bangswitch
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Love the old Savage doubles. I had a 311, traded for a Fox B and then got a couple more to keep it company. Top is a Fox B 12 gauge made in 1973, middle is a Fox B 16 gauge made in 1962, and bottom is a Fox B 20 gauge made in 1950.
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Love the old Savage doubles. I had a 311, traded for a Fox B and then got a couple more to keep it company. Top is a Fox B 12 gauge made in 1973, middle is a Fox B 16 gauge made in 1962, and bottom is a Fox B 20 gauge made in 1950.
I'm a big fan of the model 10....Dad had one prior to his enlistment in Uncle Sam's Army. During the time he was away, grand dad shortened the barrel and stock to fit himself and made a grouse gun....It was later passed down to me...Now, the inside diameter of the barrel is all but equal to the outside diameter...It still holds a lot of value, in memories only.
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There is a double in the good safe, but I am reluctant to shoot it much.
Heirloom from wife's family. Bought new by her Great-granddad used to hunt by him, her Grand dad, and her dad. I under stand her dad also shot skeet with it until he got into over-unders in the 1960's.
Locks up like a bank vault. Only thing is at some point someone thought it needed a rubber butt pad. Still pretty though. I am thinking perhaps a round of trap for each of the kids just so they can shoot it.....me too.
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Heirloom from wife's family. Bought new by her Great-granddad used to hunt by him, her Grand dad, and her dad. I under stand her dad also shot skeet with it until he got into over-unders in the 1960's.
Locks up like a bank vault. Only thing is at some point someone thought it needed a rubber butt pad. Still pretty though. I am thinking perhaps a round of trap for each of the kids just so they can shoot it.....me too.
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Just reading my own post and no where does it say what it is. LC Smith. 12ga Field grade.
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kBob
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Pete,
That Parker looks like it must be champing at the bit for another fall bird season.
Thanks for sharing.
The Florida Museum of natural history had a set of Parkers in various gauges and grade on display at the front desk way back when they were on Main Campus at UF. I used to dream about the 20.
They also had some Civil war era guns on the wall in one place and a Krag and Mauser near by and in glass topped drawers in their object gallery. They had a nice Johnson horse pistol there a Mk II webley and a pin fire of about 7mm they had mislabeled.
Unfortunately the Museum was "improved" when it moved out on the fringes of campus and much of the non "natural" stuff was removed. In the last year or so they have gotten weird with some of the displays of native American pre Columbian stuff.....they put tops on the female maniquins which for a decade had been topless. The only think firearm-ish today is the image of early US military flintlock pistol.
It grieves me to think of those lobby Parkers siting in some dark climate controlled box unseen by anyone.......may be I should offer to take them on a field trip next fall!
Hmmm, I wonder if they might be talked into a guns of the FMNH temporary exhibt this fall?
-kBob
That Parker looks like it must be champing at the bit for another fall bird season.
Thanks for sharing.
The Florida Museum of natural history had a set of Parkers in various gauges and grade on display at the front desk way back when they were on Main Campus at UF. I used to dream about the 20.
They also had some Civil war era guns on the wall in one place and a Krag and Mauser near by and in glass topped drawers in their object gallery. They had a nice Johnson horse pistol there a Mk II webley and a pin fire of about 7mm they had mislabeled.
Unfortunately the Museum was "improved" when it moved out on the fringes of campus and much of the non "natural" stuff was removed. In the last year or so they have gotten weird with some of the displays of native American pre Columbian stuff.....they put tops on the female maniquins which for a decade had been topless. The only think firearm-ish today is the image of early US military flintlock pistol.
It grieves me to think of those lobby Parkers siting in some dark climate controlled box unseen by anyone.......may be I should offer to take them on a field trip next fall!
Hmmm, I wonder if they might be talked into a guns of the FMNH temporary exhibt this fall?
-kBob
It certainly looks like an L.C. Smith, but Field grades don't have engraving or checkering. Hard to tell from the small pic, but I'd guess Ideal grade.
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Milkmaster
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Been a month now..Don't let this thread die! 
This is a Winchester 1912 made in 1914 (first year for the 12ga.) It was also my first gun, given to me by an old fellow in town who got it from another old fellow in town whose father was the original owner. No finish anywhere after 100 years of shooting and loose as a goose. I replaced the original rotted recoil pad with a grind-to-fit model from the '60s.
I actually would never have any use for this thing in my life, so I sold it to a very appreciative local buyer and bought myself a more suitable vintage shotgun for a quarter of the price. I assume he's doing it more justice than I could have.
I actually would never have any use for this thing in my life, so I sold it to a very appreciative local buyer and bought myself a more suitable vintage shotgun for a quarter of the price. I assume he's doing it more justice than I could have.
Deltaboy1984
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My 1982 870 in 12 gauge, A model 11 Sportsman in sweet 16 and a Ithaca super single in 410.
Ash
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The oldest shotgun I shoot is a 1940's Savage 720. No photos, but it's in great shape - no rust and bluing is still good. I use it for rabbits and armadillos in the same vein as my grandfather did his Remington Model 11. In rabbit hunting, the old timers I go with consider that 720 a fairly new shotgun. They show up in a Ford Taurus pulling a beat-up home-made trailer with the beagles inside. The fellas don't care what anyone else thinks of their rig and the dogs just want to chase rabbits.
My newest shotgun is a single-tang Mossberg 500 that is perhaps 45-50 years old. It sports a replacement barrel with removable chokes and gets used for ducks/geese and quail hunting.
Once, I showed up quail hunting with the full choke still in for bismuth shot for geese. I couldn't hit a thing and I thought I was just off...way off...until I managed to get one and it literally disentegrated into a cloud of feathers. I realized it was still choked for geese. On that hunt, I had to wait until everyone else got their shot off and the quail were far enough away. I got called "sweeper" on that hunt because I could get those that were further away that everyone else missed.
My newest shotgun is a single-tang Mossberg 500 that is perhaps 45-50 years old. It sports a replacement barrel with removable chokes and gets used for ducks/geese and quail hunting.
Once, I showed up quail hunting with the full choke still in for bismuth shot for geese. I couldn't hit a thing and I thought I was just off...way off...until I managed to get one and it literally disentegrated into a cloud of feathers. I realized it was still choked for geese. On that hunt, I had to wait until everyone else got their shot off and the quail were far enough away. I got called "sweeper" on that hunt because I could get those that were further away that everyone else missed.
C.R.
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Alright, Im in . I have a couple of 12 Gauge side by side shotguns that were my Grandfathers. The realy old one is a Parker I beleive,it has a patent date of 1873 I want to say,dimascus steel barrels with the leather "leg of mutton case" the old girl has brought home many a meal,and the last time Grandpa used it was when dogs got into his flock of sheep and killed or mauled almost half of them. He got some blowback from the old scattergun in the face ,so his childeren all got togher and bought him a new sears 12 Gauge Side by side Spanish made ( A NICE Gun ) He has been gone since 1980 I an just the caretaker .
Went looking for a nice used Wingmaster a few years ago. Ended up with a 1956 -- plain stock, corncob forend, 30-in full choke. Plain-jane gold ol' WM and it did not look like it had ever been fired...
BUT, the action was gritty to beat all and there was white powder all over the gun. Fingerpint powder! If guns could talk...
So, stripped it down to the receiver and gave everything a thorough wash. With the grit gone, it was like new -- perhaps a generation of shooting away from getting slick on its own, so I helped it along a bit with a few tweaks and it is a very sweet WM.
And it's twin is here as well, with a 18" barrel used in Defensive Shotgun matches.
BUT, the action was gritty to beat all and there was white powder all over the gun. Fingerpint powder! If guns could talk...
So, stripped it down to the receiver and gave everything a thorough wash. With the grit gone, it was like new -- perhaps a generation of shooting away from getting slick on its own, so I helped it along a bit with a few tweaks and it is a very sweet WM.
And it's twin is here as well, with a 18" barrel used in Defensive Shotgun matches.
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1938 Mod 12 with damaged barrel cut to 22" w/new bead. Picked it up at a flea market for 275. $45. for the barrel work. Seemed to be shot very little and put away busted. Perfect for what I wanted it for. If the original barrel was intact, I wouldn't be able to afford it. I also have a newer M12, 1949, in very good condition.
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trail twister
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I don't have any shot guns [passed down from my grand father. Moms dad was strictly a farmer and horse man and my dads father was blind. Dad some time in the late 40's bought a Stevens single shot 16ga. with a plastic stock even way back then. When I was 8/9 dad bought a wore out held together with tape Ivers Johnson 410 single shot for me to use around the farm for a few years.
In 1961 my folks bought me a used Western field 16ga with a poly choke. I used it till 1970 when it started slam firing during a duck hunt. IO still have it and some day I should set down and see if I can repair it.
I replaced that western field with a Mossberg 500 pump, I couldn't hit a thing with it so was happy when it broke in a week and had to be sent back to be repaired. Right at the start of hunting season. I bought a Ithaca model 37 12ga. feather lite to replace it. When the mossy finally came back I gave it to my brother just home from a stint in the service.
I have put several box car loads of shells thru that Ithaca still works fine and still try to take it out some every hinting season. I bought one in 20ga for my dad for his 60th birthday. He loved that shot gun and passed it down to me before he passed at 89.
I have a bunch of shot guns not mostly OU's Beretta silver snipe in 20 & 12ga. a SKB with hasting chokes my clays gun.
Al
In 1961 my folks bought me a used Western field 16ga with a poly choke. I used it till 1970 when it started slam firing during a duck hunt. IO still have it and some day I should set down and see if I can repair it.
I replaced that western field with a Mossberg 500 pump, I couldn't hit a thing with it so was happy when it broke in a week and had to be sent back to be repaired. Right at the start of hunting season. I bought a Ithaca model 37 12ga. feather lite to replace it. When the mossy finally came back I gave it to my brother just home from a stint in the service.
I have put several box car loads of shells thru that Ithaca still works fine and still try to take it out some every hinting season. I bought one in 20ga for my dad for his 60th birthday. He loved that shot gun and passed it down to me before he passed at 89.
I have a bunch of shot guns not mostly OU's Beretta silver snipe in 20 & 12ga. a SKB with hasting chokes my clays gun.
Al
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I bought this H&R Model 1900 12 gauge from a widow last year. Her late husband had started to remove a century's worth of crud from the outside of the barrel, apparently using sandpaper or a coarse Scotchbrite pad.
I used fine steel wool and oil to remove the surface rust, and a different piece of steel wool with lacquer thinner to scrub all the dirt, grease, and other crud off the wood. It came out pretty good, IMO.
None of the writing on the receiver was visible when I got the gun.
Last week, I bought a gently used Euroarms Magnum Cape Gun 12 gauge percussion shotgun.
i'm really looking forward to hunting with the smokepole this fall.
I used fine steel wool and oil to remove the surface rust, and a different piece of steel wool with lacquer thinner to scrub all the dirt, grease, and other crud off the wood. It came out pretty good, IMO.
None of the writing on the receiver was visible when I got the gun.
Last week, I bought a gently used Euroarms Magnum Cape Gun 12 gauge percussion shotgun.
i'm really looking forward to hunting with the smokepole this fall.
krimmie
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This model 12 in 16 gauge was manufactured in the 30's. I take it out once in a while for dove, and in this case, early teal season.
farscott
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A few years ago, I found a sad looking 12-gauge Wingmaster with a twenty-six inch ventilated barrel at my LGS. At that time, my rule was to buy every decent Wingmaster that I could find for less than $300 OTD. So I did even though the metal showed patina and the stock looked like it had seen better days as the action was sound. When I tore the gun down, I found a few issues, including a missing magazine cap spring retainer, a worn-out magazine spring, and this.
Yup, the stock was cracked at the wrist, and the wood was pretty oil soaked there. I assume that is why the gun ended up at the LGS. So it needed a new stock, and I actually found a buyer for the cracked original stock and fleur de lis forearm. I decided to make an 870P gun out of it as I had (still have) an abundance of sporting Wingmasters in good shape. So I found a set of walnut police stocks, stained the wood as best I could, added a new recoil pad, cut the barrel back to 18.75", cold blued the muzzle, and installed a new brass bead. It now looks like this.
With the "cylinder choke" from the barrel, it actually shoots "improved cylinder" patterns with harder shot and cylinder patterns with softer shot.
Best part is my total outlay was less than $400. It could have been less if I did not opt for the Remington 870P wood as that ran almost $100 once stained and the pad added. I have considered Parkerizing the metal as the finish is rough. The gun now does HD duty.
Yup, the stock was cracked at the wrist, and the wood was pretty oil soaked there. I assume that is why the gun ended up at the LGS. So it needed a new stock, and I actually found a buyer for the cracked original stock and fleur de lis forearm. I decided to make an 870P gun out of it as I had (still have) an abundance of sporting Wingmasters in good shape. So I found a set of walnut police stocks, stained the wood as best I could, added a new recoil pad, cut the barrel back to 18.75", cold blued the muzzle, and installed a new brass bead. It now looks like this.
With the "cylinder choke" from the barrel, it actually shoots "improved cylinder" patterns with harder shot and cylinder patterns with softer shot.
Best part is my total outlay was less than $400. It could have been less if I did not opt for the Remington 870P wood as that ran almost $100 once stained and the pad added. I have considered Parkerizing the metal as the finish is rough. The gun now does HD duty.
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