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Oh no...Switzerland...

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Maybe if Hitler had not left them alone the new generations would not be so quick to give up their rights.
 
That is nothing. I live a country that the congress voted near unanimously to do away with about half of the inalienable rights of men and the people did not even raise a bleat. The Swiss just happen to be doing it in reverse order.
 
I think you have it backwards

Maybe if Hitler had not left them alone the new generations would not be so quick to give up their rights.
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Actually, it was the nations Hitler didn't leave alone that rapidly gave up their firearms rights. In fact those that were invaded were normally the first to lose those rights.

I guess their .gov saw how effective disarmament was in controlling the masses. England, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, and the USA have - along with Switzerland - taken 50 plus years to make some progress :banghead: in convincing the general population that gun-control is good for them.
 
"Every year about 300 people die from army-issue guns in Switzerland. The majority of cases are suicides, but there are also family tragedies," he told swissinfo.
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Hmmm .. 300 a year and they are getting their panties in a knot. Guess they don't want to hit those 200,000 a year numbers we have that are gun inflicted :scrutiny: /sarcasm

On the other hand, why are the military people saying they don't want the guns at home? That seems wierd.
 
1) It may be the clumsiness of translation, but 'suicides or faimily tragedies' sounds odd to me... they could mean 'family mass-murders'... or their stats could be poorly understood, deliberately misleading r both. Which leads me to
2) 2/3 of Swiss? Not from what I understand it. Teh fact that that number of the population own guns is pretty significant IMO
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"Keeping a gun at home is a reminder of the Cold War, and is not necessary for instruction or security purposes."
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Hmm how about this guy reads up on a little basic history of his own country? The cold War was the latter half of the 20th century. The tradition started in the 19th... Perhaps a little language barrier problem, but 'reminder'? Like the remaining sections of the Berlin Wall? Or the checkpoint Charlie museum? Perhaps in the way that Auswitz is a reminder of the Holocaust; it is something which reminds us of what happened in the past and the words 'never again'; never again will that number of innocent pepel be murdered, and never again will we allow ourselves to come that close to nuclear war. And besides, it IS about security and training; home defense and familiarity.

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"The need for instruction so that people can train. But we know that no one is doing it seriously apart from during annual obligatory shooting practice. Most don't shoot with their guns, they just store them somewhere. I'm sure in a few years there will be no more guns at home and things will change."
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Nobody takes it seriously? Really? Or is it just that that soldier does not take it seriously and neads a short, sharp lesson in Swiss civil duties and the importance of training?

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"In Switzerland there was an old saying: 'A man who can't defend himself and his family with a weapon has no honour.' This tradition still exists in certain circles," said Lang. "And they understand an attack on this tradition as an attack on the army itself."
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This made me angry. It is a GOOD saying. What would make it better is if it were "A person who cannot defend themselves, their family and their country with a weapon has no honour." This also implies that those who would have the masses disarmed have no honour -- as they do not.
 
Matt, you beat me to it. Florian Emonet is an idiot. The gun culture saved their butts in WWII, long before Churchill's "Iron Curtain" speech.

--Len.
 
Another romantic myth apparently shattered.

It would appear to be true that most of the reservists do nothing but their annual obligatory stuff. Eventhough I highly distrust press reports, human nature is pretty much the same everywhere.

Given 50! rounds of ammo, that probably has to be accounted for, and is likely not for training purposes, my bet is that most will not train at their own expense.

And that would be one of the drivers for the "2 out of 3" wanting to get rid of the hassle of storing the weapon they never use.

Apparently, the Swiss are "harmonizing" with the nihilistic EU, and in doing so, greasing the skids to being just another anonymous nanny state that cannot defend itself.
 
"Every year about 300 people die from army-issue guns in Switzerland. The majority of cases are suicides, but there are also family tragedies,"
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Isn't 300 like half the population of Switzerland? And that's not counting other crimes. Well, those 300 can join the 18,000 American children in heaven who die each year of accidental gun-related deaths.
 
On a lighter side of the issue, there is a photo gallery on the upper right of the swissinfo page, the one labeled "On target".

This is my favorite:

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