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I just read a story from the Ottawa Citizen online in an article dated September 27, 2011, that I find very disturbing.

The article states that 19,000 Hi Powers used by the Canadian armed forces are being replaced by a new pistol. At the time of the article there had not been a decision as to what new pistol would replace the HP. That's not the disturbing part.

The Canadian PTB have decided not to sell them, but to smelt them. 19,000 Inglis Hi Powers put to death out of shear stupidity. They're not even allowing the possibility of finding homes for them. How PC.

Oh, the humanity! :barf::( I may never buy another Canadian beer again. :fire:
 
Yea, that's too bad. Pretty silly. Probably get like $450-500 each for them.
I had one with the tangent sight.. never really liked it.
 
Obviously government has more money than it knows what to do with.
 
The Canadian government would be better served if they packed up the Hi Powers in cosmoline and put them in storage. They would come in handy during the next war. There is always a shortage of small arms during a major war.
 
Never fear, Cactus Jack! There are far better beers than the Canadian imports! I'm partial to the German ones, myself.

Of course it's ridiculous for them not to sell the used guns to their own citizens. ;)
 
Canada is good for America....it shows us how bad it can be here if the liberals win.
 
The US has done a lot worse. They drug most of the left-overPT boats to the middle of the ocean and burned them. Until someone disobeyed orders, the US Army was going to kill all their horses because they were deemed obsolete.

Basically the governments don't think of the revenue they could generate by selling off their unused equipment or the citizens that might actually have a use for "obsolete" things.

The US has gotten a little better at least (except for firearms). Do a search for government liquidation and there's a cool auction site that sells everything from ammo cans and pouches to old warship hulls.
 
That's a shame.
I'd like to have one of those Hueys that got pushed overboard at the end of 'Nam.
Except for the whole saltwater damage thing.
As far as beer goes, I tried a Czech beer once that was really good.
 
The people who PAID for them (in Canada - Subjects, in the US - Citizens) should have first rights to these handguns. They do NOT belong to the government, they belong to those that paid for them.

Dan
 
Hoofan, I love Canadian Bacon. Great movie. :D I also love the movie Strange Brew. Another great Canadian 80's movie.

Anyway, I just wish that the Canadian Government would at least let us Americans have at them. 19,000 Hi Powers x $500 = $9.5 million. I can't believe that the Canadian Gov. couldn't use $9.5 million. Even at $400 they could still bring in $7.6 million. It just boggles the mind. :confused:
 
The Canadian government would be better served if they packed up the Hi Powers in cosmoline and put them in storage. They would come in handy during the next war. There is always a shortage of small arms during a major war.
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I think a lot of them are getting pretty worn out but I agree with you put the good ones away for a rainy day! They should have done that with the old FAL's as well......
 
I don't see a problem. They own the guns and so have the right to do with them as they please.

Gotta love the irony. We can't stand it when others seem to think they know better what we should do with OUR guns, but we have no problem knowing what others should do with theirs.
 
The PT Boats were all basically worn out. Most had worm-eaten hulls and were largely good only for scrap. When they were built, they were not intended to last. At the time, there was a giant glut in everything in the Pacific, and trying to determine which PT boat was not about to fall apart (which, by the way, would have had no part in the post war navy) or trying to get them back to the US to salvage parts from them would have been more trouble than it was worth.

However, under Clinton, the US destroyed quite a few 1911's, and that was a sin. As to what they should do with them, there is no irony. We don't want them to destroy them. We have not decided to ban them from destroying them. We have not forced our way across the border to demand those pistols be sold to us. We lament both the waste as well as the political thought behind it. it is an act that swipes at out sensibilities. They can certainly do what they want. We can certainly say that is stupid. After all, its not like the anti's are demanding we keep our guns and we insist on destroying ours. It is vice-versa.

The irony would be for us to demand that anti's be forced to carry arms, be forced to own them and care for them.
 
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I don't see a problem. They own the guns and so have the right to do with them as they please.

Gotta love the irony. We can't stand it when others seem to think they know better what we should do with OUR guns, but we have no problem knowing what others should do with theirs.
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+1

Steel is a REALLY hot commodity right now.
 
Cactus Jack Arizona said:
The Canadian PTB have decided not to sell them, but to smelt them. 19,000 Inglis Hi Powers put to death out of shear stupidity.
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Not stupid. The .gov does not want the law abiding citizenry to have guns, period.

I tell this to people here all the time when they gripe about "stupid" gun laws. Yee, Feinstein et al are accomplishing their own agenda, a disarmed populace, very efficiently. They fly around in Gulfstream Vs and we get to pay for it. Who is stupid here?:banghead:
 
So, steel prices are really up. You recon they'll get $100-$200 per pound for these pistols?

No, they won't. If they sell the pistols on the market, they'll get a drop in any fiscal bucket, but it will be a vastly larger drop in the bucket than raw steel price. What is the salvage/bulk metal value of these pistols?
 
I have become accustomed to being disappointed with my governments choices concerning firearms.
That said, in Canada, especially the p.c. east, there is a huge disconnect between the sentiment relating to long arms and hand guns.
You see, our country's voting population is concentrated in only a few large urban (eastern) areas. These areas have little exposure to firearms for sporting use, as is common in many large modern cities. Their limited exposure usually comes from the news when a handgun was used in a crime. (Just for the record, statistics in Canada show that legally owned handguns are virtually never used by their owner in a crime)
Unfortunately, a couple of large cities comprise nearly half of all the voters.
Besides handguns, there exists a misunderstanding about what many call "assault rifles". Anything with a militaristic background immediately falls into the "weapons" category in the court of public opinion.

p.s. I can agree with you about how disappointing this decision is, but under no circumstances will I agree that our beer is anything less than the best!:) Try an ice cold Great Western Pilsner after a day of shooting geese!
 
Hmmm....

At the end of WWII an Uncle was in a p51 squadron as a mechanic. They were chosen as a test unit for all the captured German fighters. Main thing learned was that when they let Germans with a begillian hours of combat flying fly any fighter against Americans with even hundreds of combat hours in any fighter the Germans "won". At any rate every mechanic took the opertunity to equip himself with a really great set of tools and in some cases machinery (he had a little starter motor which sounded suspiciously like a wankle in his discription in 1945)

At any rate when the tests were all over they pushed all the german aircraft to the middle of the field with bull dozers and burned the scrap befor burying it in trenches. Then before they were shipped home the troops were all inspected and any captured tools and machinery taken away and distroyed (his little motor got torched in half)

His leaders explained that if all that surplus was allowed to be sold or just taken home by troops that it would hurt the efforts of business back home to build and SELL new equipment.....so destroying surplus was "good" for the economy as it meant more post war jobs.

Too bad there is not someway CMP could not get hands on these guns. Hmm I wonder if Canada has any US property Marked Savage Lee Enfields gotten on Lend Lease.....or maybe they did and never offered them back as required before getting rid of them.

-kBob
 
At the end of WWII an Uncle was in a p51 squadron as a mechanic. They were chosen as a test unit for all the captured German fighters. Main thing learned was that when they let Germans with a begillian hours of combat flying fly any fighter against Americans with even hundreds of combat hours in any fighter the Germans "won".
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The Germans were much more experienced as you say, and flew until they were killed, captured or the war ended. They were better pilots in general, but we had much more superior numbers just like the M4 Shermans.

At any rate when the tests were all over they pushed all the german aircraft to the middle of the field with bull dozers and burned the scrap befor burying it in trenches.
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That's why there are so few BF-109's and FW-190's flying today. It is ashame.

I do think the trend over the last decades in the destruction of surplus guns is more in the name of gun contol than creating jobs.
 
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