NY to restrict Assault Weapons, Limit magazine size to 7 bullets

[jim28]

I ache for the law-abiding citizens of New York whose 2nd Amendment rights are being trampled on, but this makes me nervous for a much bigger reason.

Until now, I'd never even seen a serious proposal for a ban on magazines that hold less than 10 rounds. But not only does this cover that, it does so very prominently. This could change the debate, and subsequently, the laws passed: Instead of the gun grabbers suggesting a ban on mags that hold 11 or more rounds, now the number is 8 or more.

The only people this is truly good news for: the manufacturers of standard 1911 magazines.

 

[toivo]

Oh, this is getting really weird. So no new mags over seven can be bought or sold, but if you have ten-round mags, you can keep them but can only put seven rounds in them.

We used to be able to have pre-bans, but those are history. We have a year to get rid of them: sell out-of-state or turn in.

 

[Trent]

Holy cow... he's pulling all-nighters in NY.

It just passed the damn senate 43-18 in a late night session.

Goes before the house tomorrow.

He's issuing a notice to BYPASS the required 3 days of debate. It goes straight to a vote on the damn house floor in the morning!

This crap could be law by lunch tomorrow!

The only people this is truly good news for: the manufacturers of standard 1911 magazines.

1911's wouldn't be legal.

They can accept 15 round magazines.

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/27...commander-45-acp-15-round-steel-nickel-plated

 

[cor_man257]

Its my understanding that its not just semi autos. But I truely don't know. Ive had trouble findiong the bill to review. Now that there seems to be a link i'll have a look see.

 

[allaroundhunter]

Really sucks to live in the common-sense-free zone of New York right about now.... Let's hope this disease doesn't spread anywhere else...

 

[flyskater]

That's why in Texas we kick most of the Democrats from taking office.

 

[Trent]

New York is going to be occupied territory, starting tomorrow.

Man this sucks.

What they're doing is outright horrible. The crap they just passed is actually worse than the junk that Illinois just tried to pull. It's worse than the worst case scenario anyone envisioned just a couple of days ago.

They went for broke and they're getting it.

It's surreal.

 

[digsigs226]

I was born and raised in Syracuse, but have since relocated to a much more gun friendly state. Though my entire family still lives there, I have no intention of ever returning to that Marxist enclave.

It is such a shame because it really is such a beautiful state (Upstate that is)

My advance to law abiding gun owners that are still there... get out, you don't deserve to be demonized anymore.

 

[jim28]

Originally posted by Trent:
1911's wouldn't be legal.

They can accept 15 round magazines.

Wait, they're banning guns that can ACCEPT mags with a capacity that exceeds seven?

This is insane. And unless the courts throw it out and quickly, expect similar laws passed across the country, one by one, as the Democratic super-majority in state legislatures similar to those in CA and NY spread.

I can't believe my country is doing this.

 

[goon]

Have there been instances in NY were 10 round magazines led to the loss of lives?
It just seems so stupid to change that when it's already such a low capacity magazine. Changing it truly could make no difference whatsoever. I am very sorry for you guys, but this is an example of what we are up against - the most stupid proposed laws imaginable just to make people feel like something is being done.

Honestly, I think that NY is trying to force the pro-gun people out of that state. If that's what they want, maybe ya'll should let them have it.
Go to PA, stop at the excellent gun stores in Clearfield county, and swing by my parents' place during the Hundred Mile Yard Sale this summer. My dad will be happy to discuss politics with you and my mom will marvel at your accents after you've left.

 

[Alaska444]

Holy cow... he's pulling all-nighters in NY.

It just passed the damn senate 43-18 in a late night session.

Goes before the house tomorrow.

He's issuing a notice to BYPASS the required 3 days of debate. It goes straight to a vote on the damn house floor in the morning!

This crap could be law by lunch tomorrow!



1911's wouldn't be legal.

They can accept 15 round magazines.

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/27...commander-45-acp-15-round-steel-nickel-plated

Just round one of many more to come. Very sad day for America, if you have a flag, do fly it upside down, truly sad day for freedom. One more step to outright tyranny.

 

[Solo]

Don't worry. It'll be alright as long as you have your high capacity magazines for journalistic purposes.

 

[tarosean]

Yikes....

section 50 of the bill enhances control over sales of ammunition by
adding a new penal law � 400.03 requiring (1) that sellers of


ammunition register with the superintendent of the state police (2)
that prior to a sale of ammunition, a seller must run the buyer
through a state-created review of disqualifiers to ensure that the
buyer is not prohibited by law from possessing ammunition, and (3)
that ammunition sales are electronically accessible to the state. In
addition, to prevent from purchasing ammunition, the bill requires
that any ammunition sold commercially must be conducted by a seller
that can perform a background check.

The new law also provides a mechanism to identify individual who
purchase unusually high volumes of ammunition, either in person or
over the Internet. Sellers must run the buyer's name through a State
database modeled after the federal "NICS" database to ensure the
buyer is not prohibited by law from possessing ammunition. Ammunition
sellers are also required to electronically file with the State
records of each ammunition sale, including amount sold.

This whole thing is insane... they didnt bother defining the "one-feature" that they are banning for rifles and pistols. I would think they could get this quickly overturned.

 

[FIVETWOSEVEN]

I'm hoping that if it does pass (far more than likely) that it gets ruled as unconstitutional by the supreme court and mag cap bans are completely done away with.

One can dream...

 

[Warp]

New York is going to be occupied territory, starting tomorrow.

It has been for awhile.

 

[nyresq]

The ban doesnt effect handguns, only their magazines... But rifles are a different story, the ban is directed at them AND the magazines... There is no mentionmof banning any handguns or any further restrictions then whats already in place in NY state... But no more high cap mags, even preban, so guns like fullsize glock 9mm's become useless with 7 rounds. May as well carry a compact or a single stack.

Its a sad day. And if anyone is foolish enough to think this isn't the start of a chain reaction, think again, CT has been talking about a new ban, CA is sure to follow and with a few states under their belt, the gun grabber will topple us all one by one...

 

[HorseSoldier]

+1. This isn't a zero to 60 in 0.5 seconds kind of development, it's further harassment of law abiding citizens in a state where the 1994 AWB never went away, and gun rights have remained out of step with most of the other states in the nation for the last couple decades.

 

[tarosean]

The ban doesnt effect handguns, only their magazines...

The "two-feature" test bans any gun that is semi-automatic, has
a detachable magazine (in the case of pistols and rifles), and
possesses two features that are commonly associated with military
weapons. The "one-feature" test would ban semi-automatic guns with
detachable magazines that possess one feature commonly associated
with military weapons. This section also adds to the list of
"features" that characterize a banned weapon.

Seems to me they are leaving it pretty open to interpretation..

 

[nyresq]

As I said in regards to handguns, itnplaces no further restrictions then what is already in place. Any of the evil features are already baned under NFA regulations. Stocks and foregrips are banned to begin with by the feds, and barrel shrouds (like a tec 9) were already covered under the existing ban here in NY. Read the whole section, not just one line. Then you will see how it applies to semi auto handguns.

 

[Trent]

Yeah that ammunition thing is downright frightening. I'd use stronger wording but this is THR....

Residents are going to have a DAMN hard time buying ammunition of ANY sort after this goes through. Background checks for every ammo purchase?

And every damn round they buy is going to end up in Government database.

I couldn't dream up something this bad in my worst nightmare.

New York... I'm sorry but oh man. This is horrible.

 

[Trent]

The pistol thing isn't as bad as I thought it was.

However, it can be construed that New York lost:

Glocks (due to the Glock 18),
Beretta 92's (thanks to the Beretta 93R),
Lugers (thanks to the Luger P08),
1911's (Hyman Lebman converted many to full auto during Prohibtion),
Makarovs (due to Stechkin APS)
Semi-Auto Mac 10's
CZ75's (a full auto version is made of this gun)

... and probably others I'm forgetting.

This is due to the "single factor" change and this line:

(VIII) A SEMIAUTOMATIC VERSION OF AN AUTOMATIC RIFLE, SHOTGUN OR
FIREARM;

 

[Kiln]

New Yorkers vote these bastards in so if you live there, move away in order to stop giving your hard earned dollars (in taxes) to state officials who want to oppress you.

It is very simple. Guys like Cuomo live off of people who either are too stupid to recognize what is going on or don't want to stand up for what they believe in. Second amendment supporters in New York just hand in their weapons to guys that our founding fathers would already be taking action against.

The people of New York trust the police to get there and help them because that's what they've been taught by the local government. What they don't know is that police get there 15 minutes after they've been murdered and simply catalogue everything so that they can try and get the guy who did it LATER.

The worst part is that the people BELIEVE that they are safer because of the laws.

 

[anchorman]

this is too bad. I've always wanted to move there, but I'm not sure that I can live around that level of stupid. hopefully someone will bring a challenge, to the supreme court in a hasty manner.

I wonder what happens if the people of new york go out of state to buy ammo?

 

[Quick Shot xMLx]

Having been born and raised in NYC I have to say you have to have a slave mentality to live in that city, hell most of that region. I know you have family there, forget them. You should have moved the second you reached an age where you could have. Welcome to the real United States, please leave the voting for commiecrats back in commieland.

 

[thorazine]

Oh well, seven rounds would be equal to seven dead robbers. No more double tap .

In the perfect land of make believe where a single handgun bullet stops the assault on impact and sends someone flying twenty feet backwards okay.

If you can line up seven devastating shots to the CNS under probably the most extreme high stress circumstances I could ever imagine all in probably little to no time to spare without missing a single shot -- you're a pistol god.


Personally I would rather have a larger magazine because I know I will miss my target many times.