Official: Army Has Authority to Spy on Americans

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Official: Army Has Authority to Spy on Americans
By Jeff Stein, CQ Staff
“Contrary to popular belief, there is no absolute ban on [military] intelligence components collecting U.S. person information,” the U.S.Army’s top intelligence officer said in a 2001 memo that surfaced Tuesday.

Not only that, military intelligence agencies are permitted to “receive” domestic intelligence information, even though they cannot legally “collect” it,” according to the Nov. 5, 2001, memo issued by Lt. Gen. Robert W. Noonan Jr., the deputy chief of staff for intelligence.

“MI [military intelligence] may receive information from anyone, anytime,” Noonan wrote in the memo, obtained by Secrecy News, a newsletter from the non-profit Federation of American Scientists in Washington.

Defense Department and Army regulations “allow collection about U.S. persons reasonably believed to be engaged, or about to engage, in international terrorist activities,” Noonan continued.

“Remember, merely receiving information does not constitute ‘collection’ under AR [Army Regulation] 381-10; collection entails receiving ‘for use,’ ” he added. (Army Regulation 381-10, “U.S. Army Intelligence Activities,” was reissued on Nov. 22, 2005, but had not previously been disclosed publicly.) “Army intelligence may always receive information, if only to determine its intelligence value and whether it can be collected, retained, or disseminated in accordance with governing policy,”

The distinction between “receiving” and “collecting” seems “to offer considerable leeway for domestic surveillance activities under the existing legal framework,” wrote editor Steven Aftergood in Tuesday’s edition of Secrecy News.

“This in turn makes it harder to understand why the NSA domestic surveillance program departed from previous practice.”

Aftergood was alerted to the existence of the memo by another security expert, John Pike of GlobalSecurity.org, who thought that “there is enough ambiguity in the language that with a bit of creativity in managing the U.S. persons files there would have been not too much trouble” applying existing rules to the warrantless eavesdropping by the National Security Agency.

TALON Reports
The Pentagon’s Counterintelligence Field Activity (CIFA) was launched in 2002 with the mission of “gathering information and conducting activities to protect DoD and the nation against espionage, other intelligence activities, sabotage, assassinations, and terrorist activities,” according to a CIFA brochure. Its TALON program has amassed files on antiwar protesters, according to a Pentagon official.

“More than 5,000 TALON reports” were “received and shared throughout the government” in the program’s first year of operation,” Carol A. Haave, deputy undersecretary of Defense for counterintelligence and security, told the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence in May 2004.

“At that rate, about 12,500 Talon reports would have been filed during the approximately 2½ years the program has existed,” The Washington Post concluded Tuesday.

• Office of the Deputy Chief of Staff for Intelligence: “Collecting Information on U.S. Persons” (pdf)

• Edition of AR 381-10 dated July 1, 1984 (in effect until Dec. 22, 2005) (pdf)

Jeff Stein can be reached at [email protected].
 
Nothing new here.

During the 1960's the US Army sent undercover military policemen to colleges to spy on 'radicals.'
 
Just keep telling yourself "This is America. Nothing bad could happen here. We are the freest country in the world, and anyone who says otherwise is a dirty commie mutant traitor. If we have to give up a few antiquated "rights", why, that's a small price to pay to feel safe. Besides, they're only doing it in our best interest.
 
Goes back even further.

I tend to think J. Edgar Hoover may have been the most powerful man (ahem) of the 20th century.
 
This doesn't bother me as much as the NSA not getting FISA warrants, since the military cannot legally serve a police function. Should the Posse Comitatus Act be repealed, however, and the scenario changes dramatically. But at that point I think we will have gone over the edge.
 
Apparently "The Government" will do whatever it wants to. As Henry Kissinger once said, "The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a while longer."

Great attitude for a "public servant" to have.:barf:
 
progunner1957 said:
Apparently "The Government" will do whatever it wants to. As Henry Kissinger once said, "The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a while longer."

Great attitude for a "public servant" to have.:barf:

It's one of the reasons why I mourn the end of citizen involvement. We have become a nation of passive consumers of brand names. We adopt opinions rather than developing them and have a collective attention span like a shrew with ADD. Democracy only works if the People take responsibility for ensuring that the government serves its needs.

Henry Kissinger? Ever since Pol Pot died he's the biggest unhanged war criminal breathing the free air. Cyprus, Chile, Timor, Cambodia. The amount of blood on that man's hands is incalculable.
 
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