OMAHA: Girl's Leg Shattered By Round From AK-47
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Cosmoline
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What a load of hogwash. "Accidentally" shooting into an occupied building? No charges?!
BobbyQuickdraw
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Unfortunately accidents happen with everything. If he was showing an ax and dropped it on her foot, should be sent to jail? The kid did something idiotic. He probably feels absolutely terrible. The book should not be slammed on him any harder than another accident. If he had spilled scalding coffee on her, would it be assault? No.
Its an accident. No Mens Rea, no Crime. Period. If he was prosecuted for being reckless, or something along those lines, fine.
I feel bad for the girl, not only did she got shot, but her mother seems to be sadly uninformed about firearms.
And many guns and other objects could inflict that damage. A direct impact on bone is devestating to the bone, whether its a rifle round or a handgun round or a log or another bone.
Its an accident. No Mens Rea, no Crime. Period. If he was prosecuted for being reckless, or something along those lines, fine.
I feel bad for the girl, not only did she got shot, but her mother seems to be sadly uninformed about firearms.
And many guns and other objects could inflict that damage. A direct impact on bone is devestating to the bone, whether its a rifle round or a handgun round or a log or another bone.
Cmdr. Gravez0r
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Sounds like the police screwed this one up--could it have struck another person and yet we're not hearing about 2 people being hit with teh evil AK in the headline?
Funderb
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gee, can't she dodge bullets matrix style.
loaded firearm, other people in front, in a house.
stupid mother******.
IMHO he should be shot in the leg on accident.
loaded firearm, other people in front, in a house.
stupid mother******.
IMHO he should be shot in the leg on accident.
3/325
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An "accident" is something unforseeable, like black ice on the road or circumstances beyond your control.
Let's not confuse "accident" with "unintentional", "negligence", "carelessness", or "stupidity".
Let's not confuse "accident" with "unintentional", "negligence", "carelessness", or "stupidity".
Bubbles
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Teenagers at a party in the evening, no parents at home... how much do you want to bet alcohol was involved?
hankdatank1362
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Wasn't that the one where the guy shot the random girl with a bolt-action .243?
Assault rifle my a**.
-C4-
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I'd say some sort of negligence charge or something. It's obvious that the guy wasn't intending to shoot the girl so the moms request for an assault charge is a little off base.
And +1 to BobbyQuickdraw. The girls mother is highly misinformed. If her daughter was hurt in a car accident would she be calling for a ban on cars?
And +1 to BobbyQuickdraw. The girls mother is highly misinformed. If her daughter was hurt in a car accident would she be calling for a ban on cars?
I'm sure others must have noticed, it was semi auto, thus not an AK, and not an assault rifle. Really sounds like the reporters for KETV need to gain an education before they are allowed to speak to the public.
Sad that the inanimate rifle is being blamed for the actions of the shooter.
Personal accountability, where is it today.
Besides the story given by her mother does not add up.
Just my opinion on the matter.
Sad that the inanimate rifle is being blamed for the actions of the shooter.
Personal accountability, where is it today.
Besides the story given by her mother does not add up.
Just my opinion on the matter.
RedLion
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Eye for an Eye. That would end a lot of these stupid gun 'accidents'.
If he had been practicing the basic rules of gun handling like muzzle control and keep it unloaded, he would have been fine until his dad or brother came home and found him playing with their gun.
If he had been practicing the basic rules of gun handling like muzzle control and keep it unloaded, he would have been fine until his dad or brother came home and found him playing with their gun.
spencerhut
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Stupid can be fixed, at least this type of stupid can be, it's called parenting. I used to get the crap knocked out of me for -any- careless gun handling. Think I learned? Uh, yeah I did. I'm a four rules knowing fool. Anyone who isn't, shouldn't be allowed to touch a gun. At all.
Learn the four rules first. Then and only then should you learn to actually operate the deadly weapon. There is no reason for any other method of operation/teaching.
Respect the weapon, it will kill you if you do not.
Learn the four rules first. Then and only then should you learn to actually operate the deadly weapon. There is no reason for any other method of operation/teaching.
Respect the weapon, it will kill you if you do not.
THe Dove
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She had gun powder on her jeans!? But the bullet hit anaother person then went through a couch then hit her in the leg and she had gun powder on her jeans??? This doesn't make sense to me?
The Dove
She had gun powder on her jeans!? But the bullet hit anaother person then went through a couch then hit her in the leg and she had gun powder on her jeans??? This doesn't make sense to me?
The Dove
ArfinGreebly
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Accident
It doesn't matter what other factors led to the event.
Stupidity leads to accidents every stinking day. Carelessness leads to accidents every single day. Forgetfulness leads to accidents. Every day. If the event was unintended, it was an accident.
It's only not an accident when it's intended.
The kid with the loaded gun is an idiot. Or untrained. Or ignorant. Or careless. Or reckless. And still, unless he meant to fire the rifle the event is an accident.
"Hey, hold my beer and watch this!" That's still an accident.
Can you recklessly endanger someone and still have an accident? Well, sure. Traffic courts are full of that.
The fact that you were drunk, not paying attention, showing off, untrained, ignorant, stupid, whatever, does not change the accidental nature of the event.
Actually, those contributing factors just make it more likely that you will have an accident.
And it will still be an accident.
An accident is an unintended event.
It doesn't matter what other factors led to the event.
Stupidity leads to accidents every stinking day. Carelessness leads to accidents every single day. Forgetfulness leads to accidents. Every day. If the event was unintended, it was an accident.
It's only not an accident when it's intended.
The kid with the loaded gun is an idiot. Or untrained. Or ignorant. Or careless. Or reckless. And still, unless he meant to fire the rifle the event is an accident.
"Hey, hold my beer and watch this!" That's still an accident.
Can you recklessly endanger someone and still have an accident? Well, sure. Traffic courts are full of that.
The fact that you were drunk, not paying attention, showing off, untrained, ignorant, stupid, whatever, does not change the accidental nature of the event.
Actually, those contributing factors just make it more likely that you will have an accident.
And it will still be an accident.
TEDDY
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two people in this post noticed the discrepency in the story.another person was shot and powder on jeans.also the pop/pop.was it a ak/sks rd or a 22.seem it should have been louder.the story smells.multiple rds??
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two people in this post noticed the discrepency in the story.another person was shot and powder on jeans.also the pop/pop.was it a ak/sks rd or a 22.seem it should have been louder.the story smells.multiple rds??
:banghead:jaholder1971
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Okay, let's be fair with the criminal charges...
Kid wih Gun - Unlawful discharge of a a firearm in City limits, whatever criminal battery charge can be applied for wreckless conduct.
Mom of daughter - Child endangerment for allowing her minor daughter to attend parties with strange 18 year old men with firearms who cannot seem to prevent them from going BANG.
Whaddaya say?
Kid wih Gun - Unlawful discharge of a a firearm in City limits, whatever criminal battery charge can be applied for wreckless conduct.
Mom of daughter - Child endangerment for allowing her minor daughter to attend parties with strange 18 year old men with firearms who cannot seem to prevent them from going BANG.
Whaddaya say?
Kipling79
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Yeah, you guys are right. There are a lot of flaws here.
If She was close enough to get powder burns, she would not have heard a "zing"... it would have been one big "boom".
If she was far enough away to distinguish between zings and the report of the rifle, she wouldnt have had powder burns.
But, this was probably an intense situation.. maybe the girl was a little disoriented about the details. Or, maybe the teens are covering something up, or maybe the reporter is spinning.
If She was close enough to get powder burns, she would not have heard a "zing"... it would have been one big "boom".
If she was far enough away to distinguish between zings and the report of the rifle, she wouldnt have had powder burns.
But, this was probably an intense situation.. maybe the girl was a little disoriented about the details. Or, maybe the teens are covering something up, or maybe the reporter is spinning.
catfish101
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I think the gunpowder/jean remark should have been blood the girl saw.
Maybe this was one of those magic bullit Kennedy things again. Everybody believes that story
Hope she ends up ok and the idiot gets enough to get the message and ends up ok too.
Maybe this was one of those magic bullit Kennedy things again. Everybody believes that story
Hope she ends up ok and the idiot gets enough to get the message and ends up ok too.
yongxingfreesty
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poor girl, must be tough for her. that guy shoulda been more careful. violated all 4 rules.
Big Boomer
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1st how about laws of the house? 4 Rules? Don't play with loaded guns? Don't play with guns period?
Lock up the parent for allowing it to happen that's a great law!
As far as the second one, I'll bet the local LE agencies doughnut money that he's already been through the system. Enforce the existing laws.
3/325
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What bugs me the most is that the word "accident" conjures up images of someone who was blindsided by something no one would have expected. It might not be the very definition of the word, but I think it's a fairly strong connotation.
ArfinGreebly
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Unexpected
All of this was predicted.
Just not by Bobby.
It's still an accident.
It doesn't matter how many other people could have predicted it, if the guy throwing gasoline on his barbecue doesn't predict it, that will still be an accident.
Surely, you've told someone, "dude, don't do that . . ." and had them do it anyway. You predicted the bad outcome, and they just couldn't see it.
Unintended and not predicted by the perpetrator.
Still an accident.
Parents, seeing their kid doing "stupid kid tricks #206" say, "Bobby, that's a good way to hurt yourself falling off the bike." And Bobby goes ahead anyway. And falls. And busts the bike. And cuts his knee and his head. And rips his clothes.
All of this was predicted.
Just not by Bobby.
It's still an accident.
It doesn't matter how many other people could have predicted it, if the guy throwing gasoline on his barbecue doesn't predict it, that will still be an accident.
Surely, you've told someone, "dude, don't do that . . ." and had them do it anyway. You predicted the bad outcome, and they just couldn't see it.
Unintended and not predicted by the perpetrator.
Still an accident.
woodybrighton
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he's an idiot and if not criminal deserves to do normal safety procedures till he passes out from lack of sleep then do them some more
it just worries me (not that much cause there a long way away from me)
about some people who can buy a firearm but have absolutely no clue what there doing with it.
it just worries me (not that much cause there a long way away from me
)about some people who can buy a firearm but have absolutely no clue what there doing with it.
S&WKING
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man omaha is getting bad i live about 30 miles from there and the Westroads shooting then this and about the same time this kid from south dakota just went out and shot a girl waitng in a drive threw and he had no clue who she was but did it anyways
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