of NY, as with any other state that imposes Draconian laws on their subjects, are getting the government they deserve. We the people are voting for these politicians who bring us these restrictive laws.
I have had a few debates with my brother-in-law who lives in NY about firearms and politics, and he never quite gets the connection. He wants to own a handgun and complains about the restrictive process, yet he will NEVER vote for someone who isn't a Democrat... Why Democrat? Because his family has always voted that way.I see it as he is getting what he deserves.
I know that most people on these forums are voting in their local, state and federal elections in ways that reflect their pro 2a beliefs. But, to change the system we have to start influencing our neighbors vote and educating our friends.
Is my post constructive to the OP's question? Not really, but it may help down the road if more people will start voting with the 2A issues at the top of their requirements for a candidate.
I have had a few debates with my brother-in-law who lives in NY about firearms and politics, and he never quite gets the connection. He wants to own a handgun and complains about the restrictive process, yet he will NEVER vote for someone who isn't a Democrat... Why Democrat? Because his family has always voted that way.I see it as he is getting what he deserves.
I know that most people on these forums are voting in their local, state and federal elections in ways that reflect their pro 2a beliefs. But, to change the system we have to start influencing our neighbors vote and educating our friends.
Is my post constructive to the OP's question? Not really, but it may help down the road if more people will start voting with the 2A issues at the top of their requirements for a candidate.
Aran
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Yeah, my grandmother (who lived in NY at the time, but just moved down here to Pittsburgh a few months ago) was talking about how horrible the things she'd heard about Obama were before the election, as far as his policies go, and how she actually liked what McCain and his campaign had been saying. She had always voted Democrat because her family always had, etc.
I encouraged her to vote how she actually believed, not just how the family voted.
A few months after the election we're talking politics... and she admits that when she got into the voting booth, she just couldn't pull the lever for anyone with an R after their name because of how she was raised.
I encouraged her to vote how she actually believed, not just how the family voted.
A few months after the election we're talking politics... and she admits that when she got into the voting booth, she just couldn't pull the lever for anyone with an R after their name because of how she was raised.
Here's another thing about New York City Carry permits, they are issued for a specific purpose, like a cash business, where you must prove that you carry a certain amount of cash and make deposits, etc. When I got mine in the early 70's it was $5000.00 in cash at any one time. You then had to get letters from the bank, accountant, tax forms, and on and on. The idea is to make it so hard that you either cannot fulfill cannot prove or just get tired and say screw it.
I had mine over 20 years, now here is the best part. When you sell the business, "or retire, or whatever", you have to turn in your carry permit, since the only reason they gave it to you was to protect yourself when carrying all the cash, which by now is more like 50 grand at a time, not 5 like it was, "which with credit cards and checks" is almost impossible to do. So even after you get it, you have to give it back, the gun gets stamped on the license with the serial number caliber etc. So unless you are a retired cop, or Agent, you don't get to keep your carry forever. It's a privilege in NYC, not a right.
This was as of 1994 when I turned in my guns to the 112 PCT, and had them sent down to a Captain friend of mine in Jupiter, Then I just drove from Ft Lauderdale and picked them up, no problem. You better know all of the laws that apply in the City of NY, if you carry there with a permit other than a NYC carry permit, you are in trouble if caught, this is confusing to newbies so I made it as clear as I can, also there may have been changes made since I moved, I was allowed 2 guns after a few years instead of 1. But the purchase order was how it was done then, you had to first get a purchase order take that to the gun store, buy the pistol and bring everything back ti 1PP, then you were good to go.
I had mine over 20 years, now here is the best part. When you sell the business, "or retire, or whatever", you have to turn in your carry permit, since the only reason they gave it to you was to protect yourself when carrying all the cash, which by now is more like 50 grand at a time, not 5 like it was, "which with credit cards and checks" is almost impossible to do. So even after you get it, you have to give it back, the gun gets stamped on the license with the serial number caliber etc. So unless you are a retired cop, or Agent, you don't get to keep your carry forever. It's a privilege in NYC, not a right.
This was as of 1994 when I turned in my guns to the 112 PCT, and had them sent down to a Captain friend of mine in Jupiter, Then I just drove from Ft Lauderdale and picked them up, no problem. You better know all of the laws that apply in the City of NY, if you carry there with a permit other than a NYC carry permit, you are in trouble if caught, this is confusing to newbies so I made it as clear as I can, also there may have been changes made since I moved, I was allowed 2 guns after a few years instead of 1. But the purchase order was how it was done then, you had to first get a purchase order take that to the gun store, buy the pistol and bring everything back ti 1PP, then you were good to go.
Speedo66
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Aran says "I grew up in NY. I will gladly take any opportunity to insult the state I can".
gglass says "I would only describe my post as constructive gloating".
Please explain how these comments are in any way helpful to the poster. Do you think he doesn't know where he lives and what the situation is?
I don't see these comments as being in any way High Road.
gglass says "I would only describe my post as constructive gloating".
Please explain how these comments are in any way helpful to the poster. Do you think he doesn't know where he lives and what the situation is?
I don't see these comments as being in any way High Road.
THE DARK KNIGHT
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I stopped asking a good number of questions here because all you get is "YEAH WELL NJ SUCKS!!! FORGET YOUR FAMILY JOB LIFE AND MEMORIES!!! PACK UP YOUR WHOLE LIFE AND MOVE TO NEVADA CAUSE THE SHOOTING RANGE IS NICER!!!"
RL77
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Update on permit..
Ok. I had called the OC Pistol Permit Division and asked if they could check up on the status of my permit..they didn't have it, and transferred me to the OC Sheriffs Dept, where i found out its been on a desk in the wrong pile. It was in the delinquent pile or whatever he said because of my suspended license, that i had ( that's another story). The license was fixed in august and since Oct 26 till today, it was in that pile not moving at all, cause they thought my license was still suspended and that i never fixed it. Luckily, he moved it up to the attention of the under sheriff and since i have no arrests or anything, its finally moving along. He said it should be a few weeks, but to call back and check. Ill give it a month and then call to see whats up if i don't get it by then. At least it isn't lost...
Ok. I had called the OC Pistol Permit Division and asked if they could check up on the status of my permit..they didn't have it, and transferred me to the OC Sheriffs Dept, where i found out its been on a desk in the wrong pile. It was in the delinquent pile or whatever he said because of my suspended license, that i had ( that's another story). The license was fixed in august and since Oct 26 till today, it was in that pile not moving at all, cause they thought my license was still suspended and that i never fixed it. Luckily, he moved it up to the attention of the under sheriff and since i have no arrests or anything, its finally moving along. He said it should be a few weeks, but to call back and check. Ill give it a month and then call to see whats up if i don't get it by then. At least it isn't lost...
YANKEE2500
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I had my CC permit in NY for 25yrs, got it in 1980, and it was tough to get back then. Took me about 5 months to get it, I lived in Erie County and they liked to put there own restrictions on the permit , to make them for hunting and target shooting only. Mine was like that for a year and when there was change in the Admin. and I got my permit changed to full CC.
I moved to NC about 6yrs ago differant world down here for CC, more gun friendly.
John
I moved to NC about 6yrs ago differant world down here for CC, more gun friendly.
John
Guys I posted that for a reason, I love NY for many things, guns aren't one, but that's not the reason. Even permit holders in other Counties and Boroughs surrounding NYC are sometimes confused about the law in the city itself. That's the reason, I wouldn't want anyone to think they could carry someware they arent allowed to. But Nj is ok although where they put the airport sucks,lol
Trying to cut through all the noise...
That's good news RL77. It would certainly be a pain to start over.
As far as I know, most judges routinely issue a restricted permit. If you have clearly stated your need for an unrestricted permit, he will probably want to see you. If that is the case, I recommend that you anticipate his questions, and be ready to give well thought out but succinct answers. If you walk in unprepared, you are going to get rattled. Don't get rattled by the judges questions, or demeanor. They don't want to issue a carry permit to someone who is easily upset. Some questions to anticipate would be: Why do you want to carry? Where do you plan to carry? How often do you plan to carry? Don't try to B.S. the judge. They know a thing or two about B.S.
If you are issued a restricted permit, I would suggest that you wait a year, and then write a letter to the judge requesting that he remove your restrictions. Hope this helps.
That's good news RL77. It would certainly be a pain to start over.
As far as I know, most judges routinely issue a restricted permit. If you have clearly stated your need for an unrestricted permit, he will probably want to see you. If that is the case, I recommend that you anticipate his questions, and be ready to give well thought out but succinct answers. If you walk in unprepared, you are going to get rattled. Don't get rattled by the judges questions, or demeanor. They don't want to issue a carry permit to someone who is easily upset. Some questions to anticipate would be: Why do you want to carry? Where do you plan to carry? How often do you plan to carry? Don't try to B.S. the judge. They know a thing or two about B.S.
If you are issued a restricted permit, I would suggest that you wait a year, and then write a letter to the judge requesting that he remove your restrictions. Hope this helps.
Lake Front
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I've been busy with the holidays and the birth of a new child and have not had time to post an update. But I received my permit (unrestricted) at the end of December (finalized the paper work last week). All in all, a little over 4 months for Madison County, NY. No interview either (not sure if that is normal or not?).
Now I just need to decided on the pistol, but I will do some searching on this site (currently leaning towards the HK45 Compact).
Thanks to all who posted (whether you were gloating or not
).
Now I just need to decided on the pistol, but I will do some searching on this site (currently leaning towards the HK45 Compact).
Thanks to all who posted (whether you were gloating or not
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I'm not gloating. I'm trying to remind everyone of what the end state of our RKBA efforts should look like.
Speedo66
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That's nice of them, 6 months max is the law in NY. Extension for extenuating circumstances, but max 6 months otherwise.
Sig 226 .40
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Absolutely correct Speedo66. I am also an officer in upstate NY. Broome county has recently resumed letting citizens carry again. Thanks to Judge Joseph Cawley. He does require any applicant for full carry to take one of the several weekend carry classes offered and present the certificate upon completion. He simply wants applicants to understand what they are responsible for as a ccw permit holder. He does issue(without the certificate) full carry to any officer, active and retired(as long as they retired honorably), and to local national guard troops. He understands that most of us have already served overseas and have extensive firearms training. The part that surprised him is that we Guardsman also receive Use of Force and Article 35 training every year. Sometimes several times a year. My particular unit happens to contain many competitive shooters and several double distinguished shooters in it. Just because we are not on duty 24/7 as soldiers doesn't mean that my OATH is part-time as well.
As for the Pennsylvania permit..if you have a concealed carry permit in NY..you can get the same in a fraction of the time down there.
As for the Pennsylvania permit..if you have a concealed carry permit in NY..you can get the same in a fraction of the time down there.
Florida...the gunshine state. A "must issue" state. took me 33 days. "stand your ground" "the castle doctrine" "the glove box policy"... our politicians are clearly thinking clearly.
Once in a while it's too bad that a sicko falls through the cracks and gets a ccw when they should not have but a couple of well publicized cases of error has made tallahasse much more aware and therefore much more critical in scrutinizing applicants.
Once in a while it's too bad that a sicko falls through the cracks and gets a ccw when they should not have but a couple of well publicized cases of error has made tallahasse much more aware and therefore much more critical in scrutinizing applicants.
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