NY Times Accuses Credit Card Companies of Financing Mass Shootings

[MifflinKid]

"And yet they dropped nra and firearms company discounts, closed nra backed credit card accounts business financing..."

Visa and MasterCard process credit charges for issuing institutions. Financial firms issue the cards and take the credit risks. Visa and MasterCard only get paid for their processing.

 

[Nanook]

If I had a parrot with a large cage, the NY Times might be of some use. Until then, they're not.

 

[Vern Humphrey]

Does the New York Times advertise movies and plays that depict violence? Then the New York Times sponsors violence!

 

[herrwalther]

And to think. I see ads all the time from the NYT offering "crystal clear" "non partisan news" for only $1 a month. That paper wouldn't even be suitable to line the bottom of my non existent gerbil cage.

 

[lemaymiami]

Too many of our news outfits have morphed into simple propagandists... Right at the head of that list is the paper that printed this malicious piece of work.... Dr. Goebbels (the head of propaganda for the nasties in WWII) would approve... This era will be looked on years from now as the age of the new Yellow Journalism where news outlets are being directed towards political aims by one side or the other (we have our own not so savory types - but far fewer...). If I were a journalist - I'd be hard pressed to claim the profession it's gotten that bad....

I expect this kind of stuff from the other side on a daily and yearly basis.... The only slander, lie, distortion they haven't tried (and here I'm not just talking about firearms issues...) is the one they haven't thought of. What we need to do is point out at every turn the lies, distortions, and other dirty tricks they get up to in each and every case. Now if we could only get our schools to teach young'uns to be very critical of news items and to judge for themselves whether what they're reading, seeing or hearing on the news is legitimate and worth consideration....

 

[GAF]

It is the typical blame game. Blame everything else , but the the person pulling the trigger.

 

[John_R]

Slightly similar example of "targeting businesses you don't agree with," locally there are a bunch of strip clubs. All are legal businesses, unless they're doing something illegal like prostitution or drug dealing inside, but the business itself doesn't officially do that. The City decided they don't like strip clubs, so they started sending the local Chief Fire Marshal out to do surprise inspections. Naturally, he found violations (everyone violates some aspect of the fire code at one time or another, it's impossible not to) and slapped a red tag on the door, shutting them down until the violation is corrected.

The owner (I guess he owns multiple clubs) sued and won an injunction, part of which requires the City to send someone other than the Chief Fire Marshal on surprise inspections to the clubs because he "has a reputation for being a strict, by-the-book inspector, and the lawsuit contended he and the city use raids to target businesses, like strip clubs, that the city doesn't like."

The city did the same thing with internet gambling places. We've had hundreds of them here, mostly run by Middle and Far-Eastern immigrants (money laundering?). None of them have a clue what's legal and what's not. I know because I used to have to deal with them. I asked one of them, "Have you consulted with your attorney to make sure the business you're planning to run conforms to Florida Statutes on gambling?" He looked at me like a deer caught in the headlights. He had no idea gambling was illegal. They all claim the gambling machines are legal, but they're either lying or stupid. The city has cracked down on them one by one.

https://www.news4jax.com/news/local...s-bans-fire-marshal-from-surprise-inspections

 

[mrmike7189]

I just ordered GUN parts from gunpartscorp.com and a RIFLE sling and I used my credit card! Oh NO
I'm going to get flagged as a terrorist

 

[Madcap_Magician]

Anyone who reads news knows that Sorkin is a flaming idiot.

Of course credit card companies enable mass shooters to purchase firearms, ammunition, and equipment. They enable literally everyone to buy literally everything that requires payment. That's their purpose. There is no way to look at someone's purchase record and determine intent from it.

I love how at the end of the article, they bury the fact that credit card companies currently have no way to provide this information anyway - they don't get SKU-level receipt information, and gun stores and sporting goods stores are the same retailer category.

 

[340PD]

This all goes back to obama and "operation chokepoint"
With the help of our old friend gun loving Michael Bloomberg who has been pushing for the continuance of this method of showing gun sales by destroying the ability of manufacturers of guns and accessories to obtain credit.

 

[CapnMac]

This era will be looked on years from now as the age of the new Yellow Journalism where news outlets are being directed towards political aims

Harsh. True to a point, as well.

However, given the demographics, also untrue. NYT serves NYC which is in one of the mega-city urban concentrations in the US (50% of the US population lives in only 30 counties of 3000). Given that print is moribund and near death as is, it would be foolish to not produce product that the buyers want and expect.

Where the "error" occurs in any belief that what is held so dear by the over urbanized is true for the other 50% of us.

So, we are quite free to toss brickbats at nattering nabobs with no clue as to how half the nation lives and breathes.

 

[CapnMac]

Slightly similar example of "targeting businesses you don't agree with,

It's become pretty common to use Zoning to restrict SOB (sexually oriented businesses, the Zoning term-of-art) extremely narrowly. Often to only existing properties. Which causes rather a lot of competition among those SOBs (no pun intended). So, they often "spy" on each other and report Code violations rigorously. Which does little to endear them to City staff.

Perversely (and to steer this back to THR) this can make these places some of the safest ones to visit, for the amount of City personnel afoot (from all of the complaints). Which balances out how these are nearly universally prohibited carry locations.