Obama Campaign Threatens To Sue NRA

[Justin]

have you guys seen this:
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2...ets_obama.html

The Factcheck.org article contains demonstrably incorrect information. Reason Magazine's Jacob Sullum has a concise but well done breakdown of where the factcheck.org article is wrong.

Or for a more thorough debunking of the fallacies in the factcheck.org writeup, take a look at Dave Kopel's article.

The people who wrote the factcheck.org entry evidently know just about nothing when it comes to firearms, or they are unaware of Google.

 

[MakAttak]

I DID read the entire thread...apparently I missed the answer to why this POLITICAL thread is still open. Please enlighten me.

Ah, skimming rather than scanning.

Please scan post 65.

 

[.cheese.]

A little blogosphere-style article here:

http://www.armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=15091.0

I've been sending that to friends and family so far and encouraging them to spread it further.

 

[Justin]

I DID read the entire thread...apparently I missed the answer to why this POLITICAL thread is still open. Please enlighten me.

It's open because I find Obama's schoolyard bully tactics against those who are exercising their first amendment rights utterly reprehensible.

Consider this the final straw in his behavior that led me to leaving the thread open for discussion.

 

[rainbowbob]

Ah, skimming rather than scanning.

Actually, I didn't "skim" post #65 by the Moderator - in fact I read it two or three times.

I believe you must be referring to the following comment as the "answer' to why this political thread is allowed to remain open.

Call me a hypocrite if you like, but the shockingly low-road approach Obama's campaign has stooped to in this matter has pretty much assured that I won't be locking this thread.

I'm not calling the moderator a hypocrite - but I do believe that the forum rules are NOT being equitably enforced.

As I said...I would welcome the renewal of political threads at THR - as long as the forum rules are uniformly applied.

 

[Justin]

Bob-

That would be an entirely different discussion. Feel free to start one in the Tech Support forum if you like.

 

[buzz_knox]

It's open because I find Obama's schoolyard bully tactics against those who are exercising their first amendment rights utterly reprehensible.

Just wait until he has the full power of the IRS at his disposal. If he gets his "Citizen Security Force," it'll only be worse. We'll look back fondly on the days when Clinton's opponents and victims only had to deal with audits.

This is truly Chicago politics on a national scale.

 

[rainbowbob]

It's open because I find Obama's schoolyard bully tactics against those who are exercising their first amendment rights utterly reprehensible.

It has been my understanding (until today) that the moderators enforced the rules - not make them up as they go along based on their own personal philosphy or political leanings.

 

[shdwfx]

It has been my understanding (until today) that the moderators enforced the rules - not make them up as they go along based on their own personal philosphy or political leanings.

The BATFE raids CavArms, and it's a huge and legitimate story.

The Obama campaign threatens legal action against the NRA for exposing the truth, and it's a huge and (should be!) legitimate story here.

I think this is entirely in the spirit of the High Road and its mission, even if it does break the "letter of the law."

Like I said before, such a thread isn't just griping and preaching to the choir. There are gun owners on this board that plan to vote for BHO in November and they need to know the consequences of their action.

 

[rainbowbob]

The Obama campaign threatens legal action against the NRA for exposing the truth, and it's a huge and (should be!) legitimate story here.

I agree...but:

This is a quote from Oleg (who created THR and gets to make the rules...or at least he did until recently): "Political topics go into Activism Discussion forum -- provided they are accompanied by plans of action. Mere griping is no longer appropriate for THR. If you want to discuss an injustice or a political development, propose a remedy!"

I guess the proper action for a moderator would be to move this to "Activism". The proposed remedy to the injustice under discussion is obvious: Vote!

 

[bdickens]

Actually, Obama's legal team "bullying people out of exercising freedom of speech" is absolutely Democrat.

 

[deaconkharma]

here lets make it even more pertinent to 2A

this guy completes the ticket for anti gun stance
"I am the guy who originally wrote the AWB"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9aIb-IplqY

 

[FLA2760]

Here Are The NRA Radio Spots That Had Obama Threaten Legal Action.

I urge you to listen to all of them. TV spots too.


http://www.gunbanobama.com/Default.aspx?NavGuid=09233edf-cf39-461a-8fdd-1a517b49591b





http://www.gunbanobama.com/Default.aspx?NavGuid=430d7335-d158-44f5-aab6-bb7d1226f3fa

 

[The Annoyed Man]

Obama says Heller was wrongly decided... ...in his own words...

 

[FLA2760]

Why all the static about this thread still being open?
I originally posted this over in Activism and the Mods deleted it with the reason that I post it in General gun discussions so here it is. I say a big THANK YOU to the Mods for not closing it. Kudos.

 

[Deanimator]

This is truly Chicago politics on a national scale.

I've said along that that was who he was and what would happen.

The appropriate response to a bully is to call his bluff. We need to confront this thuggery and DARE him to sue us for telling the truth. If he wants to be a gangster, let him be a gangster in the open. Post quotes and links everywhere you see his lies and are able to respond. Those of us who have the Obama fact cards from the Rifleman need to pass them out to anyone who either doesn't know who who's on the fence.

 

[subierex]

Perhaps, in interest of fairness, we should also include Mr. McCain's views on the same gun-related points listed above. I think, however, this would only serve to illustrate the huge differences in the two candidates opinions.

 

[JImbothefiveth]

I see he's not content with taking away just the second amendment.

He believes hunting rifles belong in the wilderness

Great, so I can't keep my 870 just because I live in the suburbs or the city? I could only hunt with buckshot, of course, because he wants to ban 12 gauge slugs.

If you're really wanting to vote for him based on other stuff, please PM me, talking about issues other than guns is forbidden here.

 

[rfurtkamp]

Obama believes in America’s tradition on responsible hunting.

Guess that leaves those of us who have no interest in hunting or hunting rifles clear on what to vote for to keep guns around.

And why should he support guns in America's wilderness? If they're bad in inner-city Chicago, they've got to be bad in a state with 80%+ federal land and forest

 

[ServiceSoon]

We should do our best to show the mods/owner that we can discuss politics responsibly. So that maybe, just maybe in the future...

 

[rfurtkamp]

what are you planning to stock up on before the swearing in on January?

Nothing in particular, I took advantage of the 2004 AWB expiration to make sure I was never in a position again to need or want in that department.

I know they say range ammo only lasts a year or two, but trying to stock up for 8 years is problematic.

No idea who 'they' are, but unless you're using some of the wierd clean stuff, I've shot standard ammo dating back to the early 20th century that still was 100%.

 

[XD-40 Shooter]

If you look at Obama's website, under "Urban Policy", Obama supports making the Assault Weapon ban permanent, to include many more guns than the previous ban did. This alone is enough reason to do everything in my power to ensure his defeat in November, I applaud the NRA for trying to get the word out.

If Obama does win in November, I'm buying a DPMS Sportical in 5.56, with at least 6 30 round magazines, because it may be my last chance at ever getting one.

 

[esmith]

I dont have anything nice to say so therefore i wont say anything at all

Okay, well i will.

Obama holds nothing good for this nation. IF you want proof of just how un-american he is you can look at his recent events. The Obama campaign is angry because McCain's commericals expose the dirty truths of the socialist, which they believe to be lies. As a result they want the government to step in and basically say, "You can't slander (and i use that term loosely, almost out of context, because libs believe anything that sounds remotely bad about their boy is slander) presidential canditates." In which case they can clear the name of obama (note now im not capitilizing his name anymore). The point is they want basic facism to jump in and doctor certain truths to make that puppet on stage pass as someone who isn't.

 

[FLA2760]

I urge THR members to post the links to this on any other gun boards that you frequent. Thanks, Steve

 

[Carl N. Brown]

Rebecca Peters of IANSA complained that the First Amendment allowed the NRA to say practically anything it wanted to in opposition to her plan to "reform regulation of firearms" worldwide -- (ie, ban everything but singleshot hunting long guns with a maximum range under 100 meters).

Pesky thing that 1st Amendment.

Given that foreign billionaire George Soros, Becky's sugar daddy, is heavily invested in everything from VPC, Brady Center and MoveOn.org and supporting Democrats, there is a bleak view for both Second and First Amendment rights if that crowd is victorious.